Standard of Refs

[restorepride]

Are refs wise to the player making a line on the grass for a free on direction from the ref, and then running yards beyond that?

Rian O'Neill does it every time, and I've never seen it blown for him or anyone else.

There was never a worse one for it than his uncle Oisin.

Derry's Niall Toner is also shocking for it

Definitely.  He is not really a free taker in my opinion, lacks power in his kick.  One of Derry's big deficiencies at present, a top class free taker with a right boot.

[imtommygunn]

I was watching TG4 highlights and the ref reversed two red card decisions in the Ferbane? Tullamore Offaly match. The two boys who were red carded looked devastated and went to the umpire. The umpire consulted with the ref and they were reduced to yellow.

Very rare you would see a ref reverse a decision but tbh probably a good thing he did as it looked like them 2 boys were innocent.

[Armagh18]

I was watching TG4 highlights and the ref reversed two red card decisions in the Ferbane? Tullamore Offaly match. The two boys who were red carded looked devastated and went to the umpire. The umpire consulted with the ref and they were reduced to yellow.

Very rare you would see a ref reverse a decision but tbh probably a good thing he did as it looked like them 2 boys were innocent.

Fair play not too often you'll see a ref admit he was wrong!

[Milltown Row2]

He's not actually admitting he's wrong, possibly the position he seen it was poorer to the umpires and they've given a different view on it.

To be fair, I think in the rule book he's not meant to change his decision once given.. strangely

I think in big televised games it would be smart to have the 4th 0fficail linked up to someone who can get quick replay information, to help with on field calls

[Rossfan]

Whatever allows the correct decision to be reached should be pursued.

[imtommygunn]

He's not actually admitting he's wrong, possibly the position he seen it was poorer to the umpires and they've given a different view on it.

To be fair, I think in the rule book he's not meant to change his decision once given.. strangely

I think in big televised games it would be smart to have the 4th 0fficail linked up to someone who can get quick replay information, to help with on field calls

I did wonder about that bit in bold.

[Milltown Row2]

He's not actually admitting he's wrong, possibly the position he seen it was poorer to the umpires and they've given a different view on it.

To be fair, I think in the rule book he's not meant to change his decision once given.. strangely

I think in big televised games it would be smart to have the 4th 0fficail linked up to someone who can get quick replay information, to help with on field calls

I did wonder about that bit in bold.

There are many parts to the rules that need revisited

That said there is a online meeting this week from Croke in relation to all aspects of the game, there has been games development officers reviewing data and hopefully collating data to try and improve things

[Rossfan]

Isn't there a Committee rationalising the oul Treóir Oifigiúil at present?

[Milltown Row2]

Isn't there a Committee rationalising the oul Treóir Oifigiúil at present?

was it not a success?

[Estimator]

Was at a minor championship semi final yesterday and the ref issued a black card, the corner back made his way to the bench, only for the linesman to instruct the ref that the challenge wasn't actually a black card offence. Ref called the player back from the bench, cancelled the black card and given a yellow card instead.
The linesman had to intervene a few times throughout the match to assist the ref with his decisions.

[JoG2]

Was at a minor championship semi final yesterday and the ref issued a black card, the corner back made his way to the bench, only for the linesman to instruct the ref that the challenge wasn't actually a black card offence. Ref called the player back from the bench, cancelled the black card and given a yellow card instead.
The linesman had to intervene a few times throughout the match to assist the ref with his decisions.

If the black card offence happened 'on the ball', it's not the linesman call, ref only is it not. Linesmen can only call on off the ball stuff, which they rarely do. (unless the rules have changed)

[Milltown Row2]

Once issued, by the rules, the ref needs to stand over it, which I feel is wrong, as getting to the correct decision is the most important thing.

The ref can talk to a lines man before making his decision to ask whether or not he agrees or seen something different, THEN make a call, but can't, by the rule book, change it

[general_lee]

Once issued, by the rules, the ref needs to stand over it, which I feel is wrong, as getting to the correct decision is the most important thing.

The ref can talk to a lines man before making his decision to ask whether or not he agrees or seen something different, THEN make a call, but can't, by the rule book, change it

I've seen refs change their mind before

[Milltown Row2]

Once issued, by the rules, the ref needs to stand over it, which I feel is wrong, as getting to the correct decision is the most important thing.

The ref can talk to a lines man before making his decision to ask whether or not he agrees or seen something different, THEN make a call, but can't, by the rule book, change it

I've seen refs change their mind before

Yeah, me also, but by the rules, if he issues a card in this case, then consults the lines man, he can't or shouldn't, by the rule book

[Link]

Was at a minor championship semi final yesterday and the ref issued a black card, the corner back made his way to the bench, only for the linesman to instruct the ref that the challenge wasn't actually a black card offence. Ref called the player back from the bench, cancelled the black card and given a yellow card instead.
The linesman had to intervene a few times throughout the match to assist the ref with his decisions.

the abuse he took coming off the field was nothing short of a disgrace. best team won.