Ulster Club SFC 2024

[general_lee]

Have to laugh at the comments on here.  Of course TK was targeted in much the same way as the Dubs or Kerry would do.  At one point TK was over mouthing at mcginley as well. 
At ht it only looked like a matter of time before he got sent so why risk it with that challenge.
As for the match itself, I don't think the CE all-stars stood up in this game.  A bit more from them and CE could have won.  No doubt RC was the difference

Losing Owens before the match and McCarthy during it didn't help CE's cause. The TK sending off was technically correct, but harsh in the context of how the match was being refereed. If I was from CE I'd be livid. A deliberate pull-down (pulled by the shorts and Daniel Magee ended up on the deck - is that not a black card offence?) Another 3rd man tackle ignored and no3 for EC escaping a yellow (booked another player instead). Apart from Turbitt who was quiete I thought CE's county players played well.

[general_lee]

Thought CE no 11 McGee played fairly well. Did he ever get a look with the county?

He's on the extended panel.

[naka]

Thought red harsh on tk given the goading he was receiving and considering some of the other challenges etc.
Definitely thought ref let a few things go and was extremely poor .
Tight game and the Canavans stood up well , both are extremely talented.
For me kilcoo will have the measure of Errigal  Ciaran .

[Onthe40]

Have to laugh at the comments on here.  Of course TK was targeted in much the same way as the Dubs or Kerry would do.  At one point TK was over mouthing at mcginley as well. 
At ht it only looked like a matter of time before he got sent so why risk it with that challenge.
As for the match itself, I don't think the CE all-stars stood up in this game.  A bit more from them and CE could have won.  No doubt RC was the difference

Losing Owens before the match and McCarthy during it didn't help CE's cause. The TK sending off was technically correct, but harsh in the context of how the match was being refereed. If I was from CE I'd be livid. A deliberate pull-down (pulled by the shorts and Daniel Magee ended up on the deck - is that not a black card offence?) Another 3rd man tackle ignored and no3 for EC escaping a yellow (booked another player instead). Apart from Turbitt who was quiete I thought CE's county players played well.

Absolutely CE needed more out of Turbitt to win the game...  Mccambridge & Kelly (when on the field) were excellent..cant really recall Turbitt doing much other then the dead ball scores and one good run early on

[Armamike]

Bitter enough defeat for Clann Eireann. Had it in their grasp to win it.  The county players are probably sick of football at this stage of the year.  Shouldn't be surprised by Joe McQuillan anymore. The Canavans are clinical with their shooting. 

[imtommygunn]

Turbitt did score a good point from play in the first half and hit the post when they should have scored that goal.

He was ok but you'd expect a lot more from an all star.

Bit disappointed in both teams tbh as they don't look like teams who could challenge Kilcoo. EC very dependent on Canavans which is fine but there was a lack of willingness from some of their players to shoot in scenarios where they really should have. It'll be interesting to see what Kilcoo have in store for the Canavans.

[tiempo]

Turbitt did score a good point from play in the first half and hit the post when they should have scored that goal.

He was ok but you'd expect a lot more from an all star.

Bit disappointed in both teams tbh as they don't look like teams who could challenge Kilcoo. EC very dependent on Canavans which is fine but there was a lack of willingness from some of their players to shoot in scenarios where they really should have. It'll be interesting to see what Kilcoo have in store for the Canavans.

Kicked a 45 wide in the first half that seemed very nonchalant, like there was no expectation to score, content tapping it wide, i'm sure he would've put a bit more effort in had it been last kick of the game to level or win. The same approach worked for the penalty as clearly distance wasn't an issue, but if he felt the 45 wasn't scorable himself he should have passed it over to someone else to have a proper go - he looked lively enough but maybe not suited to winter football

[gallsman]

I don't remember Turbitt scoring from play but he created a few for others. ITG are you sure you're not thinking of his shot that came off the post for the goal chance that was spurned?

The 45 attempt was very poor. Camera was right behind it. Don't recall seeing him hit any for Armagh as it's usually O'Neill so don't know if he has it in his locker or not but he didn't look confident at all and it was ten yards wide from the moment it left his boot.

[imtommygunn]

Hmmm I do appear to be wrong and must have been the post effort. He wasn't fantastic regardless.

[shawshank]

This game for CE was lost on two v specific stages, 1. missing the gl sitter 2. the sending off, never a second yellow especially when you benchmark it against very similar tackles where the yellow was not produced, ref definitely influenced by the EC players who TK had upset in some way prior to that tackle.
R Canavan was excellent on the day. The difference, but i think CE with the full compliment would have won. This is how refs serious effect results. Not suggestion it was deliberate, but the lack of consistency would sicken ye.

[tiempo]

This game for CE was lost on two v specific stages, 1. missing the gl sitter 2. the sending off, never a second yellow especially when you benchmark it against very similar tackles where the yellow was not produced, ref definitely influenced by the EC players who TK had upset in some way prior to that tackle.
R Canavan was excellent on the day. The difference, but i think CE with the full compliment would have won. This is how refs serious effect results. Not suggestion it was deliberate, but the lack of consistency would sicken ye.

Incompetent more like, far from ideal for a game of such significance

[Milltown Row2]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

[Armagh18]

Think Ryan Owens was a massive miss as well, probably would be an ideal man for picking up Canavan. McCarthy injury was a blow too of course. 

[armaghniac]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

The sending off was because of the second yellow card which was fairly routine foul, not as a result of targeting. The issue arises though that there were many fouls more serious than that one that were not penalised.

[Milltown Row2]

Didn't see the second half so not commentating on the sending off

But if you view it from three different views

Manager of the opposing team.. target him, if he gets a second yellow he's off, he gets wound up easy enough so might react to something and going into the final minutes of the game it gives us a huge advantage

Manager of CE... right we maybe need to take him off, I'd rather have 15 players on the pitch going into the final stages of this game, and they'll pick on him, so lets get him off before he's sent off

The player on the yellow... I've got to time it right, I must not react to this, I'll let the ref know that I'm being held or pulled or whatever (don't give off to him as that will have the opposite effect)

Was there other yellow cards given and were they targeted?

The sending off was because of the second yellow card which was fairly routine foul, not as a result of targeting. The issue arises though that there were many fouls more serious than that one that were not penalised.

Well that's on him then, you look after your own is all you can do, the ref will do what he does and I can't get sent off, just reading some of the comments here, there seemed to be ones saying he was targeted