East wall #Irelandisfull

[whitey]

So in addition to Varadkar there are several other Government TDs on tape saying that asylum seekers must claim Aslylum in the first country they land in

Now that's "a right wing talking point"

So why don't the Government  stop treating the electorate like imbiciles and explain to us in Black and White how their interpretation of that law has changed

Did they get legal advice from the Attorney General before adopting this new interpretation?


https://x.com/griptmedia/status/1742963564623610068?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

and they would be incorrect

So explain WHY ITS INCORRECT

Why and how has the interpretation of the law changed

It's quite simple-people are owed an explanation

[Rossfan]

Some very unchristian "Christians" among us.
They might just look up the Gospels and see the kind of things Jesus said therein.

I see the "Roscrea concerned 200" have attracted the nazifascists from Cork and Dublin who now make up more than 50% of the 200 bigots.
So we have 100 residents from a town of 5,000
They excelled themselves yesterday abusing women and children, a bit like the Holy Cross situation 20+ years ago.

That Racket Hall Hotel is out in the Country with a few farmers for immediate neighbours.

The issues of GPs, etc only seems to become a problem if some black skinned people are accommodated.
Didn't seem to bring out any "concerned" townspeople when about 5 or 6 times more white skinned Ukrainians were moved in!

 Ukrainians are Europeans and you will do more to help your neighbours than someone from another continent who has passed many places en route because they think they will get more from the taxpayer here.

"We should only help people that look like us"
"All the foreigners are only here for social welfare"

[Eire90]

would the gombeens be bringing in refugees if there was no money involved.

[Armagh18]

would the gombeens be bringing in refugees if there was no money involved.

Not a chance.

[ThomasMullan]

Spent a year in Indonesia. Been back a few times.  Mostly Muslim population.  I've never met nicer, warmer people.  Couldn't do enough for you.  As an atheist, I think we could all do with a bit more Islam, at least as I encountered it.

You'll soon change yer liberal tune when the Muslamics are building a super Mosque on a GAA pitch near you! Any day now!

Make Ireland Great Again.

#IrelandIsFool #Plantatiom2024

[Rossfan]

would the gombeens be bringing in refugees if there was no money involved.

Errr...Refugees turn up.
The gombeens make their properties available for people who are here already.....

for a good amount of €€€s of course.

[tonto1888]

So in addition to Varadkar there are several other Government TDs on tape saying that asylum seekers must claim Aslylum in the first country they land in

Now that's "a right wing talking point"

So why don't the Government  stop treating the electorate like imbiciles and explain to us in Black and White how their interpretation of that law has changed

Did they get legal advice from the Attorney General before adopting this new interpretation?


https://x.com/griptmedia/status/1742963564623610068?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

and they would be incorrect

So explain WHY ITS INCORRECT

Why and how has the interpretation of the law changed

It's quite simple-people are owed an explanation

google is your friend. Yes, people are owed an explanation as to why politicians are misleading them on it

[armaghniac]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

[ThomasMullan]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

[whitey]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

[ThomasMullan]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

The number of Irish that spend a few years there and come back vastly outnumber those that stay. I know cos I'm one of them and all the lads I worked with, every single one are back in Ireland now. They regarded the yanks mostly with bemusement, sometimes with scorn. Zero assimilation as far as I could see.

[whitey]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

The number of Irish that spend a few years there and come back vastly outnumber those that stay. I know cos I'm one of them and all the lads I worked with, every single one are back in Ireland now. They regarded the yanks mostly with bemusement, sometimes with scorn. Zero assimilation as far as I could see.

If you are from County Galway and go into a "Galway" pub in Boston you'll probably be in some way related to half the people in there.

 Yes-you'll have more in common with other "off the boat" Irish people, but your cultural DNA is almost identical to first and second generation people

I went into a pub one time and got talking to the bartender. Find out he often gave my mother a lift to a dance on the crossbar of his bike, and the his father played partners with my grandmother in 25 card games. How much "assimilation" would I need to have with his kids or my kids with him. We're essentially family

[ThomasMullan]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

The number of Irish that spend a few years there and come back vastly outnumber those that stay. I know cos I'm one of them and all the lads I worked with, every single one are back in Ireland now. They regarded the yanks mostly with bemusement, sometimes with scorn. Zero assimilation as far as I could see.

If you are from County Galway and go into a "Galway" pub in Boston you'll probably be in some way related to half the people in there.

 Yes-you'll have more in common with other "off the boat" Irish people, but your cultural DNA is almost identical to first and second generation people

I went into a pub one time and got talking to the bartender. Find out he often gave my mother a lift to a dance on the crossbar of his bike, and the his father played partners with my grandmother in 25 card games. How much "assimilation" would I need to have with his kids or my kids with him. We're essentially family

So you assimilated with the barman who was also from Ireland. Sounds like a great cultural melting pot.

[whitey]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

The number of Irish that spend a few years there and come back vastly outnumber those that stay. I know cos I'm one of them and all the lads I worked with, every single one are back in Ireland now. They regarded the yanks mostly with bemusement, sometimes with scorn. Zero assimilation as far as I could see.

If you are from County Galway and go into a "Galway" pub in Boston you'll probably be in some way related to half the people in there.

 Yes-you'll have more in common with other "off the boat" Irish people, but your cultural DNA is almost identical to first and second generation people

I went into a pub one time and got talking to the bartender. Find out he often gave my mother a lift to a dance on the crossbar of his bike, and the his father played partners with my grandmother in 25 card games. How much "assimilation" would I need to have with his kids or my kids with him. We're essentially family

So you assimilated with the barman who was also from Ireland. Sounds like a great cultural melting pot.

Re read my post

[ThomasMullan]

There is a great deal of simplistic talk on this thread.
The fact is that 6 billion people in the world cannot all come to this island, that is not a criticism of them as individuals but simply a measure of their aggregate effect.
It is not a question of race, but most of the poor people are not white, and the ability of people to integrate is function of their cultural similarity to start off with.
And while many of the Irish who went to Britain or America were builders, most of those who come here are not and do not increase the ability of the country to house people.

The Irish builders who went to the US in the 90s/00s, hung around with other Irish, drank in Irish bars, ate in Irish restaurants/coffee shops where available and when they couldn't stick it any more, came home.  Not much cultural assimilation there.

Nonsense

I've lived in the States for 30+ years

Irish people (off the boat) are almost culturally identical to Irish Americans to begin with

Many are related to people in the communities they settle in.

They are of the same religion.

They work in the same trades

The number of Irish that spend a few years there and come back vastly outnumber those that stay. I know cos I'm one of them and all the lads I worked with, every single one are back in Ireland now. They regarded the yanks mostly with bemusement, sometimes with scorn. Zero assimilation as far as I could see.

If you are from County Galway and go into a "Galway" pub in Boston you'll probably be in some way related to half the people in there.

 Yes-you'll have more in common with other "off the boat" Irish people, but your cultural DNA is almost identical to first and second generation people

I went into a pub one time and got talking to the bartender. Find out he often gave my mother a lift to a dance on the crossbar of his bike, and the his father played partners with my grandmother in 25 card games. How much "assimilation" would I need to have with his kids or my kids with him. We're essentially family

So you assimilated with the barman who was also from Ireland. Sounds like a great cultural melting pot.

Re read my post

I read it correctly. Your kids and his (second generation) will be culturally similar and hang around with each other.

How does this differ from, for example, lots of Syrians coming to Ireland and associating mainly with each other?