Rory Gallagher

[ElJeffe]

Interestingly statistics would show there are multiple men up and down the country who are involved in coaching and playing who have convictions and have been interviewed under caution etc but people are not calling for their heads.

At the end of the day RG was interviewed for various accusations. The courts decided there was no case to answer. That's it, end of.

He has every right to defend his name and coach in GAA if he wants.

Trail by social media.

As my point above... how many players are playing and men are coaching who have been accused of crimes, done interviews under caution etc they are not even obligated to disclose but RG is hung out to dry because his ex partner put up a social media post... no case to answer yet here we are convicting him.

He has no case to answer and that's the bottom line. Move on.

[Mario]

Most people in here seem to think he should be allowed to coach again. Is there a change in public opinion happening? Or gaa public anyway

[Gael-in-exile]

As an outside observer to this I was shocked by some of what was quoted as being part of the e-mail from Jarlath Burns.
Does this mean that everyone with convictions (or even accusations but no charges) relating to people be deemed not suitable by the GAA?
There's a high profile case of an inter county hurler with a conviction for assault but he is allowed to take a hurl onto a pitch and play an aggressive game. I have no issue with that but should Jarlath if he was being fair across the board?

Should companies who support the highlighting of these issues refuse to employ some? Where does it stop? Is banning people for mistakes made going to improve the scenarios? Where does the level of ban start/stop based on offences?

One way to possibly help this is for RG to take part in a course relating to the behaviour he was accused of - would this be deemed suitable to show he is aiming to be a better person??
Although that may be deemed an acceptance of guilt to the behaviour and thus not suit the person involved. .

[tyrone08]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

[Saffron_sam20]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

where do we draw the line though? plenty of people have been convicted served their time and should reintegrate to society, that includes GAA. we constantly hear about people who have turned their life around etc. just think its messy

[JoG2]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

A community organisation and what, someone has a conviction and that's it as far as the GAA goes? Should this be the same in wider society, no second chance in your opinion? No way to try and redemm yourself and do something positive? Leaves people doing / contributing what for the remainder of their lives?

[tyrone08]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

A community organisation and what, someone has a conviction and that's it as far as the GAA goes? Should this be the same in wider society, no second chance in your opinion? No way to try and redemm yourself and do something positive? Leaves people doing / contributing what for the remainder of their lives?

Obviously depends on the convention but is someone with a serious assualt convention or someone with a sexual offence really someone you want kids cheering on and looking up to?

[tyrone08]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

where do we draw the line though? plenty of people have been convicted served their time and should reintegrate to society, that includes GAA. we constantly hear about people who have turned their life around etc. just think its messy

It is very tricky but in the gaa we have players who nearly killed ones in street fights and on the pitch we had fights and eye goughing which is going to leave someone seriously injured in the future.

On the other side of the argument do we as a organization just accept everyone and anyone no matter what they have done?

[JoG2]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

A community organisation and what, someone has a conviction and that's it as far as the GAA goes? Should this be the same in wider society, no second chance in your opinion? No way to try and redemm yourself and do something positive? Leaves people doing / contributing what for the remainder of their lives?

Obviously depends on the convention but is someone with a serious assualt convention or someone with a sexual offence really someone you want kids cheering on and looking up to?

Who has a serious sexual assault conviction that is currently playing / managing? There must be some, I personally wouldn't know any

[tyrone08]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

A community organisation and what, someone has a conviction and that's it as far as the GAA goes? Should this be the same in wider society, no second chance in your opinion? No way to try and redemm yourself and do something positive? Leaves people doing / contributing what for the remainder of their lives?

Obviously depends on the convention but is someone with a serious assualt convention or someone with a sexual offence really someone you want kids cheering on and looking up to?

Who has a serious sexual assault conviction that is currently playing / managing? There must be some, I personally wouldn't know any

Not sure if there is anyone currently or not. It was an example but depending on the current ongoing there maybe one.

Burns opened up a can of worms with this one but doesnt mean it wasnt the right decision.

[tbrick18]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

A community organisation and what, someone has a conviction and that's it as far as the GAA goes? Should this be the same in wider society, no second chance in your opinion? No way to try and redemm yourself and do something positive? Leaves people doing / contributing what for the remainder of their lives?

Obviously depends on the convention but is someone with a serious assualt convention or someone with a sexual offence really someone you want kids cheering on and looking up to?

Of course not, but where or how in the GAA can we compare one crime with another?
Does Assault trump death by dangerous driving? OR Drunk driving? Or Fraud? Or tax evasion?
And in the RG case, there is no legal conviction - so how do they manage that?
Regardless of what people "know" was happening for years, the line in the sand has to be legal convictions and even then the current GAA regs have no capacity to assess this. All we have is the safeguarding guidelines.
Any other approach just leaves it open to interpretation and means anyone could allege anything potentially resulting in informal exclusion from the organisation.

[ElJeffe]

Not sure what to think about it all.

I have heard the stories about RG from neighbour's of his years before it broke on the news. Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Many of the examples about players guilty of assaults were well before burns took over however now that he has stepped in he needs to continue it especially with the recent armagh player.

Its probably about time the gaa took a stand on players with criminal convictions as its not a good look for the organization and we need to be setting examples for the younger players on however it needs to be across the board.

What .... ?
Just because he wasnt found guilty doesnt mean he is innocent, there is a huge difference.

Forgive me but this would be my belief.. he is innocent until proven guilty. That's our legal system and is mostly around the world ... you want to say he is not innocent? How does that work Explain ....
Would that not be defamatory?

[nrico2006]

Gallagher is innocent of the alleged crimes. Unless he is found guilty.

[Wildweasel74]

G, I played with a man caught with ashit load of semtex in the house, could cleaned out the whole housing estate. Plus done for armed robbery too. Same man played for 5/6yrs in the Derry league after a long spell in jail. Should everybody just have turned there back on him. There were alot more hard-line men playing then, who I say still involved in GAA clubs in Derry. Wheres the line here. Surely a man needs to be convicted of a serious offence to be debarred. And a list of those offences would need be in the GAA handbook on what is a category to debar.

[tiempo]

The example while tragic is more than appropriate

Having just fucked up the football rules JB is presenting as quite the extremist