GAA moneybags and Sean Cavanagh

Started by seafoid, May 13, 2024, 10:12:13 PM

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bennydorano

Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.

Milltown Row2

Its a bitta of a storm in a tea cup, I'm really liking Jarlath's approach on lots of things, and defending the GAA and so on is grand, its an amazing association, which has brought me (and continues to do) lots of enjoyment over the years. Certainly his speech at the hurling final was one to savour

But as my wife always said when bringing up the kids, pick your battles. I don't think he needs to get bogged down with, certainly with the media, quips and retorts, they are grand for the pub or with friends, Make a small statement and move on
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Keyser soze

My god there are some crying hoors in the GAA who want everything for free, I surely hope they are over represented on this board or the organisation is truely in trouble.

Crying about the price of tickets to games, and the price of diesel to get to games, and how much a feed costs, and having to get a ticket for the wains, and not getting to see every game on FTA tv, and the game they just saw was lateral shite, and the forward mark, and the studio analysis, and negative managers, and people coming to the door selling tickets for their club, and the amount of money the GAA has, and the lack of money the GAA gives our club, ad nauseum ad nauseum ad nauseum.

And then thinking they are great GAA men when they've not ever wore a shirt or even washed a shirt.

I would say the vast majority of posters on here are not even GAA members.

gallsman

Ah no, I disagree. Harris shamelessly tried to use the GAA to score a quick and cheap political point. Burns absolutely right to make a tit of him the way he did. Same for Cavanagh. He's simply defending the Association from mud slinging, and doing a terrific job of it.

armaghniac

Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2024, 09:10:41 AMThen people have to accept that there is a limit to what RTE can or will show. They can't have wall to wall GAA over the course of a weekend, especially if legally obliged to have the two finals from Sunday on.

There is a limit to how much can be shown. As a poster on boards.ie put it, if there was wall to wall GAA on RTÉ all weekend then he'd be happy but he would be in a minority in his own house.
But live coverage is desirable, it is a pity that TV3 have ended up doing nothing. The Cork-Limerick game would have got a good audience and so attracted advertisers. TV3 did reasonable job before Sky, but after the Sky deal ended there was a suggestion that the GAA were more interested in pushing GAAGo than TV3 having some games. The joint ownership of GAAGo by RTÉ does make you wonder about some of these things.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

gallsman

It's a shame for sure, but if other broadcasters valued the rights enough, they'd be trying to get a package. Sky didn't walk away for no reason.

armaghniac

Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2024, 10:12:58 AMIt's a shame for sure, but if other broadcasters valued the rights enough, they'd be trying to get a package. Sky didn't walk away for no reason.

Sky's model is not the same as TV3 though, one is selling subscriptions to a subset of people and one is selling advertising for the general public. As for trying to get a package, part of the story here is the way the product is divided up. You can set things up to get the most coverage, the most revenue, or something in between. If I was the GAA then I would have a regular chat with TV3 or even UTV and see what they might be interested in. We all recall the magazine programme that the UTV did in the past, which was OK, but they couldn't get the rights to show clips on it, this never made sense.

There is a slight lack of transparency on this
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/virgin-media-throw-further-fuel-on-gaago-fire-with-hard-hitting-statement-aimed-at-gaa-and-rte/a483613199.html
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Truthsayer

Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

Considering there's far more options now to spend less (a few quid on GAAGo to stream a game if its not on terrestrial TV) and stay at home rather than the much heftier expense of travelling to the games , how exactly are the GAA  trying to clean as much money as possible when they're showing far more games now than in the past?

If you buy a qualifier batch ticket you're getting 3 games for the price of 2.

Also, take into considerarion 83% of this money goes back out the door. The more that comes in, the more goes out

lfdown2

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

Out of interest, where is it you believe all this money goes? Is it all packaged up in brown envelopes in headquarters? Or is Jarlath the mercenary pocketing it?

Surely if that was the way of it they would have been better of keeping the cash at turnstiles set up, or maybe that's where Supervalu & Centra come in (it may shock you that you can still take cash out from under the mattress and head in to your local store to purchase a ticket for the game)?

johnnycool

Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.

I'm not sure where you're about but absolutely everything is going behind paywalls now, especially sport, that's the modern way.

Burns did point out that to make GAAGO viable that it needed to show some high profile games, he'd didn't shirk on that and Cork fans were probably unlucky in that their first three games were all on GAAGO and that does need addressed by the GAA.




tonto1888

Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

if this was actually the case we wouldnt have season tickets or packages for the all ireland group stages would we

Truthsayer

Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 01:00:34 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 15, 2024, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2024, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 15, 2024, 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

if this was actually the case we wouldnt have season tickets or packages for the all ireland group stages would we
Or to entice people in... do u think 2nd and 3rd place play-offs are necessary for next round of football rather than top 2 go into quarter-final? Poorly thought out cynical way to make money while Ulster final reduced to penalties because we haven't time for a replay...

Tyrone Dreamer

I don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

armaghniac

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on May 15, 2024, 02:10:53 PMI don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

It also evens up provincial issues.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B