NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

Main Street

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent

greatpoint

Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:19:20 PMHow can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:28:45 PMI've said this many times, what's dissent for you may not be for me, let the ref decide how dissent over frustration is implemented, I'm long enough in the game to know who's being a p***k

Totally agree. I refereed for 10 plus years myself, and would have been pretty lenient with dissent (mainly because I did a lot of slabbering as a player :)).

It's the inconsistency I'm concerned about because it's a pretty harsh penalty. It's going to be difficult for referees to be consistent in the heat of a championship game.

It certainly will be but lay it out from the start and be honest to yourself and have integrity. If you have those two then you can go too far wrong.

I really think there's an inbuilt hatred/distrust/lack of respect for referees

I'm bored of the ego/all about him/cheater/hates our club attitude
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

OakLeaf

#1128
Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent


But I think that comes under this bit:

"and any form of neck restraint or interference with the neck and throat area."

So if grab somebody by the neck then that's a Red? But if i accidentally slap someone on the face in the tackle, that's probably not a Red.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent


I know that, but deeds was saying any, gave him a few chances to roll back but hey ho
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:23:31 PMDonegal had no interest or intention of winning that game

But they'll have their chest puffed out when Tyrone come to town.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: clarshack on February 23, 2025, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:23:31 PMDonegal had no interest or intention of winning that game

But they'll have their chest puffed out when Tyrone come to town.

Yeah, and that's all about putting manners on your Ulster rivals
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

Replays show he didn't even make contact with neck or head. Doesn't even look a foul on tv. Shoulder to shoulder and side to side

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 05:50:54 PMReplays show he didn't even make contact with neck or head. Doesn't even look a foul on tv. Shoulder to shoulder and side to side

You could replay it a thousand times at no point is their contact to neck or head.. even if his neck was as long as Beakers from Sesame street he still wouldn't have hit it.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

OakLeaf

#1134
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:19:20 PMHow can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

Smokin Joe

Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:19:20 PMHow can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?
The clock doesn't stop everytinme the ball is "dead". The clock runs after a wide, for example.  So it is very possible that the hooter blows before a keeper kicks a ball out.

Main Street

Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent


But I think that comes under this bit:

"and any form of neck restraint or interference with the neck and throat area."

So if grab somebody by the neck then that's a Red? But if i accidentally slap someone on the face in the tackle, that's probably not a Red.
In that event, if spotted I think the ref would give you the accidental red.





Milltown Row2

Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent


But I think that comes under this bit:

"and any form of neck restraint or interference with the neck and throat area."

So if grab somebody by the neck then that's a Red? But if i accidentally slap someone on the face in the tackle, that's probably not a Red.
In that event, if spotted I think the ref would give you the accidental red.





Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 23, 2025, 05:35:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2025, 05:13:40 PMSo not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers
Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent


But I think that comes under this bit:

"and any form of neck restraint or interference with the neck and throat area."

So if grab somebody by the neck then that's a Red? But if i accidentally slap someone on the face in the tackle, that's probably not a Red.
In that event, if spotted I think the ref would give you the accidental red.






I suppose it depends, if someone accidentally slapped your face it's play on
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

greatpoint

Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:56:55 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:19:20 PMHow can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:56:55 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 23, 2025, 05:22:57 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 23, 2025, 05:19:20 PMHow can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.