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#1
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 14, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 08, 2016, 01:02:53 PM
Kilcoo will have too much craft for Maghery.
Be interesting to see if Slaughtneil have the legs for a buoyant Killyclogher.
Wouldn't be so sure. I fancy Maghery at 4/1. If they can stem the influence of Laverty they have every chance.

... not deluded? ... hope you didn't have your Christmas money on them!
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: County Final Attendances
November 14, 2016, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on November 11, 2016, 10:11:07 PM
i thought the stand was actually fuller the second night as it was wet and there was deffo a couple of thousand on the terraces which would leave it at at least 7 thousand.

I stand corrected - I was getting mixed up with the Cargin game - too many matches! Yes there were about 7500 at the second match as far as I recall.
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: County Final Attendances
November 11, 2016, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on November 10, 2016, 11:24:30 PM
local newspapers in tyrone were quoting an attendance of 'almost 10000' for the first game and 7500 for the replay. i attended both games and feel this is accurate.

I had heard just over 8500 for the first match - which was higher than usual apparently and just under 5000 for the replay. These don't count u16 though as they don't pay and so can't be counted.
The stand, which seats 5000, was full for the first match with a good crowd on the terrace side and while it (the stand) wasn't totally full for the replay the crowd on the terrace side would have filled any empty seats so these sound about right.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
Tyrone clubs don't have the minerals for the Ulster club championship!

It must be Maghery's title then - after all Crossmaglen have a fantastic record in Ulster!!!
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Regardless of what Killyclogher do on Sunday they wont win Ulster.

Omagh had the chance a couple of years ago and bottled it.

Personally I expect Killyclogher to find it tough on Sunday against an experienced Slaughtneil outfit. But what have Omagh's past failings got to do with Killyclogher?
#6
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on November 10, 2016, 02:32:23 PM


Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).

Pissed myself laughing at that, Arbboe, Errigal, Carrickmore currently not in the ball park. Trillick this season not in to ball park either. They could well be next year. That leaves Killyclogher, Omagh, Clonoe, Coalisland and Dromore, five teams lads who this season were the only serious teams in the championship.

So how do you work Clonoe are much further than Carrickmore? Beat them by a single point in League and a goal at the end of the Championship game? If Caoloan Daly had not have got injured Carrickmore would have beaten Clonoe they were all over them the entire game.

Maybe last year's league positions will help to confirm....
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 14 1 0 257 133 28
2 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 11 3 1 232 171 23
3 Errigal Ciaran 15 10 3 2 239 184 22
4 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 15 10 4 1 263 202 21
5 Omagh St Enda's 15 10 5 0 252 188 20
6 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 15 10 5 0 248 162 20
7 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 9 6 0 215 183 18
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 8 7 0 206 177 16
9 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 7 6 2 231 222 16
...
same 9 teams. Trillick ended up 8th but won the Championship - beat KClogher by a point in the final who had beaten Dromore by a point in the semis - doesn't seem to be a lot between first and 8th!
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

#9
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 09, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 08, 2016, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 10, 2016, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 09, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 08, 2016, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
#11
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2015, 11:40:07 AM
Would Quigley not lose his goal for barging Cluxton over the line too if that were the case ;-)

Actually this was officially given as an OG to Cluxton although some newpaper reports credited Quigley. If he had been given this one he would have ended up with 3-36 and won, hard to argue though given that he didn't actually touch the ball. In interviews after he said he wasn't sure what happened but he thinks Cluxton must have somehow stumbled - a response like that just adds to his likeability imo!
#12
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
August 27, 2015, 12:23:36 PM
Quotes from getevennotcross:
"...the sooner ge moves aside and makes way for Canavan the bettee."
"Hart us luving on the backs of othoth which sadly is immoral but a common occurrence now days in society."
"Is yours not a fake name? I'm quite happy to provide mine and stand by what I say."

I'm glad you are willing to stand by what you say – now all we have to do is to try to figure out exactly what that is.
#13
Sligoman2, can you clarify what you mean by MY plan? Of course as I already CLEARLY pointed out, what Tiernan did was wrong. I think my position was clear - take a deep breath and read my previous post ... the point I was making was as a long term GAA member, I'm sick of knee jerk decisions being made (that are not based on the rules of the game but on inital media hysteria) only to be be rescinded later - just look at the outcome of today's appeals. How many of the original decisions were overturned? Unlike you I'm not focused on just one decision but on the bigger picture. Do you not think that every wrong decision undermines the GAA generally? Are you a real GAA fan or are Sligo Rovers more your scene? Or are you so blinded by hatred of others that you can't tell black from white any more?
#14
While delighted that common sense has prevailed, as a fervent GAA supporter I have to question who made the original decision to propose an eight week ban.While  I, like all reasonable Tyrone (and real neutral) supporters, realised that what young Tiernan had done was unsporting and not what we want to see coming into the game, an eight week ban was, even to the most fervent anti-Tyrone enthusiasts, always way off the mark. Even Colm O'Rourke in his recent newspaper column admitted it was 'probably excessive' - and this from the guy who originally proposed it! Are the original GAA decision makers focused on or in Leinster? Or why are they so strongly influenced in their initial decision making by a couple of past Leinster players when most neutral supporters' views - as reflected in this chain - were that the original ban proposal was way off the mark? As a long term GAA member I cringe everytime these decisions are made and subsequently rescinded. Can we get some (at least) semi-professionals into the committees that make these original decisions so that we don't become a laughing stock?
#15
quote from Farrandeelin:
"I'd go further than that and say that people who compare games between different codes need to cop on as well. I'm sick of hearing people comparing the hurling game yesterday to city v Chelsea et cetera...

Compare hurling with hurling, football with football, soccer with soccer etc, all fine by me."

I agree Farrandeelin, I mean you just can't compare a hurling match with a soccer match - hurling is much more skilful and entertaining!