Kerry v Tyrone All Ireland Semi Final 11th August 2019 - Post match analysis

Started by Owen Brannigan, August 11, 2019, 05:46:47 PM

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seafoid

I thought Tyrone might lose 3 finals on the trot to the Dubs like Mayo but they are not that consistent

Armagh18

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.
He should have told the two of them to get the feck up and play on. He clearly seen nothing so shouldn't have booked anyone.

ONeill

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

I think a few lost the heads after this. Fair play Kerry. Ricey et al did this.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Angelo

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

Tyrone were in possession of the ball, he could have let play develop and then brought it back when it had stopped, instead he threw the ball in. Referees should never make assumptions, Deegan was going around there today making green and gold tinted assumptions on every decision.
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RedHand88

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

That was an absolute disgrace.

tonto1888

Quote from: Angelo on August 11, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

Tyrone were in possession of the ball, he could have let play develop and then brought it back when it had stopped, instead he threw the ball in. Referees should never make assumptions, Deegan was going around there today making green and gold tinted assumptions on every decision.

He looked round and seen two players wrestling on the ground. What did you want him to do. Kerry got a soft enough free more or less straight after and scored. Then Tyrone okayed sone lovely football got the ball to slidden who missed when it was easier to score. Can't blame the ref on that. Kerry went straight down the pitch and scored. 2 points in it. Should have been 4

ONeill

Quote from: Angelo on August 11, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

Tyrone were in possession of the ball, he could have let play develop and then brought it back when it had stopped, instead he threw the ball in. Referees should never make assumptions, Deegan was going around there today making green and gold tinted assumptions on every decision.

Don't agree. He gave us 2 frees in second half from way down the field he didn't see and based it on linesmen. He just got some stuff wrong and Kerry capitalised.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

imtommygunn

 Angelo if tyrone were attacking and he deemed a Tyrone player to have committed an offense, which he obviously did as Sludden got a yellow, why wouldn't he stop it?

Name one referee who doesn't make assumptions.

Geaney's behaviour wasn't great but honestly the ref couldn't see it. He can be faulted but not for this one imo.

ONeill

When Deegan looked at it, it was Sludden on top of his man. Impossible to call.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

imtommygunn


Zulu

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Thought Tyrone were Deegan'd personally.  3 terrible decisions, 3 points for Kerry at the start of the second half shifted momentum towards Kerry. Really can't see Kerry getting within 7.
This, for me. He brought Kerry right into the game. Tyrone were the better team over the course of the game. That said, they failed to make it count. Harsh to point a finger at one player but McGeary totally fcuked it today.

Can't see how you come that conclusion. Better in the first half by some distance but still didn't put Kerry away. Kerry by far the better team in the second half and did put Tyrone away. The frees were soft but not frees that you haven't seen given in other games. There are very soft frees given in every game as far as I can see. I think Tyrone would be fooling themselves if they focused on the ref too much.
I watched the game.

And still came to that conclusion? Fair enough.
Absolutely. The ref dragged Kerry back into it with some terrible decisions at the start of the 2nd half. Tyrone fcuked it away at times (McGeary, in particular). They also didn't take their chances. In general though, they played the better football in the game.

My 1st post, written again, in different words.

Again, fair enough but would disagree. Kerry lost the first half but won the second half. I'm open to correction but when Tyrone were on top in the first half they didn't have many wides. Kerry missed more in the first half albeit due to good Tyrone defending in many cases. There were definitely some poor decisions by the ref and it certainly helped Kerry but I don't think Tyrone were in any way the better team. Kerry played them poorly in the first half and Tyrone couldn't make enough of it. Once Kerry sorted themselves out and made adjustments they pulled away and won fairly comfortably.

Angelo

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 11, 2019, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 11, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

Tyrone were in possession of the ball, he could have let play develop and then brought it back when it had stopped, instead he threw the ball in. Referees should never make assumptions, Deegan was going around there today making green and gold tinted assumptions on every decision.



He looked round and seen two players wrestling on the ground. What did you want him to do. Kerry got a soft enough free more or less straight after and scored. Then Tyrone okayed sone lovely football got the ball to slidden who missed when it was easier to score. Can't blame the ref on that. Kerry went straight down the pitch and scored. 2 points in it. Should have been 4

Play on and not make an assumption. What did you want him to do? Make a guess? Why would Sludden have wanted Tyrone to lose a possession in a dangerous area of the pitch? Of course you can't blame the referee for Tyrone mistake, but you can certainly blame him for making guesses which were completely and utterly incorrect and had a tangible impact on the scoreboard. Deegan had an undue impact on the game today, it's not the first time this has happened with Kerry.
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Angelo

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Blowitupref

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 11, 2019, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

That was an absolute disgrace.

Why did you lock the Kerry v Tyrone thread?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

tonto1888

Quote from: Angelo on August 11, 2019, 07:28:36 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 11, 2019, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 11, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
On the Sludden incident. Geaney was very sneaky how he did that. I don't think any other refs would have had any other conclusion. I think it was too sneaky to be caught by anything other than tv.

Tyrone were in possession of the ball, he could have let play develop and then brought it back when it had stopped, instead he threw the ball in. Referees should never make assumptions, Deegan was going around there today making green and gold tinted assumptions on every decision.



He looked round and seen two players wrestling on the ground. What did you want him to do. Kerry got a soft enough free more or less straight after and scored. Then Tyrone okayed sone lovely football got the ball to slidden who missed when it was easier to score. Can't blame the ref on that. Kerry went straight down the pitch and scored. 2 points in it. Should have been 4

Play on and not make an assumption. What did you want him to do? Make a guess? Why would Sludden have wanted Tyrone to lose a possession in a dangerous area of the pitch? Of course you can't blame the referee for Tyrone mistake, but you can certainly blame him for making guesses which were completely and utterly incorrect and had a tangible impact on the scoreboard. Deegan had an undue impact on the game today, it's not the first time this has happened with Kerry.
Play on when there are two people wrestling in front of him? Really?