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I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.

You've conceded plenty over the years tho so get off the high horse.
Glen's record in the comp speaks for its self. However the way it's now scheduled has turned it into a farce with little interest from all.

I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.

and what's your club mr expert?

Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

Care to name me a club that fields an under21 team without any minors?

Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Is Conor Glass the Derry captain?  He could cap off some underage career if he ends up winning the All Ireland.  Is he underage next year?

Yes, he's the Derry captain.
No. Not underage next year. He turns 18 in Sept or Oct I believe.

Surely imalgamations are born out of sheer necessity ?. I'd be confident that in most cases, clubs don't want to join up with other clubs, who are usually bitter rivals.

They are but it can be open to abuse.

Can you give an example?

3 or 4 years ago an amalgamation won the Cavan minor championship. One of the amalgamated clubs won the league on their own before joining up with another to win the championship. Good enough example??

They did - but that was a challenge game, I also doubt Ramor weren't at full strenght as good as Glen are were..

maybe had a flu bug as well?

[Ramor weren't an amalgamation last year. They were hit by a flu bug before the Silverbridge Semi last year, I think they would have the Ulster Minor Club otherwise]

Why the issue with it? It gives players a chance of playing at a high standard rather then going alone in Divison 2 or Divison  3 Minor Championship.


Not all Clubs are amalgamted - Ramor weren't an amalgamation last year. They were hit by a flu bug before the Silverbridge Semi last year, I think they would have the Ulster Minor Club otherwise

It also helps the County Minor and U21 teams - amalgamations..

Maybe so but I doubt it. Glen played Ramor in a challenge last year and put 20 points on them.

My Alma Mater is 2nd .... Derry 1 & 2 leading the way in terms of best school's!

These 2 schools have the highest rates of dropout when their students go to university. Pushed, mollycoddled and spoon fed all their way through school, then can't cope when it comes to surviving on their own in the big world.

How many games unbeaten at minor level are the Watty's?

Do Derry have a minor league?

2013
8 Minor League games- won 7 were given the points for 1
3 Championship games (Derry)
2 cup games
2 Championship games to date (Ulster)

2012
10 minor league games-won 10 (guess)
2 championship games (Derry)
3 cup games
3 championship games (ulster)

2011
Memory not that good especially as it's not my club. Can at least say they won all the championship games in Derry and Ulster

2012 would maybe be a bit of a guess. Number of teams in the A league vary from year to year. This year there were 9 teams. Last year there were 6 teams and it was a 2 way league. They got a bye to the semi final that year.

Would be a shame they didn't win at least an Intermediate

I suppose they don't have the luxury of poaching from the whole of West Belfast plus Fermanagh

[Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.]

Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

I would very much doubt that you're a Glen man as your posts show you have serious issues with the club!

Also please get your facts right - Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.

Ah here do you not think the player in question posting a photo of the incident was the main factor in the suspension?!

That may/may not be the case but how is does that infer that Glen Club have been petitioning for sanctions against Duffy? The player in question wasn't acting on behalf of the Glen club. It was done in a personal capacity (and IMO was 100% correct in doing so).

Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

I would very much doubt that you're a Glen man as your posts show you have serious issues with the club!

Also please get your facts right - Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.