Inter-Provincial Series showcasing new rules..

Started by Blowitupref, October 16, 2024, 07:45:22 PM

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Jeepers Creepers

#195
Keeper not allowed out. And keep the 3 up front rule. Keep 3 points for a goal and introduce the long range kick award of 2 points. Midfield thing is ridiculous.
Foam spray a no brainer. Don't know why the ridicule  last night.

The Trap

Jeepers I agree with you.....if they have to make changes to appease the high powered frc then go with those

AustinPowers

I find it ironic (hopefully that's the correct use, must  check with Alanis), that two of the  Rules committee were responsible for  two of the biggest stinkfests in GAA history. 

Fitzmaurice stunk the  place out with his negative  bore v Donegal in 2014. Jim Gavin 's Dublin team  played piggy in the middle  with Tyrone for 70 minutes   in the 2018 semi.

Truthsayer

#198
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 05:25:21 PMI find it ironic (hopefully that's the correct use, must  check with Alanis), that two of the  Rules committee were responsible for  two of the biggest stinkfests in GAA history. 

Fitzmaurice stunk the  place out with his negative  bore v Donegal in 2014. Jim Gavin 's Dublin team  played piggy in the middle  with Tyrone for 70 minutes   in the 2018 semi.
Did Dublin not play Tyrone in 2018 final?
2017 Mickey Harte stunk the place out leaving Mark Bradley up on his own. Dublin hammered them

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 05:25:21 PMI find it ironic (hopefully that's the correct use, must  check with Alanis), that two of the  Rules committee were responsible for  two of the biggest stinkfests in GAA history. 

Fitzmaurice stunk the  place out with his negative  bore v Donegal in 2014. Jim Gavin 's Dublin team  played piggy in the middle  with Tyrone for 70 minutes  in the 2018 semi.

What Semi? We played Monaghan in the 2018 Semi?

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 05:35:51 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 05:25:21 PMI find it ironic (hopefully that's the correct use, must  check with Alanis), that two of the  Rules committee were responsible for  two of the biggest stinkfests in GAA history. 

Fitzmaurice stunk the  place out with his negative  bore v Donegal in 2014. Jim Gavin 's Dublin team  played piggy in the middle  with Tyrone for 70 minutes   in the 2018 semi.
Did Dublin not play Tyrone in 2018 final?
2017 Mickey Harte stunk the place out leaving Mark Bradley up on his own. Dublin hammered them

Yep, Dublin beat us 2-17 to 1-14 in the Final.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

AustinPowers

At least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

AustinPowers

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

Maybe he did  , but I  distinctly remember Dublin piggy-in-the-middle'd  Tyrone to death that day. It was clinical piggy in the middle tactics , but my God , it  bored the  arse off me

Truthsayer

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

Maybe he did  , but I  distinctly remember Dublin piggy-in-the-middle'd  Tyrone to death that day. It was clinical piggy in the middle tactics , but my God , it  bored the  arse off me
2-17 to 0-11.. I'd say Dubs were bored too. Ran rings round us

tonto1888

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

Maybe he did  , but I  distinctly remember Dublin piggy-in-the-middle'd  Tyrone to death that day. It was clinical piggy in the middle tactics , but my God , it  bored the  arse off me
2-17 to 0-11.. I'd say Dubs were bored too. Ran rings round us

If I remember right that game was over after about 15 mins

Truthsayer

Quote from: tonto1888 on October 20, 2024, 07:11:01 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

Maybe he did  , but I  distinctly remember Dublin piggy-in-the-middle'd  Tyrone to death that day. It was clinical piggy in the middle tactics , but my God , it  bored the  arse off me
2-17 to 0-11.. I'd say Dubs were bored too. Ran rings round us

If I remember right that game was over after about 15 mins
Bate out the gate. Poor Mark Bradley hung out to dry.. all alone up front while other 13 sat back 'defending'

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 20, 2024, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 06:28:50 PMAt least two  of you were paying attention . You passed my test  ;)

Must have been the  2017 semi then
:D  :D  Dublin beat Tyrone by about 12 points in 2017 semi-final with Harte playing Mark Bradley alone up front... that's hardly Jim Gavin stinking the place out. Go again..

Maybe he did  , but I  distinctly remember Dublin piggy-in-the-middle'd  Tyrone to death that day. It was clinical piggy in the middle tactics , but my God , it  bored the  arse off me

If Jim Mc Guinness or Mickey Harte were on that revised rules panel you'd have a stronger point. At least Jim Gavin acknowledges the error of his ways  ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Spiderlegs

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 12:50:47 AMThis handing the  ball to an opponent......

What if the opponent deliberately   drops the ball? Is it moved up  because the  opponent didn't  put it into his hands? Why not just drop the ball  where  the foul is blown?

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

Agree with Rian/Forker on the 4 point  goals........

  I recorded the match and watched it back. I actually had to pause it to add  up the scores . 

The lads on RTE  made a good point  re: the 3v3.  It actually pays to have the keeper up in opponents half , as it creates  an extra  man (with more space ). So if the Rules men had ideas about  hoping this  would  force keepers to stay in goal , it looks like it will have the opposite affect. Roaming keepers will become  even more  important 

The 2nd chance at a mark is the new rule - after meeting the criteria of the mark you then get a choice to play on for a shot at goal but defenders can tackle. If it doesn't go into the net or over the bar, it is taken back for the original mark. It is to give further incentive to the risk of playing a long high ball in towards the goals which has been deemed as happening too infrequently in the modern game.

It is not the intention of the FRC to force goalkeepers to stay in goal. It is the intention for the goalkeeper to not be used as a defensive outlet for easy "piggy in the middle". In their proposals they have deliberately made the rules so that he can join back into play after he crosses the half way line. This is to allow modern innovations to continue.

DuffleKing


The goalkeeper or defenders are not allowed to take a defensive mark under the proposed rules. There's leaning towards the attacker and then there's taking the piss out of the defenders!

Smokin Joe

Quote from: Spiderlegs on October 21, 2024, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 20, 2024, 12:50:47 AMThis handing the  ball to an opponent......

What if the opponent deliberately  drops the ball? Is it moved up  because the  opponent didn't  put it into his hands? Why not just drop the ball  where  the foul is blown?

What's this about the attacking  mark , and getting a 2nd chance?........

Connacht player caught  it, played on, shot, Morgan saved. Then he  was allowed to  take the mark  again? WTF?

Agree with Rian/Forker on the 4 point  goals........

  I recorded the match and watched it back. I actually had to pause it to add  up the scores . 

The lads on RTE  made a good point  re: the 3v3.  It actually pays to have the keeper up in opponents half , as it creates  an extra  man (with more space ). So if the Rules men had ideas about  hoping this  would  force keepers to stay in goal , it looks like it will have the opposite affect. Roaming keepers will become  even more  important 

The 2nd chance at a mark is the new rule - after meeting the criteria of the mark you then get a choice to play on for a shot at goal but defenders can tackle. If it doesn't go into the net or over the bar, it is taken back for the original mark. It is to give further incentive to the risk of playing a long high ball in towards the goals which has been deemed as happening too infrequently in the modern game.

It is not the intention of the FRC to force goalkeepers to stay in goal. It is the intention for the goalkeeper to not be used as a defensive outlet for easy "piggy in the middle". In their proposals they have deliberately made the rules so that he can join back into play after he crosses the half way line. This is to allow modern innovations to continue.

It is to allow the modern innovation of piggy in the middle in the attacking half by bringing the keeper up to join the attack so that the attacking team has a man extra.  If this stays the same we will see games next summer where teams will hold the ball in the attacking half for the final 5 minutes of a game to run the clock down as they have a plus one.  It will be virtually impossible for the defending team to disposses them. 
The only way to counteract that is for the keeper to move to corner backk, the corner back shifts out to half back and a hal back picks up the attacking keeper.  But surely the FRC can't say this is the remedy to the loophole they are creating?