NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

Wildweasel74

#660
Not sure why People crying about Walshs non point. Was over at that side not far from him hitting it. It was wide,curled round once by the posts. Derry one looked wide from even 70m away. Gough gave a free against Derry near the end, moved the ball up 50m. Walsh got a 2pter which is a shit rule from a free. I need see it again on tv but I thought the free should went Derrys way.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 15, 2025, 10:22:22 PMNot sure why People crying about Walshs non point. Was ovef at tgst side not far from him hitting it. It was wide,curled round once by the posts. Derry one looked wide from even 70m away. Gough gave a free against Derry near the end, moved the ball up 50m. Walsh got a 2pter which is a shit rule from a free. I need see it again on tv but I thought the free should went Derrys way.

Clearly a Derry free, Murray hit with a Conroy special.

Murray's point was wide, imo, Walsh's was over, again, imo. But Gough sorted that two point swing. Shocking performance.

GalwayBayBoy

Thought the Walsh point looked over but I couldn't swear for certain that it was.

The Derry one was definitely wide. You could hear all the Derry fans in line with it groan as it went past the post. And then the umpire ran to put up his flag.

statto

Quote from: Mikhailov on February 15, 2025, 09:16:20 PMReferee was brilliant in the Kerry game. Let it go, very consistent in his decision making
Yes was really good allowed contact which adds to the occasion when dubs and Kerry meet. Thought Kerry missed a trick not pressing out on Dublin in first half and allowing them to keep possession for 2/3 minutes which helped kill the clock.


onefineday

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 15, 2025, 08:21:34 PMLads you have to remember for a huge chunk of the audience this will probably be the first game they've seen under the new rules.

Also is it not good that there is some positivity around the game rather than the commentators talking the game down all the time?


Fair point re this might be first game for many people, but the relentless positivity can be very irksome after a while.
Every game is being talked up as being high octane and exciting and the last five years (at least) are being chalked off as unwatchable dross. Now my posts on here for those 5 years will testify that I was very much in favour of change as there was indeed a whole lot of dross, but there's no recognition that the new rules are not without flaws and that there were a whole load of excellent games the last few years too.

On the football pod for example, the increasingly hard to listen to paddy Andrews and James O'Donoghue were comparing Derry v Kerry this year v last year's quarter final - agreed, game was unwatchable, but not a mention of the classic semi-final the year before.

Angus MacGyver

Referee was excellent Dub v Kerry, allowing proper tackles and contests to happen while penalising steps and overcarrying very well. Full credit

Brendan

Quote from: onefineday on February 16, 2025, 01:42:39 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 15, 2025, 08:21:34 PMLads you have to remember for a huge chunk of the audience this will probably be the first game they've seen under the new rules.

Also is it not good that there is some positivity around the game rather than the commentators talking the game down all the time?


Fair point re this might be first game for many people, but the relentless positivity can be very irksome after a while.
Every game is being talked up as being high octane and exciting and the last five years (at least) are being chalked off as unwatchable dross. Now my posts on here for those 5 years will testify that I was very much in favour of change as there was indeed a whole lot of dross, but there's no recognition that the new rules are not without flaws and that there were a whole load of excellent games the last few years too.

On the football pod for example
, the increasingly hard to listen to paddy Andrews and James O'Donoghue were comparing Derry v Kerry this year v last year's quarter final - agreed, game was unwatchable, but not a mention of the classic semi-final the year before.

Them boys are chancers, spend the recording watching united matches and Andrews especially can't recall simple facts, Tommy the host does a good job but would need to freshen up his contributors


statto

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 15, 2025, 09:36:55 PMDecent result given our first half.

Gough once again making game-changing "mistakes" in favour of Galway, who are beginning to reach Tyrone-esque levels of unlikeability.
Turn a blind eye to the score given that was clearly wide so.Don't get the dislike for Galway, is it cause Derry never beat them?

Wildweasel74

Here the Ref basically gave Galway a 2pter, Murray had been fouled at Midfield and was a obvious Derry free, he gave it to Galway. Murray too slow to move, thinking he had the free, moved 50m. Walsh 2 pter.

twohands!!!

#670
Quote from: onefineday on February 16, 2025, 01:42:39 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 15, 2025, 08:21:34 PMLads you have to remember for a huge chunk of the audience this will probably be the first game they've seen under the new rules.

Also is it not good that there is some positivity around the game rather than the commentators talking the game down all the time?


Fair point re this might be first game for many people, but the relentless positivity can be very irksome after a while.
Every game is being talked up as being high octane and exciting and the last five years (at least) are being chalked off as unwatchable dross. Now my posts on here for those 5 years will testify that I was very much in favour of change as there was indeed a whole lot of dross, but there's no recognition that the new rules are not without flaws and that there were a whole load of excellent games the last few years too.

On the football pod for example, the increasingly hard to listen to paddy Andrews and James O'Donoghue were comparing Derry v Kerry this year v last year's quarter final - agreed, game was unwatchable, but not a mention of the classic semi-final the year before.

What put this in my mind about people not being familiar with the rules was that I was talking to my brother-in-law yesterday and he mentioned he was going watching the Dublin v Kerry game and he hadn't heard about the new rules at all. He's very much a fair-weather supporter in terms of GAA and his interest and knowledge is fairly limited.

I didn't really notice much in the way of PR spin with Fitmaurice in the first half so was surprised to see the comments on here a thalf-time. I did find it a bit amusing in the 2nd half when he was getting irritated about Shane Ryan's kickouts all going to the same side - felt a bit like he was almost tempted to wander down the sideline and throw a yell in Shane's direction.

I think those of us who watch a serious volume of games are going to be very sick of the explanations of rules for the next few months. Even going to games isn't that much better as it's clear that even the crowd at this stage going to games aren't that familar with the rules. Was at a league game the weekend before last and it was clear that a serious chunk of the crowd had only a passing familiarity with the new rules yet.

Captain Obvious

Under the old rules Dublin and Derry would have been 7 and 8 points down. Derry would have won the game and Dublin would have drawn.

Two pointers proving a big difference and will they be kept for the championship after this trial run?

Mario

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 16, 2025, 11:17:58 AMUnder the old rules Dublin and Derry would have been 7 and 8 points down. Derry would have won the game and Dublin would have drawn.

Two pointers proving a big difference and will they be kept for the championship after this trial run?
I'd be surprised if they are removed, this year anyway. It's a big shift and disruption to preparations to play all year with 2 pointers then remove it for championship.

If the original new rules had been in place with 4 points for a goal, Derry would have been well beat by Kerry and lost to Galway as well.

GaillimhIarthair

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 16, 2025, 11:17:58 AMUnder the old rules Dublin and Derry would have been 7 and 8 points down. Derry would have won the game and Dublin would have drawn.

Two pointers proving a big difference and will they be kept for the championship after this trial run?
I think 2 pointers from play should be kept but I'd get rid of them for frees etc. Will probably be a few minor tweaks prior to the championship but it's a positive narrative around football at the moment so don't expect a whole pile to change really.  Championship will be the real acid test though. 

galwayman

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 16, 2025, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 16, 2025, 11:17:58 AMUnder the old rules Dublin and Derry would have been 7 and 8 points down. Derry would have won the game and Dublin would have drawn.

Two pointers proving a big difference and will they be kept for the championship after this trial run?
I think 2 pointers from play should be kept but I'd get rid of them for frees etc. Will probably be a few minor tweaks prior to the championship but it's a positive narrative around football at the moment so don't expect a whole pile to change really.  Championship will be the real acid test though. 
I think you have to keep them from frees as well to disincentivise fouling around the 4 arc.
No way you should be able to bring one out to the 40m arc for a technical
Infringement like the 3v3 file example though. That's way too severe