Ulster Colleges

Started by Line Ball, October 13, 2012, 06:59:14 PM

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onefaircounty

Thought it was more bad decision making than tactics. One of Bessbrook's key qualities this year has been the lack of panic and slow moving of the ball out of defence. Today so many defenders hoofed the ball in the first 20 minutes, O'Doherty couldn't believe his luck. Think this was maybe the occasion getting to some.

No issues with result. Maghera physically stronger. Two minutes at the end was a joke, but referee gave St Paul's plenty of help in the second half.


sbw

St pats were lucky to get over the line in the end but they showed much better discipline throughout the game but on this occasion it could have back fired as higgins seemed to give st Paul's frees easier than st pats in second half

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: onefaircounty on March 18, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Thought it was more bad decision making than tactics. One of Bessbrook's key qualities this year has been the lack of panic and slow moving of the ball out of defence. Today so many defenders hoofed the ball in the first 20 minutes, O'Doherty couldn't believe his luck. Think this was maybe the occasion getting to some.

No issues with result. Maghera physically stronger. Two minutes at the end was a joke, but referee gave St Paul's plenty of help in the second half.

On the field it may have been bad decision making but once it became clear what was happening then the management should have addressed it. The fact that the 'sweeper' won MOTM tells its own story on his influence on the game.

elk

st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Throw ball

Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Maybe he was cheesed off with the amount of time he and Bessbrook had to stand in the cold before Maghera decided they wanted to play the second half. ;D

Walter Cronc

Quote from: Throw ball on March 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Maybe he was cheesed off with the amount of time he and Bessbrook had to stand in the cold before Maghera decided they wanted to play the second half. ;D

Why do managers continue to do this! Can't understand it at all. Ref always seems to go against the side who appears late in 2nd half.

ranch

Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Other than the last free where O'Hanlon could have been adjudged to be charging I can't remember any decision he gave St. Paul's which stands out as bad?
It's not as if Maghera weren't given frees in the 2nd half either.

lenny

Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Other than the last free where O'Hanlon could have been adjudged to be charging I can't remember any decision he gave St. Paul's which stands out as bad?
It's not as if Maghera weren't given frees in the 2nd half either.

He blew numerous frees against maghera for picking the ball off the ground but let bessbrook off with the same offence at least 3 times.

sbw

That's how we saw it for sure . Poor game I thought but finals are for winning and st pats won't care less and why should they

ranch

I certainly wouldn't say he was biased or favoured any team over the other.

sbw


ranch

Quote from: sbw on March 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Watch it again  :D

I have.

Whilst I wanted St. Paul's to win I'm genuinely happy for Maghera after last season, no young lad deserves to lose two finals in as many years.
I just don't buy into this notion that the ref got St. Paul's back into it. They were never out of it in the first place and although they were scoring frees in the 2nd half they were frees that deserved to be given and St. Pat's were also getting them up at the other end.

bennydorano

St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.

ranch

Quote from: hardstation on March 18, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.
Agree with that. They were beaten by the minimum in a game that could have gone either way. They missed some very kickable frees and conceded a goal that wouldn't have gone in 99 out of 100 times. Two very evenly matched teams, St. Pauls were just unlucky.

Yeah, losing by the minimum is what will probably hurt them most given some of the chances missed. I know some of the players and management and whilst the management can always have another crack at the MacRory in the future it's a pity that talented players like Ciaron O'Hanlon and Eoghan Burns have only had one year at it.

Dougal Maguire

A great pity indeed but Ciaran O'Hanlon has Armagh U 21s coming and Eoghan Burns is still a minor so hopefully they'll have a chance to shine there
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