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My sister is an A&E nurse and they have been told elderly patients with COVID-19 are not to be resucitated.

So if Prince Charles was diabetic and was admitted to a hospital they would let him die even though he has a very mild dose of COVID-19?  That's basically Euthanasia.

I think below gets round the privacy concerns with WhatsApp.  If you create a broadcast list in WhatsApp then send a message to all the members in the list 'Who is available for the match Friday?' each member of the group gets an individual message and replies only goes to you.

https://blog.interactiveschools.com/blog/whatsapp-broadcast-what-do-you-need-to-know

You can keep using the broadcast list every week once you send your first message by replying to your first message without having to re-enter all the members names (and can remove members from the broadcast list).

The plural of anecdote is not data. How many deaths under 40 for example and are they statistically significant ?

Not insignificant. Mortality rates for 30-39:
China: 0.2%
Italy: 0.3%

It looks like if your under 30, your gonna survive, however that does not mean you escape hospitalisation. See table 1 here for SK data which shows hospitalisation across all age groups:
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30150-8/fulltext


But note, the point is not about under 40s - unless you believe 99% of the population is under 40 year old. It doesn't align with the oxford study.

The article is claiming most people who get it don't know they have it so they are not being counted in the numbers.

e.g.

1000 people under 40 have Corona Virus don't know they have it as they have very mild symptoms and don't see a doctor.  All recover.
1000 people with underlying health issues are tested and 100 have it and 5 die.

5/100 = 5% will be the recorded death rate of those tested.

5/1100 = 0.45% will be the death rate if all the other people who are not being tested where being tested.

Interesting article below I think. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8138675/PETER-HITCHENS-shutting-Britain-REALLY-right-answer.html

I believe a significant proportion of people are silent in their doubt about the proportionality of the approach being taken for fear of people saying they are 'siding with the nazis'.  People like Alex Ferguson and Harry Redknapp going to Cheltenham with 100 thousand other people or Stanley Johnston going to the pub are more or less saying they don't believe they are at significant risk.  The last time I was in the butchers a couple of days half the people in the queue looked like they were pensionable age.

Relative to.the commonly accepted definition of a pandemic.
Mortality 150% of the usual.

It looks like being nowhere near that..

Obviously we need to reduce infection rates but I honestly think the level of panic is overdone.

150% of the usual what?

If mortality rate of "usual" flu is 0.1%, and COVID-19 is 1%, then that is 1000% of "the usual". Current estimates are COVID-19 has mortality rate nearer 5%, so just the 5000% of "the usual" - assuming you are using flu as your yardstick for "the usual".

Sorry perhaps I'm just not getting your figures but 0.1 % to 1% is 0.9 difference , where does the 1000% come in ?

1% is 100 times 0.1%

Honestly have to admit I thought it was only ten times as much , shows you how daft I am in reality

It is

100% of 20 is 20, (20x1).
50% of 20 is 10  (20x0.5).
1000% of 20 is 200 i.e.  (20x10).

How long is lockdown in Ireland predicted to last for?  Most people could survive with no wages for a month (well me anyhow, even if that meant using credit card etc.) but there is rates bill, car MOT coming up, mortgage payment, gas/electric bill.  I'd be ****** in fairly short order if I was given a months notice with no prospects of another job in short term.

140000 already laid off in south of Ireland and that is not including e.g.  the taxi driver who is working at a loss while no one is going anywhere.

https://gulfnews.com/world/europe/140000-workers-laid-off-in-ireland-over-coronavirus-1.1584378228672

I think every country will be very different. I am not sure if anyone has said it but Flybe going under is probably a bit of a blessing. 25% less flights. (To the 6 anyway)

It's not a blessing for all the people who have kids/rent/ mortgages to pay and get 3 weeks redundancy pay.

Not great for the 95 baggage handlers who have lost there jobs either.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/redundancy-plans-for-95-baggage-handlers-at-belfast-city-airport-devastating-39037728.html

People need to watch more Bear Grylls if the first priority is to stock a whole lifetime supply of toilet rolls.

Since 2004 we've had

SARS
AVIAN
SWINE
MERS
ZIKA
EBOLA
CORONA

and a thread on quite a few of them.

As of now there have been approximately 3,500 deaths reported, about the same number of people die daily in car accidents. 

"Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!" - Homer Simpson on lowering the speed limit.

Places like Singapore have had transmission in churches and no longer have big services, but their economy is still operating.

If everyone avoids going to the cinema, pub .. how would economies keep operating?  If i'm thinking of getting a new tv surely I should avoid going into the local store which would affect the profitability of the business which would impact on staffing numbers, suppliers etc.?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/business/stock-market-covid-19.html

I could well be wrong but to me it seems that the threat has been blown out of proportion.

2-12 to 0-8 in Ballyshannon.

Up to five points now with a much superior points difference to Mayo. Point from last two games SHOULD do it.

Black cards ended the game as a contest. Not sure Monaghan were at leaving McBrearty all alone for Beggan to drag him down 25 yards out.

What are donegals last two games ?

Tyrone and Kerry

Mayo last 2 games Galway and Tyrone. They probably need to win both

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/14/health-insurance-medical-bankruptcy-debt

Over 1/2 a million people a year in the US go bankrupt due to medical costs. No one in the UK, Ireland, Canada .. go bankrupt because of medical Bill's. Over 20% of people in US reported struggling to pay health insurance. How could it not be a major election issue.

I have it on good authority from somebody quite senior working in the Data Protection Commission that they have never been asked their opinion on this by the GAA and that if they were the status quo could very easily be allowed to remain in place simply by asking people for permission to opt in to a group or groups.

I'm not a GDPR expert, but I guess one of the concerns is that when you join your kid up for the u10s you're not being informed that your number is going to be added to the u10s whatsapp group where every other parent parent can view your number. I do think this  is a legitimate concern for some people. The local school teacher may not wish for everyone to view their mobile number. I have seen some prominent GDPR experts whose opinion i respect on twitter saying the gaa are right in regard to their concerns.

However GAA HQ seem very naive to think they can build their own inhouse communications system that will need to be secure and user friendly.

I agree with above on some people having legitimate concerns about giving out there phone number to a large group of people.

I think the gaa are also covering there *ss by advising groups not to use whatsapp.

If a person raised an objection that they where being pestered by someone that got there number from there kids WhatsApp group or that little Johnnie kicking a point is being forwarded to a group of people they do not know the GAA hierarchy can hold there hands up and say 'nothing to do with us, they are breaking GAA official policy'.

100 points from 34 games for Liverpool which seems rediculous in a game like soccer were a lot of games are won by 1 goal.

They play Shrewsbury on the 4th Feb and then don't have another match until the 15th so they can't complain too much about fixture congestion.  Sounds more like most of the team have holidays booked for straight after the Southampton game on the 1st Feb that they are not for changing.

Any time a manager says they are 'down to the bare bones' or that they are 2 players short should raise alarm bells.  Klopp got Liverpool to the champions league final before he signed Allison and VVD.  Alex Ferguson won his last league title with Welbeck up front.  Unless they sign a player like Messi or Neymar a new signing will probably only improve the team a little.  Letting players like Lukaku, Smalling, Young etc. go and not considering Rashford might pick up an injury or be fatigued with a long season seems like a mistake right now.  They have spent about 1 billion pounds since Ferguson left, the Glazers probably want to see how Ole gets on with the players he has got before buying a lot of new players.

They will keep him until end of season. They are 5pts behind Chelsea in 4th. Chelsea aren't consistent either so they can be caught. United have the Europa League also.

If they were to change in the summer, I'd like to see Allegri over Pochettino. Spurs always seemed to fade away under Pochettino. They made the CL final but the league form was poor in that period. The year Leicester won the title Spurs were in a good position, ann and went into a meltdown.

Spurs league form was great in this period (for Spurs).

5th
3rd
2nd
4th and champions league final

He didn't spend much money and brought through a lot of players from their academy.  Also every year Harry Kane seemed to spend at least 2 months out injured.

Spurs form dipped on a few occasions. . Yes they  finished 3rd but they had a chance of winning the League and ended up 3rd. They finished 4th last season but were Poor in the league from February.  It was poor competition from outside the top 4 ,which kept them 4th

Maybe but I might be in the minority in thinking they overachived with the players they had in general.

Take the starting team that knocked man city out of champions league last year as an example, I don't think its an exceptional team.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spurs+team+man+city+champions+league&oq=spurs+team+man+city+champions+league&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l3.10553j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sie=m;/g/11fk7q_7qp;2;/m/0c1q0;ln;fp;1;;