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Heaney's Wish, if you cannot see the difference between commenting on someones performance, versus commenting on them as individuals or their personality/appearance, then I'm afraid I can't help you out.

Apologies mod3, it won't happen again. I will stick to highlighting performances of a poor nature only (In my opinion of course!), after all that's what I get the big bucks for.

9       GAA Discussion / Local GAA Discussion / Re: Antrim Football Thread       on: September 13, 2010, 09:14:06 AM
From a neutral perspective I thought Gregory was pish poor. It was almost as if he was afraid of a game of football breaking out. He was inconsistent in awarding St Galls some very soft frees in scoring positions which they squandered.

St Galls were in 2nd gear throughout but they never seemed as if they were able to deliver a killer blow, even with the extra man. I think that we still can see a lot more from St Galls but I wonder if their hunger has gone after winning the AI last year?

Lads, what's the craic with the attacks on Ray Matthews? Any wonder we can't get people to referee our games? Why on earth would anybody want to do anything within the GAA if they are to become the subject of this sort of very personal abuse?

This fella gives up his time and volunteers to serve us by facilitating the playing of our games and what does he get in return? The back ripped out of him. Uncalled for and very unfair.

Looking at your comments on GW(Reiteoir) in the football tread, looks like pot/kettle scenario, be consistent at least, would love to get your comments back in the native tongue, very rarely you find it these days, at least we share a common interest. The  I promised that I wouldn't engage in this again, so that's the end of it.

HW is obviously a referee himself. Poor judgement to come on here use the tone & language that he has used. I wonder is that poor judgement as apparent when he's a whistle in his gub?

BTW I can't say I don't share similar concerns (without the bile) about the way he referees games now (as opposed to his first couple of years when I though he was the best in the county).  I hope he has a great final

Ah Skull its my job, I have to make a living somehow! OK I would be close to a number of referees and have never had the knackers to do it myself, however this particular appointment has caused serious bad feeling among a lot of your local lads, and their are concerns among his piers to say the least. I will however desist from the topic with immediate effect. Apologies to all concerned, but this is the life of a media mogul!!!! Good luck to the shamrocks...........

Take your point but it's like all walks of life - the only way you get the experience is by being given the chance to do it. Herbie is a brave bit younger than them other boys - Duffy's in his mid-forties as is Elliott - and as you said he's a development ref - how can he be allowed to develop if he doesn't get the opportunity. I believe that Herbie has potential and he should be given every encouragement. He's young, committed, fit. So, give him the opportunity and all the best to him.

NAG's point about the ref is true. It doesn't matter.

He has age on side, that's it! Let him show his potential at national if he has what your saying then surely they would have had him through already? Then he can do 1,2,3,4 county finals in the future when the older guard have gone. He hasn't proved it yet but yes he has plenty of time. I think the county should go with experience, loughguil need an experienced man if their going to break this spell Young, Committed Fit, bar the young he has was Hasson, Duffy and Elliott have, Matthews as said has no fitness he's too overweight. So just because he's been around doesn't make him a good choice for the final.

Still maintain that we shouldn't give the the County Final to an outsider. Hasson is a Derry ref and he is only using us as we are using him but he shouldn't get the County Final. We should use it for our own people - Herbie is the man for the job. Duffy and Elliot have both done a final so, it's only fair that Herbie gets a crack at it.

Your are saying then that Antrim should work a rota system rather than who is the best man for the Job FF. Going by your logic then, done it once so PO? Tell me why Herbie is the man for the job other than you feel its his turn? He's a development referee at National level with limited experience, the other lads seemed to have at last learned when to blow and when to let it go, so you want to watch a county final that stops and starts etc etc! Then you will be bitching about how much the county have asked you to pay in, and how poor the game was etc etc.

Your County Final is the biggest Hurling match of the year and should go to Referee's with the relevant experience, Hasson, Elliott or Duffy these lads have proved themselves on the big stage this year and have had good exposure, Elliott I believe is doing the All Ireland Intermediate camogie final at the weekend, seen him this year as well as the other lads, and before you say it Mathews is too heavy and not fit enough from what I seen at Dunloy not so long ago. Personally I would plum for Hasson.

Watched both semis, thank god I didn't have to pay in. Cushendal v ballycastle was poor and the conditions and light was also. Both teams struggled to get any flow and the Ref looked a bit like "Sludden", i.e. a carrying 2 stone extra and not able to keep up with play! Seemed quite arrogant and shouted a lot at the players and blew a lot for menial challenges without taking conditions into account. Cushendal need to up the tempo and spread the play, struggled to find any momentum and wiil need to do their homework if they are to progress from Antrim.

Last nights game had a bit of bite to it, Dunloy looked tired and Loughguil definitely had a game plan, that boy Watson is some operator, freedom of the forward line and drew two/three men with him in doing so, scored a magnificent point Midway through the second half. On the referee, he blew what I can only assume was for delaying the puck out one time, bit strange to say the least, caught the incident near the end perfectly and gave just deserts, and seemed consistent on the overcarrying for both sides and stayed out of it which is good to see for a change. Physical encounter to say the least, great atmosphere and Loughguil will be hard to beat.

As far as Ulster is concerned, I feel the Down winners may actually surprise everyone.

For Sure!! called it spot on, he's a twat and woods pushed him through, gaa people have the right to know, and he should be suitably embarrasssed that's Seamus I mean, Sludden should never get another game at National!!!!!

Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM

    Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters?? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc


Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus! Fck disgrace poor Louth

Told you so, ah its great to get a call spot on!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM

    Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters?? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc


Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus!

Absolute disgrace, but hate to say " Told you so", and I did!!! No going back now Seamus

Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters?? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc

Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus!

[has been all over Ireland refereeing]

Our sport has no place for players or mentors who abuse officials. Tommy has been all over Ireland refereeing , doing his best as a volunteer with the GAA he has no need to take verbal abuse from anyone. If there are guilty people I hope they are punished and punished heavily , for far too long people get away with it and it continues .
If we want to set an example to our youth we must have zero tolerance , I must add we must be leaders in society and show we are for good example and high standards - let the North Antrim Board show leadership now .
Dunloy remember if you do the crime do the time.
We must be leaders , I sometimes wonder about  Dunloy , at recent matches some of the language and comments from ex players is disgusting so I am not surprised at this latest verbal abuse case.The Dunloy club needs to weed these people out and tell them to stay at Celtic Soccer matches.

As probably the most experienced current referee in Antrim and having been all over the country refereeing you would think then that he wouldnt fall down on a technical rule. As somebody has said already you can turn a side line in to a free and move forward it 13m. After that you have to issue a yellow card and can't bring it forward another 13m. Of course making an error of judgement in a pressure situation doesnt justify verbal abuse.

Fairhead this is where the rules are a little bit grey.

You can move the ball 13 meter several times if the ref thinks this is required.

Tommy is not one for handing out yellow cards with a min left I'm sure tommy saw no point in issuing a yellow card as this would have been wiped in extra time

Oisinog, the rule is not grey at all, you cannot move the ball several times if you feel like it, would suggest you study the rules again and this is a prime example of why we have so many problems in the game, and again to be boring and factual yellow cards follow into extra time, its just the players and additional subs than differ if I understand it correct

Antrim have had their fair share of GD trying to make a match of it with every other Ulster team.

Plus Hassan is one of the better refs on his day.

Hassan doesn't seem to have any of his better days when a Down team is playing, club or county.

Tommy Mac is like that when Dunloy are playing IMO. Have seen him deliver top class performances elsewhere. Actually he didn't do too bad last night if I'm honest. Both teams played hard but fair and he let the game go I thought to the right degree. It was the sideline cut issue which left everybody bamboozled and seeing as it was a decision which had a massive impact on the game...emotions ran high. Is changing a sideline to a free in the rule book? No one I spoke to had seen it before?

It is if you read the rule book properly, moving it on a further 13metre however isn't so on that one he is incorrect, you can only advance 13m once then your into yellow cards etc etc. Skull maybe this is the problem, no-one knows the actual rules of the game and thus the frustration when a knowledgeable Ref implements them?

My press sources have brought to my attention for you lads in Antrim. That a prominent duel Belfast club on the falls road was approached by a local sports gear supplier to put an advert on the wall that faces the falls road, the club chairman and also a prominent county official allegedly would only allow the advert to go up on the wall if it had his sons picture on it. Well any truth in all this, must say it gave me a laugh. Jesus this takes the biscuit, does his lad play on the county team, checked back didn't see the name anywhere unless i have been given the wrong name!

Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters?? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc

Well not long back, but one consolation is that I made the right call on the Ref, Mr Woods must be suitably embarrassed! Just not championship material is Sludden, totally off the pace to far away on most of the decisions..........