GaaGo

Started by gortnaleck, February 26, 2022, 08:16:59 PM

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onefineday

I'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??

Tubberman

Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??

Sure you pay for Sky as well (or you're meant to) and they have ads as well.
I have no issue with ads if its used to reduce subscription costs
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SHEEDY

Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.

If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.
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From the Bunker

I think all this complaining of GAAGO is a Red Herring. What do the public want? A free meal? There will always be a auld Buck with no internet, no credit card or no smart TV. If you are so concerned about them then invite them over and sort them out. There is a cohort who will always complain about access to coverage.

Personally, I think Hurling gets far to much coverage on Terrestrial TV in relation to it's nationwide popularity. The way Sean Og O'Halpin talks it's as if the whole country has been dis-enfranchised by not showing the Munster Hurling Championship.

galwayman

Quote from: From the Bunker on May 18, 2024, 09:35:27 PMI think all this complaining of GAAGO is a Red Herring. What do the public want? A free meal? There will always be a auld Buck with no internet, no credit card or no smart TV. If you are so concerned about them then invite them over and sort them out. There is a cohort who will always complain about access to coverage.

Personally, I think Hurling gets far to much coverage on Terrestrial TV in relation to it's nationwide popularity. The way Sean Og O'Halpin talks it's as if the whole country has been dis-enfranchised by not showing the Munster Hurling Championship.
Well other commitments meant I couldn't be in Salthill today & I was damn glad for Gaa Go's existence!

imtommygunn

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 18, 2024, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.

If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.

Exactly. The games just wouldn't be shown. RTÉ is a national broadcaster not a sports offering and can't just show back to back games or games on several channels at once when it only really has two.

I do think it may potentially fail as it isn't actually that expensive and I do wonder how much they get and how much they make.

bennydorano

If it's here to stay I'd like to see it on the Sky platform. With some of the absolute niche / nonsense channels on there there is no way cost is an insurmountable issue.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2024, 10:02:58 PMIf it's here to stay I'd like to see it on the Sky platform. With some of the absolute niche / nonsense channels on there there is no way cost is an insurmountable issue.

Sky was a different audience, general "sports" fans who might watch. Sky became acceptable enough when they had the 24 hour Now passes, but one way or the other streaming is the way forward.
Moving the games earlier did not help the Sky deal, in another couple of weeks Sky would have less to show and the GAA helped fill that gap.
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bennydorano

The Sky 'platform', as in available as a stand alone digital channel, not as part of any Sports package.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on May 18, 2024, 11:32:39 PMThe Sky 'platform', as in available as a stand alone digital channel, not as part of any Sports package.

What is the business model here?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

bennydorano

Business model?? Rent a channel, advertise it, people buy it.

onefineday

Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2024, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??

Sure you pay for Sky as well (or you're meant to) and they have ads as well.
I have no issue with ads if its used to reduce subscription costs
Sky is a tv channel offering multiple sports on a high quality viewing platform. Gaago is a dedicated platform for watching a limited number of events on a technically limited basis.
Maybe it was my setup, I was watching using the gaago app and casting to a Chromecast hd, but the quality was a poor substitute for what we've become accustomed to on tv channels.

onefineday

Quote from: imtommygunn on May 18, 2024, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 18, 2024, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: onefineday on May 18, 2024, 06:15:17 PMI'm really not impressed with the technical aspects of gaago - the whole streaming malarkey is yet another reason why this is an ill conceived idea doomed to failure.

Another gripe, we're paying for subscription, why are there ads in there too??
sky sports and tnt sports have adverts and they're a subscription service, it's not a new thing, it's the way of the world of TV/streaming, dont think it's a big issue.

If gaago is doomed to failure as you think, who shows the games they are currently showing? There's 3 games on gaago this evening, there's no way rte commits to that sort of coverage.

Exactly. The games just wouldn't be shown. RTÉ is a national broadcaster not a sports offering and can't just show back to back games or games on several channels at once when it only really has two.

I do think it may potentially fail as it isn't actually that expensive and I do wonder how much they get and how much they make.


The point was that the package should have been made available to another broadcaster. Sky packages were for upwards of 20 games in addition to whatever rte was showing. They had a far greater potential audience than gaago (not that we want more people to see horror show from salthill this evening) and the quality could potentially be HD ot whatever makes it look good on my tv.

I've no issue with them selling the rights to every other fixture to clubber or some of the other streamers to generated additional revenues, but the current model has taken a large chunk of the best games off our screens onto a finicky platform that's subscription only and can only be accessed by someone who goes looking for it.

Casual viewers are lost, promotional opportunities are lost, the GAA becomes less mainstream, more niche and to top it off, as you suggest, they may even be making less money from the whole exercise.
I've said before on here, I'll be very interested in seeing the financials when they appear, the rte element means we'll probably get more insight into them than the GAA usually provides with its numbers and it should quickly become apparent whether or not this is more financially attractive than the risk free option of simply selling a package to a broadcaster.

small white mayoman

Surely gaa go has to be a complete and utter failure.
Yesterday for example there must have been 10 or 11 games been played between hurling and football yet not one was on any channel to view for free , so much for promoting the games.
I had signed up for the season pass, however the quality was so bad for the mayo v New York match , buffering , picture quality ect , I just cancelled it and won't be going back and definitely won't be paying 12 euro to watch a single game.
So yesterday evening instead of watching a hurling or football match my choice on rte was rugby or watch the golf on sky , so golf it was , turned out to be a great choice in the end 😀
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RedHand88

Quote from: small white mayoman on May 19, 2024, 08:40:32 AMSurely gaa go has to be a complete and utter failure.
Yesterday for example there must have been 10 or 11 games been played between hurling and football yet not one was on any channel to view for free , so much for promoting the games.
I had signed up for the season pass, however the quality was so bad for the mayo v New York match , buffering , picture quality ect , I just cancelled it and won't be going back and definitely won't be paying 12 euro to watch a single game.
So yesterday evening instead of watching a hurling or football match my choice on rte was rugby or watch the golf on sky , so golf it was , turned out to be a great choice in the end 😀

Is it possible your Internet isn't good enough? I've never had any problems with GAAGo in the few years it's been about. I am abroad this week and was able to watch the Derry game which I could not have done otherwise. Its great.

With regards to the perpetual argument that more games should be on free to air, this has been explained over and over and over. RTE are not a dedicated GAA station, they show general entertainment, news, lifestyle, cooking, documentaries, sports etc. They are already showing 2 full games today from the Munster Hurling championship, as well as highlight packages last night and tonight. You cannot expect them to show GAA morning noon and night all weekend.