Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Wildweasel74]

Building New schools can be in the pipeline  10-12 yrs, the initial inflation rate which be based on the baseline over the yrs. Few things have greatly changed that. Leaving the EU. Covid, Aluminium went up 30+% ,Timber similar in one year. All building materials increased by nearly 20+%. So if u project was initially £100 Million, put 30% on average for materials, with a annual minimum 3/5% increase every year. Labour rates way up on 10yrs ago. You get the picture very quick how projects have spiralled our of control in recent years.I think the M5 could be scary once started.

[Evil Genius]

You can generate more revenue if you offer a better experience to the more discernible clientele rather than standing in a field, with gutters to the eyeballs.

Doesn't hold Glastonbury back though

Actually I'm not sure that holds true. Spurs new stadium has a retractable grass pitch for soccer, which when withdrawn reveals an artificial pitch underneath for NFL etc.

The artificial pitch is also used to stage huge concerts eg Guns'n'Roses, Red Hot Chillies, Beyonce (5 nights sold out).

Although the executive boxes with hospitality etc can charge eye-watering prices, regular seats in the stands actually cost less than on-pitch places. In fact, if you want to get early entry (eg more than 2 hours before concert starts), you actually have to pay more than for entry soon before the start!

I assume this is because the earlier you arrive, the closer you can get to the stage.

(This also raises the question of whether even occasional concerts at Casement during the summer wouldn't seriously harm the playing surface?)

[Evil Genius]

While also questioning what would amount to an unfair subsidy for one venue over those other venues, whether privately or Council operated

I'm not sure how you could have an unfair subsidy in comparison to a Council owned venue which is funded through local taxes. Concerts held at these venues are perhaps more likely to have a competitive advantage as local authorities can argue that the wider economic benefits of an event mean the use of a venue is viable when a private operator may not.
Casement was not built because NI doesn't work for which everyone is too blame.

I agree that Council owned/operated venues, subsidised by ratepayers/taxpayers funding, could be said to constitute an unfair advantage over privately owned venues.

But my point was that public funding for Casement would make the situation even more unfair or anti-competitive, made worse by the fact that the funding is intended for sporting use, not concerts.

[armaghniac]

Some discussion elsewhere suggests that Meath are going to spend 20m on a stand in Navan something like the Athletic grounds. Does anyone know of this, as it gives an indication of construction costs?

[illdecide]

Some discussion elsewhere suggests that Meath are going to spend 20m on a stand in Navan something like the Athletic grounds. Does anyone know of this, as it gives an indication of construction costs?

It really won't tbh as there are so many factors that we don't know about. Ground conditions etc, this has a major impact on the price and dictates foundation types and depths etc. Not getting into the nitty gritty but I know what you mean. Steel prices rose 66% after Covid and building materials in general close to 50%, the higher up you construct the more expensive it is. Twice as high is not twice the price but more like 5 times, in saying all that you'll get some damn stand for £20m.
I heard a while back that Casement was riddled with Japanese knotweed, if this is the case then that is extremely difficult to get rid off.

[Rossfan]

https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2025/01/15/pairc-tailteann-project-unlikely-to-start-until-late-2025/

[armaghniac]

https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2025/01/15/pairc-tailteann-project-unlikely-to-start-until-late-2025/

That they have rowed back from a 7000 capacity does not seem hopeful. In both this location and Casement there was a stand previously there, ground conditions etc are not unknown and probably not too challenging.
The more I see of this the more grateful I am to those who got the Athletic grounds stand built and the ground generally, we have had good use of it in the last season. 

[marty34]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

[Walter Cronc]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

Off topic but seems a mental location for south Armagh players. Would Armagh itself not be better suited?

[maddog]

Newry to Portadown wouldn't take much longer than Newry to Armagh. Probably about 5 miles difference. Forkhill Killeavy etc just outside Newry.

[thewobbler]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

Off topic but seems a mental location for south Armagh players. Would Armagh itself not be better suited?

I dunno.

Portadown has motorway access from Belfast, plus it is handier got to from Dublin. So it's more accessible for students and young professionals.

Down are having a proper "hold my beer" moment if you think this one a poor decision.

[p3427977]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

Off topic but seems a mental location for south Armagh players. Would Armagh itself not be better suited?

I dunno.

Portadown has motorway access from Belfast, plus it is handier got to from Dublin. So it's more accessible for students and young professionals.

Down are having a proper "hold my beer" moment if you think this one a poor decision.

Where's theirs? Ballywalter?

[armaghniac]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

Off topic but seems a mental location for south Armagh players. Would Armagh itself not be better suited?

I dunno.

Portadown has motorway access from Belfast, plus it is handier got to from Dublin. So it's more accessible for students and young professionals.

In what way is Portadown handy to get to from Dublin? The Newry-Armagh road is as good a single carriageway as you'll get, while the road to Portadown is nothing special. Unless you mean that people are going to training on the train?

[thewobbler]

Do Armagh GAA have a Centre of Excellence?

Are they not building one in portadown?

Off topic but seems a mental location for south Armagh players. Would Armagh itself not be better suited?

I dunno.

Portadown has motorway access from Belfast, plus it is handier got to from Dublin. So it's more accessible for students and young professionals.

In what way is Portadown handy to get to from Dublin? The Newry-Armagh road is as good a single carriageway as you'll get, while the road to Portadown is nothing special. Unless you mean that people are going to training on the train?

Dual carriageway to Banbridge then 20 mins across to Portadown via Gilford.

There's not much in it. But having spent a winter driving my youngster from Newry to that part of the world for Mid Ulster soccer, I'd favour a trip to Portadown over Armagh every time. More ways to get to it, get through it, get around it. Newry to Armagh is the single carriageway from hell followed by junction from hell at the police station.