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Those were always the correct grades to play however Feile is still u15 and County minors are u17. Those need resolved also. Antrim stuck with odd numbers for the year so St Paul's will be u17 also.

We just need to see the least worst option for the fixtures.

Option 1
U12, U16 & U20 now with U14 & U18 in the summer
Lads aged 12/13 and 16/17 suffer a 13 month break from u13/u17 ended last year.
U15 competition for Feile will have to be run along side u16's.
Lads aged 18 will be in College before minors finish.

Option 2
U14 & U18 now with U12, U16 in the summer
Forget about u20's as club leagues will be up and running
U18's get messed about by progress of County u17's.


At least grading will be easy to resolve. Same as last year unless you won or finished bottom.

Where did you see that St Paul's sticking with U17?

Antrim are sticking with u17 for another year so I am assuming they will do the same as it is still the mandated national age level.

What direction are you likely to go with the Paul McGirr?

I would imagine U16 like it always was. Problem is fitting it in the calendar with schools taking priority in winter months

Those were always the correct grades to play however Feile is still u15 and County minors are u17. Those need resolved also. Antrim stuck with odd numbers for the year so St Paul's will be u17 also.

We just need to see the least worst option for the fixtures.

Option 1
U12, U16 & U20 now with U14 & U18 in the summer
Lads aged 12/13 and 16/17 suffer a 13 month break from u13/u17 ended last year.
U15 competition for Feile will have to be run along side u16's.
Lads aged 18 will be in College before minors finish.

Option 2
U14 & U18 now with U12, U16 in the summer
Forget about u20's as club leagues will be up and running
U18's get messed about by progress of County u17's.


At least grading will be easy to resolve. Same as last year unless you won or finished bottom.

Where did you see that St Paul's sticking with U17?

well I'm saying 15s as it was set in stone in terms of a start date and teams fully preparing for

keeping it may cause less disruption and allow most other even ages to come in..maybe throw in a 14 championship later in year ?

just suggesting

Nothing has been set in stone. Clubs have known this vote has been coming for weeks. It's actually shame on the county board for allowing it to carry on so long without taking the clubs in to have the vote to make plans.

They have been dragging their heels, creating this delay. Maybe there is no appetite for in in Garvaghy or the fact there is no CCC chairperson in place has left them without a decision maker. This delay falls on Sludden

Clubs and the county board knlynlearned last weekend about the option to change, clubs had 9 days to think about it, vote tonight and hopefully new dates out by weekend. I can't see how we could have moved any quicker than that

Kerry getting scorable free's handed to them here for fun, it's a joke so far

Kerry v Monaghan - Kerry
Galway v Roscommon - Galway
Tyrone v Donegal - Tyrone
Armagh v Mayo - Armagh

Meath v Clare - Meath
Kildare v Cork - Kildare
Louth v Derry - Derry
Limerick v Dublin -Dublin

Down v Antrim -Down
Cavan v Tipperary -Cavan
Offaly v Fermanagh Fermanagh
Longford v Westmeath -Longford

Waterford v Carlow -Waterford
London v Leitrim - London
Wicklow v Sligo - Sligo
Laois v Wexford - Laois

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time

Gie them 20s to get off then yellow card them if they arent off in that time

They are coming off anyway so unless they are already on a yellow card then they are not going to worry about getting one. It's not like soccer where yellow cards are totted up and you get suspended once you get a certain amount

Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

You see how long it takes a soccer player to walk off when he wants to waste time? Then treble that as a player at the far corner of a GAA pitch (a smart manager would tell the player coming off to head to the far corner before sub is signalled) would have nearly 3 times as far to go, at walking or limping pace this would take too much time 

It's up to each county what they want to do and whatever they want to do can start this year, they don't have to wait to 2024 to change

[clubs will vote next tues on it,]

My source tells me the ccc knew about the weekends mtg well in advance and jumped the gun by sending out the initial age groups and fixture dates..  clubs will vote next tues on it,,

Let's hope that the majority of the clubs have common sense and get it back to the old gradings for this season.

Will 18 year olds be allowed to play adult football if it changes back to 14/16/18. That will be the deciding factor - many clubs (if not all) need their 18 year olds at adult level to insure 2 teams playing every weekend. Reserve football will suffer immensely if 18 year olds are not allowed to play in 2023

There is an option that 18 year olds can play senior if the clubs vote for it

hearing the co board will change all youth age groups back to 8-10-12-14-16-18  for this season this week after sending out groups & start dates to clubs a few weeks back based on 9-11-13-15-17-19..15s were due to start in a few weeks.
another mess.
I welcome this change for next year but not now when teams already out training and the county ages are staying as is.

Is this true? Teams have been entered for U19 competition so is this just scrapped again. Martin Sludden has had a nightmare start to his tenure, what is the shortest term for a county chair to date?

How is this the CCC's fault for gods sake. They put out the dates early so every club could start making preparations then this weekend GAA at Croke Park decided that county's could decide their own age groups. The CCC moved as quickly as possible to let all clubs know that headquarters had changed plans (after all the old age groups are what nearly every club wants) and next week Tuesday it will be decided what age groups the county is going to go with, giving the clubs a week to decide what they prefer. Instead of criticising the CCC, they have to be congratulated as they have moved as soon as possible to give the clubs what they wanted, I would say they have moved quicker than any other county. If clubs don't want it they can stick with the U15, U17 etc but at least they will have a choice

What's the chances of Glenn being invited to the kilmacud sevens this July like all the other county champions?

For those that are saying the additional player didn't matter, have a look at the last seconds of the semi against Kerin's O'Rahilly's, Kerin's needed a last second goal to win (or maybe it was to equalise), high ball dropped into the box was flicked on and who was on the goal line to catch the ball and prevent the goal, only the boul Mullin.

Monaghan v Armagh - Armagh
Mayo V Galway - Galway
Roscommon v Tyrone - Tyrone
Donegal v Kerry - Donegal

Derry v Limerick - Derry
Dublin v Kildare - Dublin
Cork v Meath - Cork
Clare v Louth - Clare

Fermanagh v Longford - Fermanagh
Tipperary v Down - Down
Westmeath v Cavan - Cavan
Antrim v Offaly - Antrim

Carlow v Wicklow - Wicklow
Wexford v London - London
Leitrim v Waterford - Leitrim
Sligo v Laois - Sligo

In the very last play, the short 45, the Glen full back just had to get the slightest of touches to that show and they were All Ireland champions, he tried to fist ti too hard and missed it, it's a game of inch's as they say. Not sure about Glen being back as if the rumours are true O'Rourke is leaving

Glen have been a second half team all year, this gonna be tight