FRC Feedback - poll on new rules - which do you like least?

[Truthsayer]

Wish Gavin, his ego and the rest of the arseholes would go away and make a new sport, they're going to f**k Gaelic football.

Blame the coaches who have destroyed our game. Gavin and those other very intelligent thinkers who have been at the top of the game are trying to sort out the mess likes of McGuinness and Harte and coaches who copied them... including idiots managing clubs. . recycle, recycle,  pass it back fuc sake!

[on the sideline]

Wish Gavin, his ego and the rest of the arseholes would go away and make a new sport, they're going to f**k Gaelic football.

Blame the coaches who have destroyed our game. Gavin and those other very intelligent thinkers who have been at the top of the game are trying to sort out the mess likes of McGuinness and Harte and coaches who copied them... including idiots managing clubs. . recycle, recycle,  pass it back fuc sake!

Do you think all changes are good? And more importantly, workable at all levels of football?

I think some are very good.

I think others are unnecessary or plainly don't work.

I think that rather than accept this the FRC have gone down the route of doubling down and continually amending those rules to the point where they have become an almost unrefereeabe mess.

They would get far more credit for being willing to acknowledge this and reigning back - not bulldozing forward.

Had they brought in the solo and go, the dissent rules, no pass back to gk in own half, the ability to take kickouts before everyone is outside the 21 and the 2 point arc this year they would have made a good stab at what they where set up to do.

[Armagh18]

Wish Gavin, his ego and the rest of the arseholes would go away and make a new sport, they're going to f**k Gaelic football.

Blame the coaches who have destroyed our game. Gavin and those other very intelligent thinkers who have been at the top of the game are trying to sort out the mess likes of McGuinness and Harte and coaches who copied them... including idiots managing clubs. . recycle, recycle,  pass it back fuc sake!

Jim Gavin the man who managed the least risk taking team of all time.

[Truthsayer]

Wish Gavin, his ego and the rest of the arseholes would go away and make a new sport, they're going to f**k Gaelic football.

Blame the coaches who have destroyed our game. Gavin and those other very intelligent thinkers who have been at the top of the game are trying to sort out the mess likes of McGuinness and Harte and coaches who copied them... including idiots managing clubs. . recycle, recycle,  pass it back fuc sake!

Jim Gavin the man who managed the least risk taking team of all time.

You're kidding?
Tyrone played Dublin 2017 All Ireland semi-final with one 5'6" forward Mark Bradley. Dubs we're great blend of defence and attack blew teams away...
Donegal 2011! Jimmy McGuinness destroyed the game. All Ireland semi-final a point behind Dublin with a man extra... continued all in defence.

[trileacman]

So if you drop back 15 players it's a free on halfway. Surely teams will now drop the full 15 players back as the free will be moved all the way back at halfway.

[Rossfan]

That's my reading of it as well.
The free should at least be from where the chap interfered with play

[on the sideline]

That's my reading of it as well.
The free should at least be from where the chap interfered with play

See. A mess.

[Truthsayer]

A few tweaks be ok. League games were great improvement on the garbage in recent years. People can complain all they like; thankfully that sh*tshow is behind us.

[on the sideline]

A few tweaks be ok. League games were great improvement on the garbage in recent years. People can complain all they like; thankfully that sh*tshow is behind us.

How many tweaks? Every time they change something there's an unintended consequence that means another change is needed. Where, and when, does it stop?

[EoinW]

Wish Gavin, his ego and the rest of the arseholes would go away and make a new sport, they're going to f**k Gaelic football.

Blame the coaches who have destroyed our game. Gavin and those other very intelligent thinkers who have been at the top of the game are trying to sort out the mess likes of McGuinness and Harte and coaches who copied them... including idiots managing clubs. . recycle, recycle,  pass it back fuc sake!

Let's try to be fair here.  Coaches have been doing this in every sport.  That's because they are competitors looking for the best way to win.  They are not given their position to be honourable losers.  The 21st century mindset is "the end justifies the means".

It is the role of the GAA to encourage balance, make tweeks which give the teams wishing to play a more open offensive game a better chance to succeed while doing so.  Kicking and calling for a mark is a perfect example of this. 

The FRC should be working on tweeks that the competitors can use to improve the game.  Instead, in totalitarian fashion, they have decreed massive changes.  It's the players and managers who play the game but the bureaucrats get the final say on what the game will be?  That's not right.

Reigning in the attacking goalkeepers is a terrible idea which discourages a new offensive minded innovation to the game.  It is an example that given a chance the teams will figure out new ways to make the game better.  Unfortunately the FRC seem more interested in dictating what the game will be, rather than letting the teams figure that out.

[trileacman]

What annoys me is that we removed the game from the dictatorship of coaches and handed it over to the dictatorship of the referee.

50m advances, black cards, 20 second kickouts, 20 Second frees. The game now all revolves around punishing players rather than letting the game be played.

[Truthsayer]

What annoys me is that we removed the game from the dictatorship of coaches and handed it over to the dictatorship of the referee.

50m advances, black cards, 20 second kickouts, 20 Second frees. The game now all revolves around punishing players rather than letting the game be played.

I think those loose ends will be sorted. Not sure the game has been played in recent years...

[trileacman]

What annoys me is that we removed the game from the dictatorship of coaches and handed it over to the dictatorship of the referee.

50m advances, black cards, 20 second kickouts, 20 Second frees. The game now all revolves around punishing players rather than letting the game be played.

I think those loose ends will be sorted. Not sure the game has been played in recent years...

Ive watched the loose ends be replaced with more loose ends this weekend. Anyone on the side of massive rule changes will be in the minority come the business end of championship.

[Truthsayer]

What annoys me is that we removed the game from the dictatorship of coaches and handed it over to the dictatorship of the referee.

50m advances, black cards, 20 second kickouts, 20 Second frees. The game now all revolves around punishing players rather than letting the game be played.

I think those loose ends will be sorted. Not sure the game has been played in recent years...

Ive watched the loose ends be replaced with more loose ends this weekend. Anyone on the side of massive rule changes will be in the minority come the business end of championship.

it's much better already although it couldn't have got worse

[Smokin Joe]

My view is that if these tweaks get thru next Monday night that we won't see too many frees for breaching the 3 (4) up for the rest of the season.

I would say that almost all the 3 Up breaches have been accidental where a player switched off not realising he was the 3rd man up or drifted back following his man.  Hardly any of these impacted the play.
If this happens from next weekend under the latest rules I think the linesman will shout at players in this instance to get back, as opposed to flag for a free as they are currently.

The whole idea of the 3 up was to ensure teams could only defend with 11 outfield players, not 14.  It wasn't so that free takers could take 2 point free kicks outside the arc.  In fairness, the FRC have seen what it has become and realised that all the 2 point frees for minor breaches was not what they intended.

How many breaches have there been for actually properly defending with 12 back?  Just the Tyrone one after the black card last weekend is all I am aware of.
So I think this latest tweak is good.  It will mean that teams defend with 11 players (as intended) but there won't be too many 2 point frees scored as a result of a non-concentrating forward.