Ulster Championship 2025

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Main Street

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2025, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 03:58:02 PMThoughts on the line ball. Should it have been play on or was ref correct.

Didn't watch it but was it a Donegal line ball?
The pundits said it should've been a Donegal line ball but that's besides the point as it was awarded to Monaghan.

SouthDublinBro

The goalie Beggan cost Monaghan that game with the shot that was blocked down near the end. You would expect more quality from an old head.

clarshack

https://youtu.be/9eafrye6iDY

That's the point I was talking about in my last post. Hooter had already sounded.

J70

Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2025, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 03:58:02 PMThoughts on the line ball. Should it have been play on or was ref correct.

Didn't watch it but was it a Donegal line ball?
The pundits said it should've been a Donegal line ball but that's besides the point as it was awarded to Monaghan.

Yep, the only question to be answered is whether the line ball, once awarded to Monaghan, should have been taken.

tyrone08

Quote from: clarshack on April 20, 2025, 04:22:10 PMhttps://youtu.be/9eafrye6iDY

That's the point I was talking about in my last post. Hooter had already sounded.

Think because it was already out before the hooter sounded that played should have continued until the next break in play.

tyrone08

Going by this my understanding is that the play should have continued. The side was awarded before the hooter and was signaled which meant monaghan should have been allowed to play on

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1500934/

Main Street

In the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.

McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from  kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.

The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.

tyrone08

Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:49:39 PMIn the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.

McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from  kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.

The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.

Who may have won the match doesnt come in to it. Monaghan were denied the correct time by the ref. If it was an ai final there would be calls for a replay.

Cavan19

Quote from: tyrone08 on April 20, 2025, 05:07:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2025, 04:49:39 PMIn the event of had the game beeen played on, the 2 points still had to be scored and had it been scored there would still be extra time to play and Donegallooked to be the fitter team.

McCarthy in space lobbing the hopeful ball into the square in the last 1/4 was a waste, when with a little more effort he could have put it over the bar for 2 points.
Overall Donegal were more in control, their possesion from  kickouts seemed vastly superior and scoring points took a lot less effort, just they stumbled badly with the finishing line in sight.

The pundits referred to Cork v Kerry where the game was allowed to play on (for a 45?) when the hooter blew with the ball out of play.

Who may have won the match doesnt come in to it. Monaghan were denied the correct time by the ref. If it was an ai final there would be calls for a replay.

Why? the ball was out for a side line and the hooter went it's game over the referee got it right.

Wildweasel74

Didnt see the game, If the ball went out before the hooter, I think they can take the sideline.

Cavan19

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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 20, 2025, 05:18:15 PMDidnt see the game, If the ball went out before the hooter, I think they can take the sideline.
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If the ball is already out of play following a score, a wide or for a sideline kick when the hooter sounds, the Referee shall signal the end of playing time on the sounding of the hooter.

Not even sure if that is correct I though a kick out could be taken?

David McKeown

I thought that was the correct decision on the hooter, which is one of the reasons why I dont like the hooter.  The 3 v3 infraction made arguably a 4 point swing.  Monaghan should feel more aggrieved by that
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flowerpot

Quote from: thewobbler on April 20, 2025, 02:47:31 PM
Quote from: flowerpot on April 20, 2025, 02:27:21 PMIs there another team field sport where 20 percent of the team are restricted from one half of the field, asking for a friend.

Let's see.

In soccer, attackers aren't allowed to be ahead of defenders, meaning up to 50% of the field.

In rugby, neither attackers nor defenders can be ahead of the ball, meaning up to 99.9 of the field.

In NFL, the offensive line are unable to receive the ball until it has passed the line of scrimmage. Which is up to 99.9% of field.

Basketball's back court rule means 50% of the court is out of action for everyone once the ball crosses that line.

So while I can see you're trying to make a point here, the point you're trying to make is not one that supports your general argument.


Apologies know nothing nor want to know anything about NFL in the rest if a player gets a ball from deep and darts forward, they wouldn't have to stop at the halfway line and pass forward or back because only a few of their teammates were in that defensive half, they could continue with the aim or scoring or finding a team mate better positioned to score. I do get Rugby you can only pass back so everyone is behind the ball but everyone can follow the ball over the halfway line.

balladmaker

#613
A lot of scores coming off the back of too many steps across most games this weekend.  The Sean O'Shea goal being the worst and most impactful to the outcome of a game.  Some dubious scores coming off the back of too many steps again in Clones this afternoon. Either refs are going to police it or they ain't, but the message seems to be that you're ok to take whatever steps are needed if you're being tackled at the same time.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: balladmaker on April 20, 2025, 06:14:07 PMA lot of scores coming off the back of too many steps across most games this weekend.  The Sean O'Shea Kerry goal being the worst and most impactful to the outcome of a game.  Either refs are going to police it or they ain't, but the message seems to be that your ok to take whatever steps are needed if you're being tackled at the same time.

That was definitely an old time not official rule

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