NFL Division 1 2025

[naka]

It is the inconsistency with the "flexibility" that is very frustrating.

In earlier games some linesmen were allowing teams to "cross over", ie if a team had 3 men back and 1 crossed forward, but half a second later he was replaced by a teammate that wasn't given as a breach.

But in the Armagh v Dublin game on Saturday night at 64:15 on the RTE clock Kilkenny was pinged for a breach of the 3up rule even though he was replaced by a teammate in a fraction of a second.

thought dublin harshly penalised once when the forward was coming to get a pass and went across the line by a few metres.Definitely thought referee was a homer om saturday night with the amount of 50/50s going armagh way.

[bennydorano]

The whole thing is far too overcomplicated! It's good to see games opening up but it's gone too far the other way with too much chaos.  We're seeing games now where a team can lead by 15 points one half and there's the same kind of swing the other way second half.  That's just nuts! 

The big problem as I see it is that 1 rule change can have a few knock-on unintended consequences that can only be sorted by more tinkering and then you're chasing your tail, it will settle eventually but the nonsense of no pre-season competitions and the very compact inter-county season is complicating things enormously.

A good starting point(in general) would be to stop listening to the GPA's nonsense.

[armaghniac]

So when is it a free from the point of crossing the line to having the free on the 14 with the potential to take it back to the arc and go for a two pointer?

It is when a player crosses the line to get the ball that it is a free from the halfway line, otherwise it is a 20m / free from the arc.

It does seem strange that there is such a difference in the punishment.  Step over the halfway line to win the ball and it's a free from there, but take 1 step over the line when you don't have the ball in your hand and you are conceding 2 points.

This is a bit strange, since in the latter case you are not affecting play in the least.

One thing mentioned last night was the Tyrone black card coming back on. A simple change here would be to require players to enter the game on their own side of halfway. This would allow an easier count.

[EoinW]

I believe the Dublin infraction was the first time I've seen any team break the 3-3 rule.  All the other times were off camera.  It doesn't help avoid controversy when there is no centre line.  Why not make it 3 within the 65 meter lines?

This kind of highlights the problem with this year's blitzkrieg of rule changes.  It's a nightmare for referees to officiate.

[Wildweasel74]

No free should be worth a 2pter, keeping it from play yes, I rather see the arc further out.

[Smokin Joe]

I believe the Dublin infraction was the first time I've seen any team break the 3-3 rule.  All the other times were off camera.  It doesn't help avoid controversy when there is no centre line.  Why not make it 3 within the 65 meter lines?

This kind of highlights the problem with this year's blitzkrieg of rule changes.  It's a nightmare for referees to officiate.

What are you talking about?  Have you seen any games this year?
There is a centre line on the pitches, and in fact both Castlebar and the Athletic Grounds have seem to have dispensed with their 65m lines. So that plan of yours definitely isn't an improvement.

[Rossfan]

Some posts here should go the wtf thread🙄

[EoinW]

I believe the Dublin infraction was the first time I've seen any team break the 3-3 rule.  All the other times were off camera.  It doesn't help avoid controversy when there is no centre line.  Why not make it 3 within the 65 meter lines?

This kind of highlights the problem with this year's blitzkrieg of rule changes.  It's a nightmare for referees to officiate.

What are you talking about?  Have you seen any games this year?
There is a centre line on the pitches, and in fact both Castlebar and the Athletic Grounds have seem to have dispensed with their 65m lines. So that plan of yours definitely isn't an improvement.

Yes, though none from Castlebar.  I see the usual stripes at centre, not a line stretching from sideline to sideline.  Maybe I should clean my glasses more often!

However, if my vision isn't faulty and there is no solid line all the way across the field, then my point stands.

Though the only point that matters to me is the latter one: too many rule changes all at once!  The Rules Committee really must have hated Gaelic Football to want to completely transform the game.

[Rossfan]

It feckin well needed transformation after the last few tears of muck

[Smokin Joe]

I believe the Dublin infraction was the first time I've seen any team break the 3-3 rule.  All the other times were off camera.  It doesn't help avoid controversy when there is no centre line.  Why not make it 3 within the 65 meter lines?

This kind of highlights the problem with this year's blitzkrieg of rule changes.  It's a nightmare for referees to officiate.

What are you talking about?  Have you seen any games this year?
There is a centre line on the pitches, and in fact both Castlebar and the Athletic Grounds have seem to have dispensed with their 65m lines. So that plan of yours definitely isn't an improvement.

Yes, though none from Castlebar.  I see the usual stripes at centre, not a line stretching from sideline to sideline.  Maybe I should clean my glasses more often!

However, if my vision isn't faulty and there is no solid line all the way across the field, then my point stands.

Though the only point that matters to me is the latter one: too many rule changes all at once!  The Rules Committee really must have hated Gaelic Football to want to completely transform the game.

"I see the usual stripes at centre"
Usual from when? From January this year?  The striped lines all across the pitch are new this year, last year there was only one 5m line for the throw in.
The reason the dashed line is all across the pitch at halfway, and not a solid line like the 45s and 65s is to enable the ref to easily see where half way is, ie it is different to the solid lines.

[Applesisapples]

All talk of who Dublin are missing.

Armagh missing 3 from defence, McKay Kelly Forker
Both midfielders, Crealey Grimley
2 half fwds, ONeill McElroy

Back to back titles

I wouldn't think so, the championship is a lottery with teams so close. People always also underestimate the advantage playing down the hill in Armagh is.

[Applesisapples]

Why was the Dublin point that should have been 1-12 for them eventually disallowed. Did the Referee listen to the crowd?

It was clearly wide from the tv angles. Cassidy called it.

[Blowitupref]

[Orior]

All talk of who Dublin are missing.

Armagh missing 3 from defence, McKay Kelly Forker
Both midfielders, Crealey Grimley
2 half fwds, ONeill McElroy

Back to back titles

I wouldn't think so, the championship is a lottery with teams so close. People always also underestimate the advantage playing down the hill in Armagh is.

How much of a fall is the gradient? There must be some other reason too.

[JPO]

A bit Soccer with 11 behind the ball in a zone ( defensive structure is the fancy term). Basketball around the 40m arc. Scrum in the middle of the field after a kickout. The Meath manager is correct. What a wonderful sport we have.