Rory Gallagher

[Cavan19]

The GAA themselves said Gallagher was free to coach but Burns says otherwise ? Did he contact Clonduff last year ?

He's still with Clonduff this year

How many clubs is this grafter with i presume Banty still has him with Corduff aswell.

[tbrick18]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

[bogball88]

The question I have for Naas is this. They are going for 5 in a row in Kildare and have the same manager on board this year. Surely they are good enough to have another successful year without the need to pay for Gallagher to come in, along with the negative publicity this would involve?

[Saffron_sam20]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Nail on head, Burns overstepped and has opened a can of worms. seen on twitter under articles a lot of people making reference to Kyle Hayes being nominated for an all star yet was a ball hair away from jail for GBH. but that seems fine. Really double standards. also seems the higher the profile makes you fair game, doesnt sit right with me at all.

I dont know if RG publicly ever denied the accusations, but again, thats not the smoking gun people think it is. Id be sure his legal representatives told him to say nothing at all.

[93-DY-SAM]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

[Armaghtothebone]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

Burns is president of the Organisation. As such he has to look big picture all the time.
Gallagher ( whilst not found guilty in a court) is toxic.
The optics are terrible, should he be in any high profile position.
Burns is looking out for the entire Organisation.
We ( ordinary members) have no ide of what goes on at the highest level.
For all we know o e of the big sponsors may have said they will pull their sponsorship.
Imagine for a second how that would play out.

On a personal level Burns may even have some syfor Gallagher ( as he has never been prosecuted never mind found guilty) but as president he always has to be aware of what is best( and equally important), looks best for the organisation.

Wouldn't take the gift of GAA president ( even with free All-Ireland tickets!)

[Saffron_sam20]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

Burns is president of the Organisation. As such he has to look big picture all the time.
Gallagher ( whilst not found guilty in a court) is toxic.
The optics are terrible, should he be in any high profile position.
Burns is looking out for the entire Organisation.
We ( ordinary members) have no ide of what goes on at the highest level.
For all we know o e of the big sponsors may have said they will pull their sponsorship.
Imagine for a second how that would play out.

On a personal level Burns may even have some syfor Gallagher ( as he has never been prosecuted never mind found guilty) but as president he always has to be aware of what is best( and equally important), looks best for the organisation.

Wouldn't take the gift of GAA president ( even with free All-Ireland tickets!)

so he can pick and choose where he gets involved based on social media? Sound.

[tbrick18]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

Burns is president of the Organisation. As such he has to look big picture all the time.
Gallagher ( whilst not found guilty in a court) is toxic.
The optics are terrible, should he be in any high profile position.
Burns is looking out for the entire Organisation.
We ( ordinary members) have no ide of what goes on at the highest level.
For all we know o e of the big sponsors may have said they will pull their sponsorship.
Imagine for a second how that would play out.

On a personal level Burns may even have some syfor Gallagher ( as he has never been prosecuted never mind found guilty) but as president he always has to be aware of what is best( and equally important), looks best for the organisation.

Wouldn't take the gift of GAA president ( even with free All-Ireland tickets!)

Toxic based on what? Social media claims? But not innocent based on investigations by the authorities?

The brave position for the GAA president to take would be to call that out - publicly state that in line with legal advice there is no lawful impediment to him being involved. The GAA should follow their own regulations and the law of the land. If that is not enough, then new regulations need to be introduced and voted in at Congress to handle this type of scenario.

I agree with what you're saying though in that he has to take the big picture view on what's best for the entire GAA, but there is still due process and you can't make it up as you go.
If there was a GAA regulation that could be cited, then perhaps but that doesnt seem to be the case here. I think he has made a huge error of judgement here.

He's bowing down to the furore instigated on social media. What he should be saying to all members is that the GAA won't tolerate any members of the association targeting other members due to social media claims.

I think there is confusion around the issue here in that there is a perception that if the GAA allow RG to be appointed to a role that in some way they are condoning domestic abuse. But I think RG should be able to be appointed and the GAA can still be vocal against domestic abuse. The two can be separated easily - if guilty of the crime then expulsion from all GAA activities, if being investigated for it then suspension pending outcome, otherwise what grounds can an inclusive organisation like the GAA have here? Even with this approach, there probably needs to be new regulations created - and where do we draw the line on what crimes require expulsion? Theft? GBH? Abuse? Former paramilitary? It's a slippery slope.

[tiempo]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

Burns is president of the Organisation. As such he has to look big picture all the time.
Gallagher ( whilst not found guilty in a court) is toxic.
The optics are terrible, should he be in any high profile position.
Burns is looking out for the entire Organisation.
We ( ordinary members) have no ide of what goes on at the highest level.
For all we know o e of the big sponsors may have said they will pull their sponsorship.
Imagine for a second how that would play out.

On a personal level Burns may even have some syfor Gallagher ( as he has never been prosecuted never mind found guilty) but as president he always has to be aware of what is best( and equally important), looks best for the organisation.

Wouldn't take the gift of GAA president ( even with free All-Ireland tickets!)

Toxic based on what? Social media claims? But not innocent based on investigations by the authorities?

The brave position for the GAA president to take would be to call that out - publicly state that in line with legal advice there is no lawful impediment to him being involved. The GAA should follow their own regulations and the law of the land. If that is not enough, then new regulations need to be introduced and voted in at Congress to handle this type of scenario.

I agree with what you're saying though in that he has to take the big picture view on what's best for the entire GAA, but there is still due process and you can't make it up as you go.
If there was a GAA regulation that could be cited, then perhaps but that doesnt seem to be the case here. I think he has made a huge error of judgement here.

He's bowing down to the furore instigated on social media. What he should be saying to all members is that the GAA won't tolerate any members of the association targeting other members due to social media claims.

I think there is confusion around the issue here in that there is a perception that if the GAA allow RG to be appointed to a role that in some way they are condoning domestic abuse. But I think RG should be able to be appointed and the GAA can still be vocal against domestic abuse. The two can be separated easily - if guilty of the crime then expulsion from all GAA activities, if being investigated for it then suspension pending outcome, otherwise what grounds can an inclusive organisation like the GAA have here? Even with this approach, there probably needs to be new regulations created - and where do we draw the line on what crimes require expulsion? Theft? GBH? Abuse? Former paramilitary? It's a slippery slope.

Just wait til the LGFA get their feet under the table, you ain't seen nothing yet

[statto]

Wonder if Burns will speak up if a certain former Armagh captain remains on the panel this season.

Don't think you are going to have a problem with this one..

[statto]

The question I have for Naas is this. They are going for 5 in a row in Kildare and have the same manager on board this year. Surely they are good enough to have another successful year without the need to pay for Gallagher to come in, along with the negative publicity this would involve?

They probably think RG will give them an extra push for Leinster/AI honours. 

[tyroneStatto]

Even with this approach, there probably needs to be new regulations created - and where do we draw the line on what crimes require expulsion? Theft? GBH? Abuse? Former paramilitary? It's a slippery slope.

While this guy has been allowed to manage in the SPL

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/gangster-tv-lured-livi-manger-28188409

[93-DY-SAM]

Burns has overstepped the mark here. Its not up to him to dictate to clubs who involved with them. He had some fun with some men playing in Derry years ago who done serious time. We had player troubles in the county, plus few from Limerick. He stayed dead silence on the issue in the Armagh county team. Does he weight in when it suits him, when he can't sort out the gaa rule book on discipline issues. He want to change the name of certain clubs based on who they named after nxt?

Agree with this.
He shouldn't have a say in who a club chooses in their management teams.

Listening to the radio (or wireless as my Da would say) yesterday, Gallagher was never even charged let alone been to court to be found "not guilty". He has also denied the allegations, according to the radio. Some of the commentary I've seen on here seem make a big deal about him not denying it - well according to the radio report I heard yesterday, I think on Radio Ulster, it seems he did.

Which makes this all the more ridiculous.
Allegations made against a man by his ex-wife. Man is investigated by authorities and not charged and has custody of his children.
However, the general public have him guilty as they "know" he did it.
Does this not sound absolutely bonkers?

Yet there are many people involved in GAA with criminal convictions for all sorts of crimes, but they are still involved. But that's ok somehow? Is Burns going to make it his mission to get rid of anyone from the GAA with any sort of allegations made against them? Then he'd have to follow through and get rid of members, participants with criminal records too surely? It's telling that he hasn't mentioned the incident within the Armagh camp too. What's his stance there? The fact that the GAA themselves could not maintain a ban on him coaching lends even more weight to this being something Burns should not have been doing.

I've said it before, if guilty I wouldn't have RG near the place and deserves prison time. There's no place for domestic abuse in society and should be deplored.
But we have to accept the findings of due process and treat as innocent, otherwise its just lynch mob justice.

Would you quit with all that common sense. No place for that on social media!!

Burns is president of the Organisation. As such he has to look big picture all the time.
Gallagher ( whilst not found guilty in a court) is toxic.
The optics are terrible, should he be in any high profile position.
Burns is looking out for the entire Organisation.
We ( ordinary members) have no ide of what goes on at the highest level.
For all we know o e of the big sponsors may have said they will pull their sponsorship.
Imagine for a second how that would play out.

On a personal level Burns may even have some syfor Gallagher ( as he has never been prosecuted never mind found guilty) but as president he always has to be aware of what is best( and equally important), looks best for the organisation.

Wouldn't take the gift of GAA president ( even with free All-Ireland tickets!)

so he can pick and choose where he gets involved based on social media? Sound.

This ^^^^^^

Can someone provide the rest of us with an exhaustive list of all the types of cases where the president should get involved?

[tyroneStatto]

Just wait til the LGFA get their feet under the table, you ain't seen nothing yet

I suspect you could be right. was all for the merger myself but think it could now end up being more trouble than it's worth.

[GraceO’Malley]

Just wait til the LGFA get their feet under the table, you ain't seen nothing yet

I suspect you could be right. was all for the merger myself but think it could now end up being more trouble than it's worth.

God forbid, these women might voice an opinion.