Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

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Ethan Tremblay

Comer missing certainly tips the balance in Armagh's favor for sure, but there will be the bare minimum in this one. 

I think both teams coming away unscathed would be a victory in itself at this point considering they are both progressing through to knockout football. 

 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

statto

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 04, 2024, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2024, 06:14:24 PMDid McDaid spend much time at full forward on Sunday? Comer a huge loss, Armagh at even money with PP seems like a decent bet to me.


Cute hoorism in already;)

Mackin, O'Neill and Murnin 3 massive losses for us, but maybe we'll get Murnin back. Not sure who'll take Walsh, definitely miss Morgan for that job.  At least it can't go to penalties anyway.
McCambridge has probably done enough last week to get job.Marked Walsh well in league game last year too think may have kept him scoreless from play.

galwayman

You can't fancy Galway in any big game without Damo. He is that important to us.
The other two bucks big losses also - Finnerty especially as we only have three lads who can do damage on the scoreboard and himself and Comer are two of them.

SouthOfThe Bann

Armagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.

Captain Scarlet

What is the minimum for Geezer this year. Like if he had them last 4 would people be delighted?
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Blowitupref

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 04, 2024, 09:15:50 PMArmagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.
Bookies and punters are expecting the group winners to reach the last four.

Armagh couldn't have got any closer to semi finals the last two years with Quarter final penalty shoot out losses. Back in Div 1 again next year which will be their 4th year in the last 5 years in the top division the job and improvement McGeeney has brought to Armagh is underrated IMO.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 04, 2024, 09:15:50 PMArmagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.
One good game doesn't make us third favourites. As I said all along, theres not an awful pile between about half a dozen teams and Derry are included in that if they get their act together obviously.

Hopefully we take some confidence from that performance and push on. We've enough on the first team and on the bench in terms of skill, fitness and physicality to compete against everyone, we just need that rub of the green and abit more belief imo.

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 04, 2024, 09:24:50 PMWhat is the minimum for Geezer this year. Like if he had them last 4 would people be delighted?

We're not even in a quarter final yet so I suppose we need to be realistic and take one step at a time. Progress would obviously be a step further than last year so a semi final would be nice and once you're there anything can happen.

Armagh18

Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2024, 09:05:00 PMYou can't fancy Galway in any big game without Damo. He is that important to us.
The other two bucks big losses also - Finnerty especially as we only have three lads who can do damage on the scoreboard and himself and Comer are two of them.
Think in Croker that time we kept Walsh and Comer relatively quiet, Finnerty and your midfielders done the harm that day. I'd say both teams will be keen to get through this injury free given the big names both have lost.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 04, 2024, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 04, 2024, 09:15:50 PMArmagh are now 3rd favourites for the all Ireland with some bookies.

A meteoric rise in one weekend.

They've looked good in Ulster final and at the weekend.

But we need to be wary of recency bias.

Would love to see them get to a semi or final however.
Bookies and punters are expecting the group winners to reach the last four.

Armagh couldn't have got any closer to semi finals the last two years with Quarter final penalty shoot out losses. Back in Div 1 again next year which will be their 4th year in the last 5 years in the top division the job and improvement McGeeney has brought to Armagh is underrated IMO.

The funny thing is that Paddy Power have Armagh as favourites for the Galway game.

But Galway as 3rd favourites for All Ireland ahead of Armagh.

Boyle have Armagh at 3rd favourites however.

Paddy Power expecting the return of Comer and Finnerty in a last 12 game it seems.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 04, 2024, 09:24:50 PMWhat is the minimum for Geezer this year. Like if he had them last 4 would people be delighted?


I think the minimum was the Ulster championship given the draw we got.

Last 4 would be seen as progress from what he has delivered before, so I suppose by that reckoning that would be minimum expectations for most fans. 

The amount of noise heard after the ulster final about how he has taken the team as far as they can go etc was ridiculous, again anything less than progress wouldn't cut it for a lot of fans. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

AustinPowers

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 04, 2024, 09:24:50 PMWhat is the minimum for Geezer this year. Like if he had them last 4 would people be delighted?


Why would you be  delighted?  We're in the semis  lads, sure that'll do us.

If a team don't believe they can win Sam ,  why  are they even bothering?

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2024, 09:05:00 PMYou can't fancy Galway in any big game without Damo. He is that important to us.
The other two bucks big losses also - Finnerty especially as we only have three lads who can do damage on the scoreboard and himself and Comer are two of them.

Galway definitely not the same side without Comer. He's literally a difference maker. He raises the level of the players around him when he's on the pitch. Kelly and Finnerty serious losses as well. Finnerty is playing the best football of his career. Kelly not back to his best yet after his long injury but one of the best footballers in the country when he's 100%. Those are players you need going up against the best sides.

Armagh18

Quote from: AustinPowers on June 04, 2024, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 04, 2024, 09:24:50 PMWhat is the minimum for Geezer this year. Like if he had them last 4 would people be delighted?


Why would you be  delighted?  We're in the semis  lads, sure that'll do us.

If a team don't believe they can win Sam ,  why  are they even bothering?
Absolutely, every team needs to go in with the expectation that they can win on any given day or why bother. Realistically though we aren't even in the last 8 yet so talking about  anything after Galway is kinda of a waste of time.

First job is to get to Croker preferably by beating Galway or else beating a third place team at home.

tonto1888

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 04, 2024, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 04, 2024, 09:05:00 PMYou can't fancy Galway in any big game without Damo. He is that important to us.
The other two bucks big losses also - Finnerty especially as we only have three lads who can do damage on the scoreboard and himself and Comer are two of them.



Galway definitely not the same side without Comer. He's literally a difference maker. He raises the level of the players around him when he's on the pitch. Kelly and Finnerty serious losses as well. Finnerty is playing the best football of his career. Kelly not back to his best yet after his long injury but one of the best footballers in the country when he's 100%. Those are players you need going up against the best sides.

Are they all definitely out