Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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groundlie

Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2025, 11:54:32 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 06, 2025, 11:17:16 PMIt's not a take.

It's a grounding in reality.

The competition committee have rules in place for venues that outrank the rules for home and away draws.

These rules are in place to ensure the competition can fulfil its remit as the premier GAA tournament in Ulster.

It's the draw of these tournaments that provides the financial flex to provide mileage, meals and medical care for players.

Antrim's players and management have gone to war carrying buckets and spades. It's a f**king nonsense.

What is the written criteria?  Is there a minimum capacity required or other logistical considerations?

If signed up to a competition then I assume signed up to that written criteria.

Be interesting to see it.

And should remove any argument.

Or we could just make sh!t up and debate that.

Yes, absolutely! If there is specific criteria in black and white then that would make sense.

Why did it take them so long to flag this up? Surely with this criteria a neutral venue for Antrims "home" game would have been set even before the draw was made?

I think I'm right in saying Corrigan Park as had capacity crowds in recent years with the visits of Cork and Kilkenny.
The requirements were not mentioned much then and a great day out was had by the children of Antrim watching their heroes on their own turf.

take_yer_points

Quote from: groundlie on March 07, 2025, 07:34:44 AM
Quote from: Hectic on March 06, 2025, 11:54:32 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 06, 2025, 11:17:16 PMIt's not a take.

It's a grounding in reality.

The competition committee have rules in place for venues that outrank the rules for home and away draws.

These rules are in place to ensure the competition can fulfil its remit as the premier GAA tournament in Ulster.

It's the draw of these tournaments that provides the financial flex to provide mileage, meals and medical care for players.

Antrim's players and management have gone to war carrying buckets and spades. It's a f**king nonsense.

What is the written criteria?  Is there a minimum capacity required or other logistical considerations?

If signed up to a competition then I assume signed up to that written criteria.

Be interesting to see it.

And should remove any argument.

Or we could just make sh!t up and debate that.

Yes, absolutely! If there is specific criteria in black and white then that would make sense.

Why did it take them so long to flag this up? Surely with this criteria a neutral venue for Antrims "home" game would have been set even before the draw was made?

I think I'm right in saying Corrigan Park as had capacity crowds in recent years with the visits of Cork and Kilkenny.
The requirements were not mentioned much then and a great day out was had by the children of Antrim watching their heroes on their own turf.

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that the draw was made with the capacity known. The Ulster council subsequently sold season tickets to Armagh knowing they couldn't fit everyone into Corrigan

bannside

Quote from: gallsman on March 06, 2025, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2025, 09:25:16 PMGPA backing Antrims stance, including fair play, Armagh players. Now it gets really interesting.

Is the GPA specifically backing the stance? All I read is that they issued a statement at the request and on behalf of the Antrim players. Those aren't the same things.

Good point. Not sure of the answer.

tiempo

Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2025, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 06, 2025, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 06, 2025, 09:25:16 PMGPA backing Antrims stance, including fair play, Armagh players. Now it gets really interesting.

Is the GPA specifically backing the stance? All I read is that they issued a statement at the request and on behalf of the Antrim players. Those aren't the same things.

Good point. Not sure of the answer.

They've issued that to f**k off Brian McEvoy, plain and simple

lurganblue

This by the by, as I fully believe that Antrim footballers should have their home advantage and I would support them in their stance, but I just cant understand why Antrim havent developed another ground to hold say 10k with a lot of it standing. Theyve only had 20 years  ::)

Tony Baloney

Quote from: lurganblue on March 07, 2025, 09:04:46 AMThis by the by, as I fully believe that Antrim footballers should have their home advantage and I would support them in their stance, but I just cant understand why Antrim havent developed another ground to hold say 10k with a lot of it standing. Theyve only had 20 years  ::)
:D  Has anyone heard anything about that?

Stephen McGeechan was on The View last night but didn't see it. Anyone any updates?

Rossfan

Season tickets aren't sold by the Ulster Council as someone said earlier.

Has the Ulster Council got a "venue approved by the CCC" clause in their competition rules and regulations?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: lurganblue on March 07, 2025, 09:04:46 AMThis by the by, as I fully believe that Antrim footballers should have their home advantage and I would support them in their stance, but I just cant understand why Antrim havent developed another ground to hold say 10k with a lot of it standing. Theyve only had 20 years  ::)
Because they continue to believe the complete baloney from Ulster GAA that Casement Park is just around the corner.
They need to withdraw support for the pie in the sky stadium and campaign that Ulster GAA uses the money they have to build a stadium. And they have enough to build a damn good one.

Orior

As someone else said earlier, if Antrim want to grow the game in their county then they need as many youngsters as possible in the ground to see their team playing against the All-Ireland champions.

The current publicity is great but it won't steer young lads away from the soccer ball.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

JoG2

Quote from: Orior on March 07, 2025, 10:41:49 AMAs someone else said earlier, if Antrim want to grow the game in their county then they need as many youngsters as possible in the ground to see their team playing against the All-Ireland champions.

The current publicity is great but it won't steer young lads away from the soccer ball.

Not sure the crowds of buckfast gulpers would seal the deal either

Armamike

Quote from: JoG2 on March 07, 2025, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: Orior on March 07, 2025, 10:41:49 AMAs someone else said earlier, if Antrim want to grow the game in their county then they need as many youngsters as possible in the ground to see their team playing against the All-Ireland champions.

The current publicity is great but it won't steer young lads away from the soccer ball.

Not sure the crowds of buckfast gulpers would seal the deal either

You forgot to add apple munchers.
That's just, like your opinion man.

Armamike

Quote from: Orior on March 07, 2025, 10:41:49 AMAs someone else said earlier, if Antrim want to grow the game in their county then they need as many youngsters as possible in the ground to see their team playing against the All-Ireland champions.

The current publicity is great but it won't steer young lads away from the soccer ball.

Maybe controversial to say this out loud but Antrim football's biggest competition may be hurling!  At go games ages a lot of the kids in the greater Belfast area play soccer on Friday nights or Saturday mornings. There'll be many of these who'll juggle the gaelic and be able to play the go games or go to training as well.  But hurling takes up time too and imo there's not enough football games because dual clubs are trying to straddle both. I don't think Antrim can be strong at both and are getting caught between the two.  Just my opinion. 
That's just, like your opinion man.

AustinPowers

The IFA nominated a  hypothetical  Casement  Park for the Euro 2028 bid , because Windsor Park was deemed too  small/inadequate  by UEFA.

Fair enough,  although Casement won't be built in time now.

Why didn't Central Council/Ulster GAA  ask   each county  to nominate  a county ground(s) prior to the championship draws, akin to the Euros bid?

So, if  the powers that be deemed Corrigan   inadequate for a championship match before the  draw, then it's still inadequate  after the draw.

Would have made things  much easier

groundlie

If the ground is unsuitable for Ulster GAA games then how is it deemed suitable for Leinster Championship games and all Ireland series games? Confusing.

Rossfan

The 15,000 Armagh supporters might have helped them in their decision.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.