Westminster General Election 2024

[RedHand88]

You can't reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount either. Yous are as bad as Bryson.

Here we go...it's sectarian that SF stand aside for progressive candiates in LV, EB and SB & MD etc? Is it?

No one mentioned religion...until a few people above mentioned it. Whay are they bringing religion into it?

Strange - shows up more about them than me.

Yes. It is a keep themmuns out mentality also shared by elements of hardline Loyalism.

Religion? Eh?? Sectarianism does not have to be about religion, so I have no idea where religion comes into it.

[imtommygunn]

I wouldn't agree with that at all. SF stood aside in one place so SDLP should stand aside in 3... I am not sure how that stacks up?

McDonnell won South Belfast twice with a SF candidate running against him and Hanna won last time out with a 16k+ majority over Pengelly and this time with 12k over Alliance. She'd still win it handily enough even if SF stood.

Yep.

[AustinPowers]

Right, Starmer......

Troubles Legacy Bill

Will he go back on  his word?

[Armagh18]

Looks like Reform won Labour the election moreso than Labour doing anything great.

[AustinPowers]

The Tory  scum  still behind the big black door.

Probably all going around knicking the lightbulbs,  bog  rolls and the  batteries out of the remote controls

Well , they've  plundered everything else...

Shower of gangsters

[marty34]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

There are alot of pro life nationalists about. They were ignored by SF and it has cost them an 8th seat.

No, there's not. Aontú's performance was brutal yesterday.  1% of the vote and down 0.2% in overall terms.

PBP got more votes than them and they only stood in a few areas. 

[Snapchap]

Yes. It is a keep themmuns out mentality also shared by elements of hardline Loyalism.

Religion? Eh?? Sectarianism does not have to be about religion, so I have no idea where religion comes into it.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but those who throw out the "sectarian headcount" line are talking through their hoop.

Having a view on the constitutional position of this place isn't sectarian. It's legitimate. Wanting as many political representatives as possible to be elected who best represesnt your constitutional preference also isn't sectarian. It's legitimate. Calling it sectarian is the laziest of lazy, cliched, nonsense soundbites.

[Armagh18]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

There are alot of pro life nationalists about. They were ignored by SF and it has cost them an 8th seat.

No, there's not. Aontú's performance was brutal yesterday.  1% of the vote and down 0.2% in overall terms.

PBP got more votes than them and they only stood in a few areas.

There are a lot but it's probably not that massive an issue that they'd bother voting for no hopers instead of SF/SDLP/Alliance.

[gallsman]

Looks like Reform won Labour the election moreso than Labour doing anything great.

Labour will also have bled a not inconsiderable number of votes to Reform but will have picked them up elsewhere from Tories.

There's an element of Labour having it handed to them on a platter but there's no way to spin it as anything other than total victory. It'll keep Starmer on his toes.

You'd be hopeful that the Reform vote won't stand the test of time. Tories will move to the right and take some of them back. Higher profile for Farage, Tice and 30p Lee etc should be exposed even more so for the goons they are.

[RedHand88]

Yes. It is a keep themmuns out mentality also shared by elements of hardline Loyalism.

Religion? Eh?? Sectarianism does not have to be about religion, so I have no idea where religion comes into it.

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but those who throw out the "sectarian headcount" line are talking through their hoop.

Having a view on the constitutional position of this place isn't sectarian. It's legitimate. Wanting as many political representatives as possible to be elected who best represesnt your constitutional preference also isn't sectarian. It's legitimate. Calling it sectarian is the laziest of lazy, cliched, nonsense soundbites.

No I'm sorry but it is. Reducing every single candidate to an ussun or themmuns based on what community they are from and throwing a strop because other ussuns didn't row in behind you to get rid of themmuns is absolutely 100% trying to reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount.

The constitutional question was not on the ballot paper yesterday!

[RedHand88]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

There are alot of pro life nationalists about. They were ignored by SF and it has cost them an 8th seat.

No, there's not. Aontú's performance was brutal yesterday.  1% of the vote and down 0.2% in overall terms.

PBP got more votes than them and they only stood in a few areas.

Probably right enough but there were enough in East Derry.

[Saffrongael]

There's 8 unionist MPs in total so you would have thought this was a unionist front? Alliance only got 1 seat which must be hugely disappointing to them.

9 nationalist 8 unionist and 1 alliance. Is that the correct reading of it?

In fairness think Alliance always going to get it tight in East Belfast and North Down.  Happy for Eastwood in Lagan Valley

Eastwood just another one looking for the higher MP salary

What makes you say that?  Would you rather some of the other candidates in LV got in?

That's two different, unrelated things, I could care less who gets in as none of them have any clout or influence in WM.

Eastwood the same as Swann, Nicholl in South Belfast & Claire Hanna previously - sitting MLAs that just want to get to Westminster for the vastly superior salary & expenses.

[general_lee]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

There are alot of pro life nationalists about. They were ignored by SF and it has cost them an 8th seat.

Not really, nobody could have predicted how close East Derry was.

[imtommygunn]

There's 8 unionist MPs in total so you would have thought this was a unionist front? Alliance only got 1 seat which must be hugely disappointing to them.

9 nationalist 8 unionist and 1 alliance. Is that the correct reading of it?

In fairness think Alliance always going to get it tight in East Belfast and North Down.  Happy for Eastwood in Lagan Valley

Eastwood just another one looking for the higher MP salary

What makes you say that?  Would you rather some of the other candidates in LV got in?

That's two different, unrelated things, I could care less who gets in as none of them have any clout or influence in WM.

Eastwood the same as Swann, Nicholl in South Belfast & Claire Hanna previously - sitting MLAs that just want to get to Westminster for the vastly superior salary & expenses.

On what basis have you formed that conclusion??

[Snapchap]

No I'm sorry but it is. Reducing every single candidate to an ussun or themmuns based on what community they are from and throwing a strop because other ussuns didn't row in behind you to get rid of themmuns is absolutely 100% trying to reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount.

The constitutional question was not on the ballot paper yesterday!

Neither did the ballot paper make any reference to religion or community. If you think unionists voting for unionist parties isn't based on their unionism, but just on sectarianism, or that people voting for republican/nationalist parties has nothing to do with them holding republican/nationalists views, then, again you're arrogantly talking through your hoop.

I've never voted for a republican candidate because said candidate wasn't a unionist, but because they were republican and as such best represented my legitimate repubican politics. That's not sectarianism. Ditto for those who vote unionist candidates.

Some folk just like to think they are somehow 'above' the constituional debate and take pleasure in slapping a "sectarian" label on absolutely everyone who is excercised by it.