Ulster Colleges

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NAG1

Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.

I knew you'd weigh in defending Maghera coaches Rawhide ;)

Surely structure (set up) and coaching go hand in hand!!!!

Magheras record from Dalton to Rannafast in unmatched this last 10 years. When tactics are brought into it at McRory they are found wanting. It cost them at least 1 Hogan also.

Keyser soze

Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Rawhide

Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

+1
cccc is a true supporter lol

Rawhide

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.

I knew you'd weigh in defending Maghera coaches Rawhide ;)

Surely structure (set up) and coaching go hand in hand!!!!

Magheras record from Dalton to Rannafast in unmatched this last 10 years. When tactics are brought into it at McRory they are found wanting. It cost them at least 1 Hogan also.

If they would leave Lockhart & Mc Connell with it all the time.
cccc is a true supporter lol

trailer

Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

NAG1

Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.

Keyser soze

Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.


You are advocating doing away with all underage competition...more mad nonsense.

Walter Cronc

How dare anyone form an opinion different to that of the Keyser. :*

MacRory should be run off pre Christmas instead of eating into lads study time.

But nah frig their education, lets stick with tradition/over training and forcing lads to choose between schools and club/county!

Walter Cronc

You called me on it? I changed tact??

Think you are confusing me with NAG1? ::) ::) ::)

County should take priority over schools and lads shouldn't be forced to choose between school and club in winter, should their club be successful.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
You called me on it? I changed tact??

Think you are confusing me with NAG1? ::) ::) ::)

County should take priority over schools and lads shouldn't be forced to choose between school and club in winter, should their club be successful.

Message deleted - woops.

Orior

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
How dare anyone form an opinion different to that of the Keyser. :*

MacRory should be run off pre Christmas instead of eating into lads study time.

But nah frig their education, lets stick with tradition/over training and forcing lads to choose between schools and club/county!

Surely having it over by St Patrick's day is sufficient?

By the way, I don't agree with schools shopping for the best coach and paying over the odds (by whatever means) just to get their man. But if that is what the board of governors want then I suppose fair enough, they're making the decisions. But if they don't know, then they should be ashamed.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

JimStynes

Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

What a load of shite. The McCrory and other college competitions are fantastic competitions and gives young lads the chance to play against other top level players. I know the difference the college football makes to our own club players. Their skill level, fitness levels, mental strength etc increases massively by playing McCrory football. The buzz around Lurgan at the minute is fantastic and will no doubt spur on other young lads to play Gaelic football. Playing along with your school mates from different clubs is brilliant and these young lads will have very fond memories of it for the rest of their lives.

Yes the half in the final was poor but the second half was a decent game. There has been great exhibitions of football in the other games this year as well. Don't judge it all on one game ffs.

Kickham csc

Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.

Speaking from experience, going though the Magera system, you couldn't be further from the truth.

In St Pats, 1st to 3rd year PE revolved around 50% GAA and the rest was a mix of athletics, basketball, rugby, soccer and gym.

OF the GAA PE session, each class, no matter of the ability of the pupil, was coached on the technical aspects of football, catching kicking tackling etc.

For the school teams, we naturally went out to win all our games, but the management didn't have a win at all costs mentality, if we won great, if we lost they talked to us abut what went wrong, and they would actually work on the weakness the next year.

At MacRory, the intensity increased, and the focus on winning increased, but the approach was always about fundamentals, that if you can do the fundamentals faster, higher, etc than the opposition, then you had a better chance to win.

On strategy, we focused on defence getting to the ball first, while in possession focused on getting the ball into the forwards as fast as possible. We had a St Pats way of driving forward was ingrained to us.

The net result of the 7 year process was that on my final year squad of 24, 5 went on to play inter-county football, the  rest all played senior football for their club teams, and there was a feeling that St Pats supplemented the local clubs coaching and help elevate Derry club football.

It was a really positive experience

thewobbler

#884
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.

It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.

If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.