NFL Division 1 2025

[gallsman]

I watched a good bit of it and didn't see much to rave about compared to before. Ciaran Kilkenny did kick a two pointer that you would never previously have seen him go for.

[Easttyrone23]

Write armagh off at your peril. Lads to return as follows.

Paddy Burns
Aaron Mckay
Rian ONeill
Oisin ONeill
Conor ONeill
Ciaran Mackin
Tiernan Kelly
Joe McElroy
Niall Grimley (banned obv)

Have you honestly heard anyone writing Armagh off? League football has no bearing on the Sam maguire. Last year Derry won division 1 while Armagh failed to win division 2.

[statto]

Write armagh off at your peril. Lads to return as follows.

Paddy Burns
Aaron Mckay
Rian ONeill
Oisin ONeill
Conor ONeill
Ciaran Mackin
Tiernan Kelly
Joe McElroy
Niall Grimley (banned obv)

Doubt anyone with a brain is writing any team off at this stage, especially last years winners.

Peter McGrane as well to come back who had a super debut year last year. Out of the boys you named there I'd say 6 are definitely 2 point takers

Only the league yet and we were poor for about 40 minutes last week, wonder how today would have went if Tyrone had the wind first?

who's the 6?

[Armagh18]

I can't remember the last time I seen a decent proper shoulder in county fball. There is abit of physicality but it's more a man getting mauled by 3/4 men in a tackle, bit like the choke tackle in rugby.

Was a couple last night but mainly over on the stand side so not sure who they were lol

[Armagh18]

Write armagh off at your peril. Lads to return as follows.

Paddy Burns
Aaron Mckay
Rian ONeill
Oisin ONeill
Conor ONeill
Ciaran Mackin
Tiernan Kelly
Joe McElroy
Niall Grimley (banned obv)

Doubt anyone with a brain is writing any team off at this stage, especially last years winners.

Peter McGrane as well to come back who had a super debut year last year. Out of the boys you named there I'd say 6 are definitely 2 point takers

Only the league yet and we were poor for about 40 minutes last week, wonder how today would have went if Tyrone had the wind first?

who's the 6?

Rian, Oisin and Niall Grimley for sure. TK would kick long range scores regularly for the club so has it in him, Mackin was always a man for the flashy outside of the left from distance and Conor O'Neill capable as well.

[Captain Obvious]

Armagh strength in depth strangely gets underestimated even by some Armagh heads. Conditioning of the 30 plus panel is among the best also, two keys things any panel needs under the old rules and especially now under the new rules.

Only doubt about Armagh this year was a possible hangover from winning All Ireland, last night showed that won't be an issue as they made Tyrone look punch drunk.

[gallsman]

Where has this narrative about Armagh's lack of strength in depth come from? Or worse, the narrative that their strength in depth is underestimated?

A massive chunk of the discourse last year was around the options McGeeney had to bring on in games. Soupy, McQuillan, Duffy, Nugent etc.

[onefineday]

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

[David McKeown]

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

Fitzmaurice has definitely mentioned if the kick is deflected (even outside the arc) then it's just a 1 pointer.

[Armagh18]

Armagh strength in depth strangely gets underestimated even by some Armagh heads. Conditioning of the 30 plus panel is among the best also, two keys things any panel needs under the old rules and especially now under the new rules.

Only doubt about Armagh this year was a possible hangover from winning All Ireland, last night showed that won't be an issue as they made Tyrone look punch drunk.

It is only the start of February lol! Always said our panel and fitness levels were 2 of our biggest strengths. Wasn't massively pessimistic after last week and no point having a kneejerk reaction again after a good performance, we're in a decent place but lots of improvement to come obviously.

I must say home advantage is a big thing as well in these league games, thought the Armagh support was excellent last night and there was barely room to move in the ground. (To be expected given it was Tyrone and given it was the first home game since winning Sam) 

[Captain Obvious]

Where has this narrative about Armagh's lack of strength in depth come from? Or worse, the narrative that their strength in depth is underestimated?

A massive chunk of the discourse last year was around the options McGeeney had to bring on in games. Soupy, McQuillan, Duffy, Nugent etc.

Go back two pages on this thread to see a few Armagh heads that underestimated the Armagh's strength in depth

[onefineday]

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

Fitzmaurice has definitely mentioned if the kick is deflected (even outside the arc) then it's just a 1 pointer.

Illogical!

Just like removing the 4 point goal whilst retaining the 2 pointer (because of fears that scores might get out of hand).

And of course allowing some technical fouls to be brought back outside the arc to avail of the 2 point option if desired.


7 goals in 5 division one games to date - worth keeping an eye on how this develops with the reduced incentive to work a goal.

[Armagh18]

Where has this narrative about Armagh's lack of strength in depth come from? Or worse, the narrative that their strength in depth is underestimated?

A massive chunk of the discourse last year was around the options McGeeney had to bring on in games. Soupy, McQuillan, Duffy, Nugent etc.

there was plenty of interviews last year where lads were saying the B team won most of the in house games and I'd well believe it. See Farrell and McGuinness talking about a possible 6th sub rule to lessen the load on players. Would suit us well.

[Armagh18]

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

Fitzmaurice has definitely mentioned if the kick is deflected (even outside the arc) then it's just a 1 pointer.

Illogical!

Just like removing the 4 point goal whilst retaining the 2 pointer (because of fears that scores might get out of hand).

And of course allowing some technical fouls to be brought back outside the arc to avail of the 2 point option if desired.


7 goals in 5 division one games to date - worth keeping an eye on how this develops with the reduced incentive to work a goal.

I think if the space is there teams will work the goal chance. Tyrone had one saved last night, we had one saved and I think Grugan put one over the bar but yeah interesting to see how it will go.

[onefineday]

I watched a good bit of it and didn't see much to rave about compared to before. Ciaran Kilkenny did kick a two pointer that you would never previously have seen him go for.

Not according to rte, you gotta get with the programme gallsman.

FT: Donegal 0-20 Dublin 0-16

That would have to count as an excellent advertisement for the new rules. A super game of football for February 1!