Rory Gallagher

Started by toby47, August 14, 2024, 03:34:36 PM

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How would you feel about Rory Gallagher being appointed

Best case scenario - best man for the job!
7 (8.6%)
Would be happy enough - But would prefer someone else
4 (4.9%)
Don't think it's right - But would still go to games & support team etc
22 (27.2%)
Disgrace - Wouldn't support derry for as long as he's in charge
48 (59.3%)

Total Members Voted: 81

Voting closed: August 17, 2024, 03:34:36 PM

tbrick18

Quote from: Norm-Peterson on August 20, 2024, 02:49:13 AMI consider all the fuss virtue signaling. They talk about setting a good example yet they don't have a problem with McFaul representing Derry? I bet there are many ex paramilitary members in Derry GAA yet I bet you wouldn't have a problem with that? In fact the Intermediate championship is named after IRA volunteers. I am not saying I have a problem with that myself but it is important to point out your hypocrisy. Do you support violence or not? Make up your minds.

I am not convinced having Gallagher back would make a difference, people have short memories, his last big Croke Park games were a hammering against Dublin in Division 2 final and a poor performance against Galway. He had his chance in 2022.



I'd agree with a lot of this and have said similar before.
In this case it is alleged violence, no findings of guilt. There are many instances in the gaa of convicted players, management etc being involved in the organisation.
If we're making an example of someone now, it needs to be at HQ level with a set of regs as to who is and who is not eligible to be involved. Maybe that already exists?

Some people saying MOR would solve the problem, and I dont think there'd be many complaints if he got the role. But it just doesn't seem like he's interested. He'd know the players well and he's used to the Derry setup in terms of league/championship, he's a proven intercounty manager too and ticks all the boxes. But if he's not interested, there's nothing can be done about that.

In purely footballing terms RG is the best manager Derry have had in a very long time. In purely footballing terms, and not to be hypocritical about who can or should be involved with the county team, I'd have no issue with him being appointed. I agree though, having RG back is no guarantee of anything - Derry might have missed their opportunity.


Personally I'm not going to judge anyone without factually knowing details - and the only details I know are what was reported by the press. Not enough there to say with any certainty what did or did not happen in my opinion. But I appreciate others are led more by social media and word on the street. I just don't buy into the online "experts" who "know".

I've said before too, if guilty of the alleged claims, then prison is where he should be.



JoG2

Quote from: marty34 on August 20, 2024, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 20, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 19, 2024, 11:28:41 PMWasn't going to comment as think Armagh, Tyrone and Antrim have enough skeletons in the closet of our own. Antrim have their own RG situation with an older representative but not a peep about it. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

What i will say that regardless of what type of person he is, some contributors on here have him as this footballing visionary.  His tactics were the worst type of negative tripe and frankly horrible to watch.

The derry kerry game under ciaran meenagh was a completely different approach, more expansive and credit has to be given to ciaran for that.


Just be careful what you wish for.

Again, jibberish. You're making things up to suit your own feelings on the man. Ridiculous

Off topic a bit but there's some waffle on here about tactics and vision in terms of mangers etc.

The only mnager who changed up football was Jim Mc Guinness.

Other managers since have just copied and mirrored that tactic of 15 men behind the ball when out of possession.

It's glorified basketball.

By the chat on here you'd think managers have invented the wheel. 



You're a bit all over the shop here Marty, you talk about posters talking about tactics, which many are, then go say posters are saying managers have invented the wheel... That's some jump

The basketball bit is good. Derry under RG had morphed into a seriously fast attacking team, only Dublin could better them in this department and they were improving all the time.


Quote from: Norm-Peterson on August 20, 2024, 02:49:13 AMI am not convinced having Gallagher back would make a difference, people have short memories, his last big Croke Park games were a hammering against Dublin in Division 2 final and a poor performance against Galway. He had his chance in 2022.



I've a longer memory Norm, 1998 - 2022

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 20, 2024, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 19, 2024, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 19, 2024, 09:11:30 PMHe was on the line for Corduff last night... I think I've missed the outrage over that?? Can't see it anywhere for some reason!

That's an inconvenient truth I pointed out last night. If these people who are going to be protesting etc feel so strongly about it why aren't they protesting in Monaghan.

Maybe because it's a lot less high profile?

So out of sight out of mind - eh? Not sure how those so vocal about him potentially returning to Derry can square that one. Maybe it's not high profile enough for them to take any interest as it doesn't bolster their own ego or attempts at virtue signalling. 

rodney trotter

There was unrest but a lot of power from the Banty swayed it. He is the manager and 3 or 4 sons playing. His brother Pat is a selector.

Truthsayer

Quote from: rodney trotter on August 20, 2024, 02:39:43 PMThere was unrest but a lot of power from the Banty swayed it. He is the manager and 3 or 4 sons playing. His brother Pat is a selector.

What's the odds of RG and Banty racking up as Monaghan managers?

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 20, 2024, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 20, 2024, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 20, 2024, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 19, 2024, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 19, 2024, 09:11:30 PMHe was on the line for Corduff last night... I think I've missed the outrage over that?? Can't see it anywhere for some reason!

That's an inconvenient truth I pointed out last night. If these people who are going to be protesting etc feel so strongly about it why aren't they protesting in Monaghan.

Maybe because it's a lot less high profile?

So out of sight out of mind - eh? Not sure how those so vocal about him potentially returning to Derry can square that one. Maybe it's not high profile enough for them to take any interest as it doesn't bolster their own ego or attempts at virtue signalling. 
I believe there was unrest in Corduff bout it but a wealthy donor threatened to withdraw his support... they say.


I'm more talking about protests from all the keyboard warriors across all social media platforms and indeed this very board. Not much noise on him being called out at Corduff until he was back in the running for the Derry job. And all these people that at going to turn up protesting at Derry games if he gets the job. Do they need directions to get to Corduff or does it only count when it gets to county level?


tonto1888

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 20, 2024, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 20, 2024, 07:42:08 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 19, 2024, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 19, 2024, 09:11:30 PMHe was on the line for Corduff last night... I think I've missed the outrage over that?? Can't see it anywhere for some reason!

That's an inconvenient truth I pointed out last night. If these people who are going to be protesting etc feel so strongly about it why aren't they protesting in Monaghan.

Maybe because it's a lot less high profile?

So out of sight out of mind - eh? Not sure how those so vocal about him potentially returning to Derry can square that one. Maybe it's not high profile enough for them to take any interest as it doesn't bolster their own ego or attempts at virtue signalling. 

people in derry who may protest - and I stress may  - probably not aware of what os going on in the club scene in Monaghan though

Duine Inteacht Eile

Paddy Jackson was able to go and play professionally in France.
Yet, there was no chance of a return to Ulster or Ireland. Even London Irish proved troublesome.
He was also found not guilty.

marty34

Quote from: rodney trotter on August 20, 2024, 02:39:43 PMThere was unrest but a lot of power from the Banty swayed it. He is the manager and 3 or 4 sons playing. His brother Pat is a selector.

What league in Monaghan are Corduff in?

Truthsayer

Quote from: marty34 on August 20, 2024, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 20, 2024, 02:39:43 PMThere was unrest but a lot of power from the Banty swayed it. He is the manager and 3 or 4 sons playing. His brother Pat is a selector.

What league in Monaghan are Corduff in?
I take it they're senior they won the Intermediate championship two years ago #hail #hail

Derry Optimist

Truthsayer seems to be very definite as who will NOT become Derry's  new football manager. By the same token who does he think will become the manager?

NAG1

Quote from: shawshank on August 19, 2024, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh4sam2024 on August 19, 2024, 12:37:08 AMSo do you really think Eamonn Coleman,Patsy Breen, Jim McKeever and Seamus Heaney would endorse the appointment of Rory Gallagher as Doire manager??

What would it matter what Seamus Heaney thought ffs
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 19, 2024, 12:26:43 AMGallagher is quite a defensive manager. He got Derry competitive to a point,but in that All Ireland semi against Galway they looked clueless.

Would Conleith Gilligan not be a good fit for Derry?

Don't think he is ready for that role yet. Will likely get it in the future but not sure he is a number 1.

Asked the same question on the All Ireland final thread and no one could answer, what does CG actually bring to the set up?

God14

#117
Quote from: Truthsayer on August 20, 2024, 01:59:49 PMRory Gallagher will not be taking Derry. That's it.

I agree.

Since 30th June they've been plotting it. Nominations closed on 25th July. Yet here we are. When will the penny finally drop that this appointment is impossible

tbrick18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 20, 2024, 02:56:44 PMPaddy Jackson was able to go and play professionally in France.
Yet, there was no chance of a return to Ulster or Ireland. Even London Irish proved troublesome.
He was also found not guilty.

I can see why some make the comparison, but it's not the same scenario.
The Paddy Jackson case went to court when investigated - and the facts of the case were public record as a result. From memory, he didn't dispute what happened, only that it was consensual whereas the victim said it was not. 

The facts of the RG allegations are not public record as far as I'm aware, and the same public authorities have not seen fit to prosecute.

Whatever about the rights and wrongs in both cases, I don't think the fallout from the Paddy Jackson case should be a template for what happens in this RG case.

Wildweasel74

Tyronies should worry who there manager is,instead of polluting the Derry Thread. It might be O'Rourke, it might be Gallagher,who knows. M McGuinness admitted he was in the IRA and u all have voted for him in the morning, no matter the background.