NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

Blowitupref

10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

statto

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Could have had Armagh Galway at 4.00pm and made a "Super Saturday" out of this on TV.  Last years AI finalists and then a big Derby in Ulster would have had alot of neutrals wanting to watch especially given the massive rule changes. 

seafoid

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Beware Dublin at 6/1

tbrick18

Quote from: statto on January 15, 2025, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Could have had Armagh Galway at 4.00pm and made a "Super Saturday" out of this on TV.  Last years AI finalists and then a big Derby in Ulster would have had alot of neutrals wanting to watch especially given the massive rule changes. 

Also the side plot of Mal O'Rourke taking over in Tyrone having left Glen, and Tyrone man Tally taking over in Derry.

Armagh18

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 15, 2025, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: statto on January 15, 2025, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Could have had Armagh Galway at 4.00pm and made a "Super Saturday" out of this on TV.  Last years AI finalists and then a big Derby in Ulster would have had alot of neutrals wanting to watch especially given the massive rule changes. 

Also the side plot of Mal O'Rourke taking over in Tyrone having left Glen, and Tyrone man Tally taking over in Derry.

Yeah plenty of interesting stories, any of the 8 teams could probably beat each other on a given day.

How close are the league finals to championship this year?

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 

Once things get up and running you'll hear of plenty in the media saying Donegal,Derry,Galway,Mayo won't want to reach the final.  Ridiculous that at least a two week gap isn't in place between the championship and league finals but it appears to be HQ way showing no respect to the provincial councils.

Armagh18

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2025, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 

Once things get up and running you'll hear of plenty in the media saying Donegal,Derry,Galway,Mayo won't want to reach the final.  Ridiculous that at least a two week gap isn't in place between the championship and league finals but it appears to be HQ way showing no respect to the provincial councils.
None of them are going to care too much about getting to a league final then, especially given how the league finalists went the last couple of years come summer tine

Mario

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2025, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 

Once things get up and running you'll hear of plenty in the media saying Donegal,Derry,Galway,Mayo won't want to reach the final.  Ridiculous that at least a two week gap isn't in place between the championship and league finals but it appears to be HQ way showing no respect to the provincial councils.
None of them are going to care too much about getting to a league final then, especially given how the league finalists went the last couple of years come summer tine
Armagh did alright

Armagh18

Quote from: Mario on January 15, 2025, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2025, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 

Once things get up and running you'll hear of plenty in the media saying Donegal,Derry,Galway,Mayo won't want to reach the final.  Ridiculous that at least a two week gap isn't in place between the championship and league finals but it appears to be HQ way showing no respect to the provincial councils.
None of them are going to care too much about getting to a league final then, especially given how the league finalists went the last couple of years come summer tine
Armagh did alright
D1 obviously. Derry and Dublin was a cracker and most people thought those 2 would meet in the All Ireland. Armagh Donegal was a brutal game and no one expected much from either team after it particularly us.  Then both us and Donegal hockeyed Derry within less than 2 months lol

armaghniac

Quote from: Mario on January 15, 2025, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2025, 07:00:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PMHow close are the league finals to championship this year?

Div 1 league final on March 30th and Championship starts the following weekend April 5th,6th

Donegal v Derry play that weekend as does Mayo v Sligo and Galway have to fly out to New York. 

Once things get up and running you'll hear of plenty in the media saying Donegal,Derry,Galway,Mayo won't want to reach the final.  Ridiculous that at least a two week gap isn't in place between the championship and league finals but it appears to be HQ way showing no respect to the provincial councils.
None of them are going to care too much about getting to a league final then, especially given how the league finalists went the last couple of years come summer tine
Armagh did alright

That was a Div 2 final, being in that is a positive.
If you are a contender for Sam then winning Div 2 should not be gruelling, you should be able to rotate players and that kind of thing. But you still win and have forward momentum.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

tbrick18

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 15, 2025, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: statto on January 15, 2025, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Could have had Armagh Galway at 4.00pm and made a "Super Saturday" out of this on TV.  Last years AI finalists and then a big Derby in Ulster would have had alot of neutrals wanting to watch especially given the massive rule changes. 

Also the side plot of Mal O'Rourke taking over in Tyrone having left Glen, and Tyrone man Tally taking over in Derry.

Yeah plenty of interesting stories, any of the 8 teams could probably beat each other on a given day.

How close are the league finals to championship this year?

I think in Div 1 this year, Derry and Tyrone are almost 2 complete unknowns.
New management for both.
Derry's collapse last year didn't show the true quality there I believe, but difficult to know if the new manager and change of rules will help or hinder us.
Tyrone believe they have the players to be a top top side, that's debatable in my view given that their better players are still the older ones. The new manager will be a definite plus point. The new rules might suit Tyrone better than most with the agility of the canavans up front.

So loads of question marks over both teams at this stage.

Donegal with Murphy back - remains to be seen what he can bring to the stage at his age, but you can't rule them out with McGuinness being there.

Dublin - we're all waiting for their demise, but even with retirements and a changing of the guard, they are still formidable.

Mayo - will probably be Mayo.

Galway - will feel they had bad luck with injuries last year and will focus on getting players fit for championship so they can give it a rattle. Been knocking on the door of Sam for a while now, you feel it's this year or never for them.

Kerry are always a threat particularly with the Cliffords. Slight change to management structure but I can't see wholesale changes to them. New rules might really suit them with the forwards at their disposal and the ability to hit 2 pointers.

Armagh - 2 in a row? I reckon in the league they'll be happy to retain Div 1 status (as will all teams). Will recent "issues" on a team holiday affect the camp? Will they have the hunger to do it again?

Based on how last year finished up, you'd have to say 2 of Derry, Tyrone and Mayo are favourites for the drop.

JoG2

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 16, 2025, 09:37:56 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2025, 04:52:34 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 15, 2025, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: statto on January 15, 2025, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM10 days away.

To win the title Paddy Power odds.

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Galway 5/1
Armagh 11/2
Dublin 6/1
Tyrone 13/2
Derry 9/1
Mayo 11/1

Opening round of games

Saturday 25th

Galway v Armagh - 5:15pm
Tyrone v Derry - 6pm
Dublin v Mayo  - 7:30pm

Sunday 26th

Kerry v Donegal - 1:45pm

Could have had Armagh Galway at 4.00pm and made a "Super Saturday" out of this on TV.  Last years AI finalists and then a big Derby in Ulster would have had alot of neutrals wanting to watch especially given the massive rule changes. 

Also the side plot of Mal O'Rourke taking over in Tyrone having left Glen, and Tyrone man Tally taking over in Derry.

Yeah plenty of interesting stories, any of the 8 teams could probably beat each other on a given day.

How close are the league finals to championship this year?

I think in Div 1 this year, Derry and Tyrone are almost 2 complete unknowns.
New management for both.
Derry's collapse last year didn't show the true quality there I believe, but difficult to know if the new manager and change of rules will help or hinder us.
Tyrone believe they have the players to be a top top side, that's debatable in my view given that their better players are still the older ones. The new manager will be a definite plus point. The new rules might suit Tyrone better than most with the agility of the canavans up front.

So loads of question marks over both teams at this stage.

Donegal with Murphy back - remains to be seen what he can bring to the stage at his age, but you can't rule them out with McGuinness being there.

Dublin - we're all waiting for their demise, but even with retirements and a changing of the guard, they are still formidable.

Mayo - will probably be Mayo.

Galway - will feel they had bad luck with injuries last year and will focus on getting players fit for championship so they can give it a rattle. Been knocking on the door of Sam for a while now, you feel it's this year or never for them.

Kerry are always a threat particularly with the Cliffords. Slight change to management structure but I can't see wholesale changes to them. New rules might really suit them with the forwards at their disposal and the ability to hit 2 pointers.

Armagh - 2 in a row? I reckon in the league they'll be happy to retain Div 1 status (as will all teams). Will recent "issues" on a team holiday affect the camp? Will they have the hunger to do it again?

Based on how last year finished up, you'd have to say 2 of Derry, Tyrone and Mayo are favourites for the drop.

I'd agree with alot of this. Re the league, Armagh and probably Mayo for the drop. Armagh will fall off a cliff Derry style in '25.

Picking a winner is like pulling the name out of a hat.

Picking a winner of Sam, Kerry or Galway for me this year.
The rest will

Armagh18

Honestly not sure what way we'll go. Don't underestimate the hurt Geezer has from '03 and never winning Sam again as a player.

Think getting over the quarter final hoodoo with Roscommon, then beating a top top team in Kerry and then obviously winning Sam itself with the latter 2 games going down to the wire will have done wonders for the team in terms of mentality and belief.

Could also see us understandably struggling to get back to the levels we were at which required unreal amounts of buy in and effort. Do think we have the players that will suit the new rules, but I'm sure alot of teams be thinking the same. Our fitness and bench will again be a strength I think. Obviously the off field stuff isn't ideal but would trust Geezer to handle it right and not let it affect things as much as is possible.

Think we'll stay up and hopefully this could be the year we finally get over the line in Ulster. As for the All Ireland, I'm sure we'll get to a quarter final at least and after that who knows, think it will take a very good team to beat us.