UTV & BBC & RTE & TV3

[imtommygunn]

Anycraic you don't have a choice but to agree with the regional argument -the remit is ni and they cover the games here and give results from the other 3.

Club games are more regional again. I doubt they would have the scope to cover every gaa game with4k+ and beforehand how do you know 4k will be at it? If they cover one club game where do they stop? It's not feasible.

The remit the bbc cover is ulster club, mckenna cup, championship and national league. That's consistent with soccer when you look at it. It's just that soccer have their games every week.

Yes the bbc can improve a lot and they could be doing with highlighting games as well as rows but you more than anyone should know about their budgets. What you suggest isn't feasible and you do seem like a dog with a bone...

[Any craic]

Equality across the output would be good, and a place for GAA that recognises the importance of our games outside inter-county football. Hurling, ladies football, club games, etc.

Yes they show the MacRory Final Live, which is good, but this year they didn't attend any of the Quarter-finals or the Hogan Cup Semi or Final, which was not good. The Club championship coverage is of course welcome as well, but it's only on medium wave radio and is nowhere near enough. A regular slot or programme like Sunday Sportsound is much-missed. Put it this way O'Neill, there's 3/4 hours every Saturday throughout the year, covering everything but GAA, and very little on Sundays in comparison.

[Any craic]

imtommygun, the BBC don't have a remit to cover the competitions you mention. They do the McKenna Cup when it suits them, which is very hit and miss. Same with the National League, blink and you'd miss it. There's no way their coverage outside the Ulster SFC is comparable with soccer and rugby. If it's about budgets, then do less local football. Cut down from 6 games every Saturday to 3, and you'd save a fortune. You'd be able to go to more GAA games throughout the year, and even provide regular coverage. Just my opinion. I've seen it from close and far for a long time.

[ONeill]

Put it this way O'Neill, there's 3/4 hours every Saturday throughout the year, covering everything but GAA, and very little on Sundays in comparison.

Would their sports radio output between May and August not be 80% GAA on Sat (backdoor) and Sun?

I even think there was one Saturday when they rolled out 6 hours.

[imtommygunn]

imtommygun, the BBC don't have a remit to cover the competitions you mention. They do the McKenna Cup when it suits them, which is very hit and miss. Same with the National League, blink and you'd miss it. There's no way their coverage outside the Ulster SFC is comparable with soccer and rugby. If it's about budgets, then do less local football. Cut down from 6 games every Saturday to 3, and you'd save a fortune. You'd be able to go to more GAA games throughout the year, and even provide regular coverage. Just my opinion. I've seen it from close and far for a long time.

Ae you comparing like for like with rugby and gaa though? Ulster rugby, ireland rugby, schools rugby and ail. Is that dissimilar from what the gaa would get ( assuming they did it consistently?)

It's not a mandatory remit granted but it seems to be what they do.

The main thing that peeves me about the bbc and the gaa is that they seem quick to jump on the fights. The coverage is actually decent. Yes it could be better but it's not as bad as you make out.

In addition what coverage do rte give club games? What coverage would they get were it not for tg4. League coverage is rubbish too.

[Any craic]

Yes O'Neill, the back door radio coverage is good and welcomed, but it wouldn't amount to 80 per cent between May-August. There's still 4 hours every Saturday for other sports during the football/rugby season, plus a Summer show that carries on the same slot and does all sports. Plus you can throw in football internationals, european games in July, and so on. But look at the wider picture - they shut down on Sundays from the start of December through to the Ulster SFC in mid-May. There is absolutely nothing on Sundays for the McKenna Cup and the NFL, never mind clubs or any other GAA. BTW O'Neill, I'm not as avid a follower of their coverage these days, as you might understand lol, so I might not be so well-informed as I was.

[Any craic]

imtommygun, there's definitely more rugby coverage across their output all year round than GAA. Look at their website, listen to a radio bulletin, watch a TV bulletin, you'll see rugby much more prominent. You're right about jumping on fights, but that wouldn't be so bad if they had better coverage throughout the year of more GAA games. People get annoyed because they jump on games that they don't even attend as a rule. As regards coverage elsewhere, to start that debate you'd have to bring in Setanta, Newstalk, TG4, etc, etc. RTE do a one-hour TV show every night through the League, plus blanket radio, while BBC show maybe 1 minute on a Monday night, with nothing at all on Sundays.

[thewobbler]

Anycraic, some amazing rants here.

But the bottom line is that you will not accept that the role of a regional broadcaster is to broadcast stories of regional interest. Even if the whole of Strabane turns up for a Strabane Sigersons game, that doesn't make of interest beyond west Tyrone.

I'll put this another way. There are funerals every few weeks, maybe every week, in Ulster that invoke thousands of mourners. But the only funerals that get mentioned on BBC NI are those involving figures who have a regional profile. Believe it or not, sport has to operate on a roughly similar principle.

[ONeill]

There is absolutely nothing on Sundays for the McKenna Cup and the NFL, never mind clubs or any other GAA.

Ah now, that's not true.

[Any craic]

O'Neill, it actually is true that there is no BBC radio or TV coverage on Sundays from December through to the start of the Ulster SFC or maybe a League Final if an Ulster team is in it. They dropped Sunday Sportsound years ago and there is nothing on at all. As for thewobbler, I'm going to let your comments go at this stage because I'm wondering what your agenda is and also because you've had a few digs at my posts. Strabane Sigersons, funerals, strange stuff. I'm happy to make my arguments and let people take it from there. Just my opinion, as I said.

[ONeill]

You're going mad.

There's a full NFL programme every Sunday, with reports from every Ulster county game from Feb to May. Sure they even had McGourty reporting.

Also, Newsline on a Monday would give a 1 min review of one game.

[Any craic]

O'Neill, you're wrong mate! McGourty has done a few interviews alright, but for the Monday TV one minute. I'm talking about Live broadcasting. Sure a lot of the games are played on Saturday night and they just don't cover them on radio and haven't done for some time. I refer you to Paddy Heaney's famous article that exposed their Sunday cutback - http://www.nuzhound.com/articles/irish_news/arts2007/nov6_BBC_Gaelic_sports_coverage__PHeaney.php

[Kid Twist]

Anycraic, some amazing rants here.

But the bottom line is that you will not accept that the role of a regional broadcaster is to broadcast stories of regional interest. Even if the whole of Strabane turns up for a Strabane Sigersons game, that doesn't make of interest beyond west Tyrone.

I'll put this another way. There are funerals every few weeks, maybe every week, in Ulster that invoke thousands of mourners. But the only funerals that get mentioned on BBC NI are those involving figures who have a regional profile. Believe it or not, sport has to operate on a roughly similar principle.

BBC Radio Foyle are the local broadcasters for the north west, including Strabane, I have rarely heard them chat about local GAA issues. They do have great interest in local cricket news in every morning sports bulletin and even have special cricket correspondent. they also report cross channel soccer. It makes this whole local, regional, national thing all very confusing

[orangeman]

Anycraic, some amazing rants here.

But the bottom line is that you will not accept that the role of a regional broadcaster is to broadcast stories of regional interest. Even if the whole of Strabane turns up for a Strabane Sigersons game, that doesn't make of interest beyond west Tyrone.

I'll put this another way. There are funerals every few weeks, maybe every week, in Ulster that invoke thousands of mourners. But the only funerals that get mentioned on BBC NI are those involving figures who have a regional profile. Believe it or not, sport has to operate on a roughly similar principle.

Not really amazing when you consider Any Craic is Jerome Quinn,  who was sacked by the BBC.

If it weren't for any Craic exposing the BBC and their treatment of gaelic games, we would have been left speculating. At least Any Craic put it into the public domain.


Whatever way you want to look at it, Gaelic games are NOT a minority sport but the reporting of them by the BBC and others would nearly make you think they were.

[thewobbler]

O'Neill, it actually is true that there is no BBC radio or TV coverage on Sundays from December through to the start of the Ulster SFC or maybe a League Final if an Ulster team is in it. They dropped Sunday Sportsound years ago and there is nothing on at all. As for thewobbler, I'm going to let your comments go at this stage because I'm wondering what your agenda is and also because you've had a few digs at my posts. Strabane Sigersons, funerals, strange stuff. I'm happy to make my arguments and let people take it from there. Just my opinion, as I said.

No agenda, no digs. Until saffrongael pointed out that you actually worked for the Beeb, i just assumed you were one of those people who doesn't understand the role of regional broadcasting. what you regard as 'strange stuff', I'm merely pointing out that:

- even if a Gaelic football captures the attention of an entire town (for example, Strabane), it doesn't make the match newsworthy beyond that town. 10,000 locals attending that match does not give it a regional impact.

- from an editorial perspective, the size of the congregation at a funeral doesn't decide if it gets mentioned on newsline. It's the impact/profile the deceased had across the six counties that makes it newsworthy. If you can agree with that, then surely you can apply the same logic to sport.