Ulster Club SFC 2023

Started by general_lee, September 26, 2023, 11:59:46 AM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere

 ;D ive been looking forward to this conversation coming up
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

quit yo jibbajabba

It's been 2 weeks at least. The topic deffo needs a revisit 🤣🤣

Milltown Row2

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on October 29, 2023, 06:25:01 PMIt's been 2 weeks at least. The topic deffo needs a revisit 🤣🤣

Gets me through the dark November month! 😂
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

clarshack

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on October 29, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere

 ;D ive been looking forward to this conversation coming up

Deffo the hardest to retain!!!

ONeill

Hard to build up any Ulster Championship know-how, give them that.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2023, 10:10:35 PMHard to build up any Ulster Championship know-how, give them that.

So that's the reason? No
Quote from: clarshack on October 29, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on October 29, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere

 ;D ive been looking forward to this conversation coming up

Deffo the hardest to retain!!!

Won't be from playing too many games compared to counties having round robins groups back doors
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

clarshack

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2023, 10:10:35 PMHard to build up any Ulster Championship know-how, give them that.

So that's the reason? No
Quote from: clarshack on October 29, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on October 29, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere

 ;D ive been looking forward to this conversation coming up

Deffo the hardest to retain!!!

Won't be from playing too many games compared to counties having round robins groups back doors

Group stages are a joke to determine 1/4 Finalists. Trillick were a penalty shootout from being knocked out in the first round

Milltown Row2

Quote from: clarshack on October 29, 2023, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2023, 10:10:35 PMHard to build up any Ulster Championship know-how, give them that.

So that's the reason? No
Quote from: clarshack on October 29, 2023, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on October 29, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 04:48:49 PMLooks like Trillick will be the Tyrone team in Ulster


Hold that!

Finished it out. Here's hoping they party like fcuk for a few weeks!

They'll be spent seeing as it's the toughest championship in the northern hemisphere

 ;D ive been looking forward to this conversation coming up

Deffo the hardest to retain!!!

Won't be from playing too many games compared to counties having round robins groups back doors

Group stages are a joke to determine 1/4 Finalists. Trillick were a penalty shootout from being knocked out in the first round

If that was the case maybe Tyrone teams bar EC would be able to actually compete in Ulster.. do they just get pissed after winning ?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 29, 2023, 11:18:11 PMIf what was the case?

If group stages were a joke then why do counties that have them do better than Tyrone's championship?

Dublin, Galway being two I can that have recently won along with Down
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 29, 2023, 11:28:43 PMThose counties clubs did better than Tyrone's when every county was straight knockout.

When did Antrim introduce groups? How have their clubs done since? Better or worse?

Antrim's had a mix of groups back doors round robins over the years ..

But currently (last ten years) the counties that are doing better have groups. More games in championships

And it may be the case that Tyrone teams are muck in Ulster regardless of straight knockouts or not

But spare me the myth of Tyrone's the best championship, I watched final today, was crap
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

ONeill

Tyrone, Monaghan, and Donegal have been the most successful Ulster counties at inter-provincial level in the last 20 years. Yet their clubs are 3 of the 4 least successful at provincial club level. Moral of the story, do what St Galls did and draft in a rake of newcomers.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2023, 11:48:43 PMTyrone, Monaghan, and Donegal have been the most successful Ulster counties at inter-provincial level in the last 20 years. Yet their clubs are 3 of the 4 least successful at provincial club level. Moral of the story, do what St Galls did and draft in a rake of newcomers.

Aye no inter club transfers in Tyrone...
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

#103
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 30, 2023, 12:00:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2023, 11:40:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 29, 2023, 11:28:43 PMThose counties clubs did better than Tyrone's when every county was straight knockout.

When did Antrim introduce groups? How have their clubs done since? Better or worse?

Antrim's had a mix of groups back doors round robins over the years ..

But currently (last ten years) the counties that are doing better have groups. More games in championships

And it may be the case that Tyrone teams are muck in Ulster regardless of straight knockouts or not

But spare me the myth of Tyrone's the best championship, I watched final today, was crap
The answer is that Antrim teams have done worse since the groups were introduced. But that's not because of the format. And that's the case across the board.
I don't know how you measure one championship against another but you seem to base it on how good the winners are. I'm not sure I agree with that logic.
Armagh, Derry & Down (Antrim also) are almost forgone conclusions. Their winners are good teams but it's all a bit easy to make the championship good.
Tyrone is wide open at least and the straight knockout at every level gives the do or die element.
But it's different strokes for different folks I suppose.

How do you measure success? You asked about measuring one championship over another, we hear every year that the Tyrone championship is the toughest/best and so on, but when playing the winners of other championships it's mediocre at best

Winning one part and not the whole part?

Winning one part (your own championship) and not the whole part (Ulster and All Ireland) if you measure success by just winning your county championship, that's fine.

All clubs enter their senior championship to win all their games which eventually lead to Croke park.

Antrim teams have reached Croke park 3 times, if we use them as a measuring stick, Tyrone have yet to get there.

Tyrone as a county in Ulster are top dogs, undisputed. I'm not sure of the reasons given (because it's different winners every year, or because it's the hardest to win) to why they are crap in Ulster club

I'd maybe a glass too many last night lol!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

ONeill

What do you not understand by 'winning the one part and not the whole part' stuff?

Pretty self-explanatory, and, at a push, genius.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.