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#1
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 03:02:40 PM
By sounds of it not many players covered themselves in glory at weekend so i suppose there are still a lot of positions up for grabs. Wonder will there be many changes between now and start of c'ship? I wouldnt like to be picking the team.
#2
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept


Are you reading my passage?? Nobody has asked for red carpet treatment... And I am not interested in what went on in casement bar...
But I was told by a person from Carey and a person from creggan who were at the game that cushendall players would not pass to Loughgiel players on the field..All i was asking is if anyone could confirm this or were these two seperate individuals seeing something different???

this is a total nonense shamrock, eddy scored two points, one was form a puk out won from dd but the second was a pass from micko i think out to the wings where he he was standing in space. joey and barney didnt get get into the game at all thats nobody elses fault. DD played a blinder its good to have him back.

OK thats fine, as i said i only wanted to raise the issue as it was pointed out to me by two people who were at the game. I wasnt at it so i cant judge for myself. As per the replies on here it must have been false info i received so i can drop the issue.  I heard DD played very well and also confirmed in Irish news so fair play to him.  I enquired about how the Loughgiel contingent played and was told DD was very good, Eddie was in and out of it and that things improved a little when Barney and Joey came in. But it was a Loughgiel person told me that so maybe biased..

So where do we go now? Seems very doom and gloom at the moment.
#3
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: groundlie on April 03, 2012, 10:32:56 AM
I heard that Jerry was running about trying to speak with a thick loughgeil ulster scots accent trying to mock the loughgeil boys. Not on!

First one was funny but dont be thinking ur on a roll now..lol
#4
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 11:15:31 AM
I know it sounds petty but in all honesty im not nit picking on a club level, im saying as an antrim man i hope that club differences can be put aside for the betterment of antrim hurling.  Theres nothing I want more than to see antrim striving towards an all ireland quarter final and hopefully a semi final which if everyone was firing on all cylinders could be a realistic goal! Id also love to see come the end of the year 2-3 antrim hurlers in the position to be all star nominees! Also something that is not beyond the realms! But based on the current standing this seems a million miles away but I think the players are there to make a bit of inroads this year if they can really drive on and pull together!
#5
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: groundlie on April 03, 2012, 10:24:15 AM
I heard that Winker offered Dick O'Kane a dance off in Casement bar, Dick nodded his head in agreement and without speaking left to get his favorite dancing shoes. On Dicks return to Casement Winker had left claiming Dick had blanked him. For god sake Winker the man was only going to get his dancing shoes! The funny thing is if the proposed dance off had taken place we wouldnt be talking about all this today!

LOL. Is this a reliable source? I think im going to go with this story!
#6
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2012, 10:22:07 AM
The "not passing the ball claim" is ridiculous, but is in keeping with some of the other stuff.

OK I'll take ur word for it but i was only following up on two reports I got from independant sources.  But if you say its untrue then thats good for antrim! Because we'd be going nowhere with an attitude like that!
#7
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept


Are you reading my passage?? Nobody has asked for red carpet treatment... And I am not interested in what went on in casement bar...
But I was told by a person from Carey and a person from creggan who were at the game that cushendall players would not pass to Loughgiel players on the field..All i was asking is if anyone could confirm this or were these two seperate individuals seeing something different???
#8
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!
#9
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 02, 2012, 10:19:51 PM
Didnt make it to game on sunday either, was hoping to get up but didnt work out. So how bad was it? Did anyone come away with any dignity? How did Barney play? I see he came on in the paper..
#10
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 30, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
Can we divert our attentions back to the game this weekend? Any news on Limerick team? How are they lining out? I think we can be there abouts going into last ten so im not ruling out an antrim victory! Especially after the long days travelling for Limerick the day before.
#11
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 29, 2012, 04:28:32 PM
shefflin*
#12
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 29, 2012, 04:27:50 PM
Fair point two hands, quite often if things are going against us its easy to haul off a corner forward or full forward when in fact they may be working off scraps the whole game. As i said i wasnt at the Laois game but perhaps we need to bare in mind that if the supply isnt going in then it doesnt matter if you have joe canning, henry sheffling and eddie brennan on the full forward line.  Which brings me back to my earlier point, big work rate needed from number 8 to 15 to ensure ball isnt turned easily and that when it goes in it stays in!
#13
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 29, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
In fairness I wasnt at the last match v Laois so prob unfair to comment on Micko and Carson but just going on reports. Lets hope they can do the business on Sunday!  What about young cricky mcguiness is he still injured or whats the story with him? Looked like a real prospect last year..
#14
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 29, 2012, 02:47:34 PM
in fairness to gettens its his position to lose at the minute, and if he doesnt put a foot wrong then he'l be difficult to drop. but the defence is not the trouble here and rarely is. its gettin the front 6 or even front 8 (mid field included) working together with a high intensity that will be the key. if they make it difficult for opposing defenders to clear the ball coupled with a bit more clinical finishing then it leaves the teams that bit tighter for that bit longer and as the belief grows then results shouldnt be too far away. sounds siple but all boils down to work rate, desire and working as a team. I really dont think the ability is too much in question.
#15
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 29, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Its from now on that players will have to nail a place down, not many games left til c'ship. I prefer Simon McCrory as a back but i suppose we have an abundance of defenders so no harm pushing him up the field. Great athlete and strength, maybe lacks a little on the creative side.  Carson and Herron have point to prove but maybe we will get a look at a few of the lads on the bench and see how the team balances. Diffcult to know where we stand as Watson/Campbell not back and if the team is going to work as a unit they need to play as a unit in as many games as possible.