NFL Division 1 2025

[Milltown Row2]

Yep you can defend with the same number but like I said it screws you on the transition attack as you're completely outnumbered up the field

But yeah it probably should and will be changed. It will then become a greater penalty than it was under the old rules, and referees will decide far more games with red & black card decisions than they did previously. I just hope some people and especially managers who complain about referees at the best of times are ready for that

This bit in bold, explain it a bit further as I'm at a loss here...

The referee will apply a card if needs be for the ACTION ONF THE PLAYER... It is down to the players poor decisions in the game that decide whether his team finishes with 15 players or not.

A very simple example is Sunday just past where Tierney goes for a shoulder, a player ducks into him at the last second and its ambigious even on slow motion camera afterwards whether there's contact with the head

Nobody truly 100% knows if that's a redcard or not. All pundits on TG4 said afterwads it wasn't. Reaction is more split online, probably 70/30 in favour of it not being a red

However the referee and linesman took an interpretation and gave the red. Under changed rules that decision will very likely decide a game between two even teams in championship. Under the current red card rules its less likely to

As said when it came out, I haven't seen the view on the sideline from where the linesman intervened, maybe he seen something different, from what I saw it looked very very harsh..

I hope the camera angle provides a better view and a players ban is not given.

It is still the duty of the players to play within the rules and there will be calls that one team will think is correct and the other team won't.

To say the ref will decide far more games is wrong, and we can highlight thousands of calls that the players carry out in games that highlight their stupidity and do that themselves.

You only have to watch the same game that Joyce gave the look to the lad that stupidly received a black card. I'd say confidently that I'll find 10x or more where the player is at fault

[JPO]

It appears Derry are struggling this year with having to defend without the whole team. behind the ball. At least the new rules are exposing how a lot of players are not really players at all.

[oakleaflad]

It appears Derry are struggling this year with having to defend without the whole team. behind the ball. At least the new rules are exposing how a lot of players are not really players at all.

That and missing 4 of the players that have been mainstays of the defense over this past few years, 3 of those 4 being All Stars.

[Manning18]

Yep you can defend with the same number but like I said it screws you on the transition attack as you're completely outnumbered up the field

But yeah it probably should and will be changed. It will then become a greater penalty than it was under the old rules, and referees will decide far more games with red & black card decisions than they did previously. I just hope some people and especially managers who complain about referees at the best of times are ready for that

This bit in bold, explain it a bit further as I'm at a loss here...

The referee will apply a card if needs be for the ACTION ONF THE PLAYER... It is down to the players poor decisions in the game that decide whether his team finishes with 15 players or not.

A very simple example is Sunday just past where Tierney goes for a shoulder, a player ducks into him at the last second and its ambigious even on slow motion camera afterwards whether there's contact with the head

Nobody truly 100% knows if that's a redcard or not. All pundits on TG4 said afterwads it wasn't. Reaction is more split online, probably 70/30 in favour of it not being a red

However the referee and linesman took an interpretation and gave the red. Under changed rules that decision will very likely decide a game between two even teams in championship. Under the current red card rules its less likely to

As said when it came out, I haven't seen the view on the sideline from where the linesman intervened, maybe he seen something different, from what I saw it looked very very harsh..

I hope the camera angle provides a better view and a players ban is not given.

It is still the duty of the players to play within the rules and there will be calls that one team will think is correct and the other team won't.

To say the ref will decide far more games is wrong, and we can highlight thousands of calls that the players carry out in games that highlight their stupidity and do that themselves.

You only have to watch the same game that Joyce gave the look to the lad that stupidly received a black card. I'd say confidently that I'll find 10x or more where the player is at fault

You're misunderstanding what both myself and galwayman are saying here. "the ref decided the game" is obviously just a sketchy catch all term but in the past there's been borderline red cards that a ref has given out that has swung a tight game one way or the other, that's indisputable. Its happened in every sport

The overall point is that if they change the rules to make 3 players always stay back when attacking and stay forward when defending regardless of red cards then sending offs will much more impactful than under the old rules. And thus a dodgy or plain incorrect sending off decision by a referee will have a much greater impact on the game than previously.

Nobody is suggesting that the overwhelming majority of red cards arent the players fault and responsibility, or suggesting that refs don't get the vast majority of red card decisions correct

[Milltown Row2]

Would have been better understood had you just said... If a player is sent off or black carded it'll have a negative effect on the game...

[StephenC]

Are people suggesting that the way it is right now is working? The game is mostly played against a set defence, so if there is no disadvantage to having a player sent off (cause it's still 12 v 12) what's the penalty for a red card?

[Milltown Row2]

Are people suggesting that the way it is right now is working? The game is mostly played against a set defence, so if there is no disadvantage to having a player sent off (cause it's still 12 v 12) what's the penalty for a red card?

Seems to be the flaw in thinking, it has been brought up by that group, keeping the keeper in the large rectangle if you go a man down?

[HiMucker]

Is the easiest way to rectify this, not to allow the opposing team to match what the team with man black or red carded have? Ie. If the team with the black card only leave 2 forwards up, then the opposing team can make the call to use the spare man defensively or offensively just like before. Or am I missing something?

[Wildweasel74]

Ah bck to the old way witj a man send off, with 14 v 14 and goalkeeper barely venturing by their own 45, outside Morgan,Began,Lynch.

[APM]

Is the easiest way to rectify this, not to allow the opposing team to match what the team with man black or red carded have? Ie. If the team with the black card only leave 2 forwards up, then the opposing team can make the call to use the spare man defensively or offensively just like before. Or am I missing something?

That's exactly what I would have thought and can't understand why it wasn't done like this in the first place! Like you, I'm wondering if I'm missing something!

[HiMucker]

Is the easiest way to rectify this, not to allow the opposing team to match what the team with man black or red carded have? Ie. If the team with the black card only leave 2 forwards up, then the opposing team can make the call to use the spare man defensively or offensively just like before. Or am I missing something?

That's exactly what I would have thought and can't understand why it wasn't done like this in the first place! Like you, I'm wondering if I'm missing something!

Kerry had two men off, with 3 Tyrone players having to be back marking one forward. What if it was 3 players off, would they have had to have 3 back marking no one lol? If I have got this correct Id say its something that they have just completely over looked and will surely correct it.

[Rossfan]

That's the good thing about having a one year trial of the "Enhanced" rules.

[bennydorano]

Hear Rian o'Neill was back at training last night.

[Armagh18]

Hear Rian o'Neill was back at training last night.

That's the stuff.

If we get him and McKay back we're laughing. 

[naka]

Hear Rian o'Neill was back at training last night.

Believe so
Saw Oisín Saturday night so hopefully both guys getting back