Ulster Senior Football Club Championship 2012

[mackers]

So what is the argument for Armagh football being so crap then? Because Cross are so dominant? Yet them being dominant at provincial level this past decade somehow doesn't render the rest of Ulster crap? 

+1
This is the point that I was trying to make before certain posters went off on a tangent.  Cross don't just win the Armagh championship every year because it's crap, they win it every year because they are an exceptional club team.  MR2 argues that they don't train too hard for it because the standard is low.  I would argue that they don't train too hard for it because they have been training flat out until Paddy's Day and need a break.

The Armagh Championship isn't competitive. It used to be Dromintee who put it up to Cross in the final every year before bottling it. They appear to have passed that honour to Pearse Og.

Lazy analysis. The first year that this current Cross team won the AI they had three very competitive matches, they drew with Cullyhanna and pipped them by a point in the replay and Dromintee pushed them all the way in the final.
This year I felt that Maghery, Carrickcruppen and the Ogs all give them their fill of it, well as much as anybody in Ulster did. Where you at any of these matches oakleafgael?  Are you going along with the argument that Ulster club football is crap then?
And no I'm not saying that any of these teams are competing for the second best team in Ulster..

[Walter Cronc]

So what is the argument for Armagh football being so crap then? Because Cross are so dominant? Yet them being dominant at provincial level this past decade somehow doesn't render the rest of Ulster crap? 

+1
This is the point that I was trying to make before certain posters went off on a tangent.  Cross don't just win the Armagh championship every year because it's crap, they win it every year because they are an exceptional club team.  MR2 argues that they don't train too hard for it because the standard is low.  I would argue that they don't train too hard for it because they have been training flat out until Paddy's Day and need a break.

The Armagh Championship isn't competitive. It used to be Dromintee who put it up to Cross in the final every year before bottling it. They appear to have passed that honour to Pearse Og.

Lazy analysis. The first year that this current Cross team won the AI they had three very competitive matches, they drew with Cullyhanna and pipped them by a point in the replay and Dromintee pushed them all the way in the final.
This year I felt that Maghery, Carrickcruppen and the Ogs all give them their fill of it, well as much as anybody in Ulster did. Where you at any of these matches oakleafgael?  Are you going along with the argument that Ulster club football is crap then?
And no I'm not saying that any of these teams are competing for the second best team in Ulster..

Is this the same Cullyhanna that Greenlough beat in the Intermediate championship a couple of years ago??

[mackers]

Cullyhanna are a frustatingly inconsistent team.  They had a very poor day against Greenlough with their star player Ciaran McKeever just off a plane from Oz after the International Rules. 

[Milltown Row2]

So what is the argument for Armagh football being so crap then? Because Cross are so dominant? Yet them being dominant at provincial level this past decade somehow doesn't render the rest of Ulster crap? 

+1
This is the point that I was trying to make before certain posters went off on a tangent.  Cross don't just win the Armagh championship every year because it's crap, they win it every year because they are an exceptional club team.  MR2 argues that they don't train too hard for it because the standard is low.  I would argue that they don't train too hard for it because they have been training flat out until Paddy's Day and need a break.

The Armagh Championship isn't competitive. It used to be Dromintee who put it up to Cross in the final every year before bottling it. They appear to have passed that honour to Pearse Og.

Lazy analysis. The first year that this current Cross team won the AI they had three very competitive matches, they drew with Cullyhanna and pipped them by a point in the replay and Dromintee pushed them all the way in the final.
This year I felt that Maghery, Carrickcruppen and the Ogs all give them their fill of it, well as much as anybody in Ulster did. Where you at any of these matches oakleafgael?  Are you going along with the argument that Ulster club football is crap then?
And no I'm not saying that any of these teams are competing for the second best team in Ulster..

I said that already in a previous post, They only train at the business end of the year as they are usually doing pre-season training leading up to playing in Croke Park. Time management, other clubs need tough pre season training Cross don't, we didn't really do a wile lot of training during our good runs, that may change with the players getting older and fear of losing this winning streak

[supersub]

Toughest game Cross got so far has been Carrikcruppen in semi final of Armagh championship, the will have been glad to get out of the Athletic Grounds that day for sure! Joe Brolly wrote an article last week which including a bit about them training in Gosford Park that morning, home and showered and away to play the semi final, god knows if he is making it up/fed that information or it is actually true but would make you wonder.

[fitzroyalty]

So what is the argument for Armagh football being so crap then? Because Cross are so dominant? Yet them being dominant at provincial level this past decade somehow doesn't render the rest of Ulster crap? 

+1
This is the point that I was trying to make before certain posters went off on a tangent.  Cross don't just win the Armagh championship every year because it's crap, they win it every year because they are an exceptional club team.  MR2 argues that they don't train too hard for it because the standard is low.  I would argue that they don't train too hard for it because they have been training flat out until Paddy's Day and need a break.

The Armagh Championship isn't competitive. It used to be Dromintee who put it up to Cross in the final every year before bottling it. They appear to have passed that honour to Pearse Og.

Lazy analysis. The first year that this current Cross team won the AI they had three very competitive matches, they drew with Cullyhanna and pipped them by a point in the replay and Dromintee pushed them all the way in the final.
This year I felt that Maghery, Carrickcruppen and the Ogs all give them their fill of it, well as much as anybody in Ulster did. Where you at any of these matches oakleafgael?  Are you going along with the argument that Ulster club football is crap then?
And no I'm not saying that any of these teams are competing for the second best team in Ulster..

Is this the same Cullyhanna that Greenlough beat in the Intermediate championship a couple of years ago??

Well which of the two do you think has progressed since then. Greenlough teetering at bottom of their Division or Cullyhanna now regarded one of the top teams in Armagh?

[Walter Cronc]

So what is the argument for Armagh football being so crap then? Because Cross are so dominant? Yet them being dominant at provincial level this past decade somehow doesn't render the rest of Ulster crap? 

+1
This is the point that I was trying to make before certain posters went off on a tangent.  Cross don't just win the Armagh championship every year because it's crap, they win it every year because they are an exceptional club team.  MR2 argues that they don't train too hard for it because the standard is low.  I would argue that they don't train too hard for it because they have been training flat out until Paddy's Day and need a break.

The Armagh Championship isn't competitive. It used to be Dromintee who put it up to Cross in the final every year before bottling it. They appear to have passed that honour to Pearse Og.

Lazy analysis. The first year that this current Cross team won the AI they had three very competitive matches, they drew with Cullyhanna and pipped them by a point in the replay and Dromintee pushed them all the way in the final.
This year I felt that Maghery, Carrickcruppen and the Ogs all give them their fill of it, well as much as anybody in Ulster did. Where you at any of these matches oakleafgael?  Are you going along with the argument that Ulster club football is crap then?
And no I'm not saying that any of these teams are competing for the second best team in Ulster..

Is this the same Cullyhanna that Greenlough beat in the Intermediate championship a couple of years ago??

Well which of the two do you think has progressed since then. Greenlough teetering at bottom of their Division or Cullyhanna now regarded one of the top teams in Armagh?

Neither has won their senior championship. No medals in Derry for second best.

[Cold tea]

Toughest game Cross got so far has been Carrikcruppen in semi final of Armagh championship, the will have been glad to get out of the Athletic Grounds that day for sure! Joe Brolly wrote an article last week which including a bit about them training in Gosford Park that morning, home and showered and away to play the semi final, god knows if he is making it up/fed that information or it is actually true but would make you wonder.

Harps gave them a good go!!