Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 29, 2015, 06:43:34 PMAnd as I've proven a few posts back, he has delivered in the games when the pressure comes around. Most of the games you cited as backups to what you say were games that he scored five or six points. Donaghy? An absolute pig's arse of a player.Quote from: Darby on September 29, 2015, 03:56:57 PMQuote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 29, 2015, 03:50:31 PMHe is the greatest forward of his generation. Greatest forward I've seen. He played very well in a lot of the games you're peddling as bad performances. He was surrounded by great Kerry players in a lot of those matches, and still stood out as their best player in a lot of them. You're saying he's not even a great footballer. You think Donaghy's great. You know very little about football.Quote from: Darby on September 29, 2015, 03:47:30 PMQuote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 29, 2015, 03:44:52 PMOnly 0-3 from play? Okay then, he didn't have a great game I suppose then. Especially seeing as Bradley and Muldoon outscored him. Safe to say he had a really, really bad game then.Quote from: Darby on September 29, 2015, 03:22:46 PMQuote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 29, 2015, 10:40:45 AM
Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:
Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average
Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.
Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.
Cooper should be judged under different standards to others. He's the guy who we are told us the greatest forward of his generation. There are a good 6 or 7 forwards playing in Ulster alone in his era I'd have ahead of him.
Great forwards do it when it really, really matters. Donaghy generally did it when they needed him, look at how he won them an All Ireland last year. Cooper just collapses when the pressure come round.
A great flat track bully but not a great player.
Actual big games where Cooper didn't play well (unlike your hilariously inaccurate list)
02 v Armagh, 03 v Tyrone, 06 v Armagh (he is well known to have struggled in 06 following his father's death), 08 v Monaghan, 12 v Donegal, 15 v Dublin. 6 games in 14 seasons. Not all that bad at all.