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Shocker!! Politicians rips the arse out of tax payers !! Thread Started by a teacher.... who really gives a feck?? Cause we'll keep on voting them in! maybe if we paid them 30 grand a year and no expenses we might get some decent people in

1.  Not a teacher

2. What is your problem? If you don't like the thread, just walk away, move on, nothing to see.

The man has definitely got a problem.  On numerous threads you'll find him commenting for no other reason other than to berate others for commenting.  It's weird.

Not commenting on how stupid something is would be more of a disservice than not doing it.

Discussion. Not echo chamber. Remember that.

Not much sense being made here.

Far from a Syferus fan, but strikes me you are being willfully ignorant there Franko. Very easy to understand and something I agree with.

Milltown as for your reference to nurses and vocation, I've had more experience across many different hospitals than most people will have in their lifetime, and very few come across as having a real vocation for the job. The lack of empathy displayed by most of the health professionals I have come across really shocked me, because I had previously thought of it as a job with a vocation but personal experience tells me otherwise.

Maybe that says more about you than them.

Not sure I follow you Charlie, care to explain?. I'm not saying there aren't people with a vocation for it, just saying there are a hell of a lot for whom it is not a vocation. Small sample size granted, but in my experience it is a clear minority who appear to have the vocation.

[What is your problem? If you don't like the thread, just walk away, move on, nothing to see.]

Shocker!! Politicians rips the arse out of tax payers !! Thread Started by a teacher.... who really gives a feck?? Cause we'll keep on voting them in! maybe if we paid them 30 grand a year and no expenses we might get some decent people in

1.  Not a teacher

2. What is your problem? If you don't like the thread, just walk away, move on, nothing to see.

The man has definitely got a problem.  On numerous threads you'll find him commenting for no other reason other than to berate others for commenting.  It's weird.

Not commenting on how stupid something is would be more of a disservice than not doing it.

Discussion. Not echo chamber. Remember that.

Not much sense being made here.

Far from a Syferus fan, but strikes me you are being willfully ignorant there Franko. Very easy to understand and something I agree with.

Milltown as for your reference to nurses and vocation, I've had more experience across many different hospitals than most people will have in their lifetime, and very few come across as having a real vocation for the job. The lack of empathy displayed by most of the health professionals I have come across really shocked me, because I had previously thought of it as a job with a vocation but personal experience tells me otherwise.

I'd be more concerned about the fact that he just scrapped the Obama-era rule to tie federal funding of reconstruction to the inclusion of safeguards against increased flooding and so forth going forward.

I think most people are starting to tune out his pathetic neediness when it comes to the "look at me and my crowds and the hats you can buy on my website" stuff.

Good to see Cruz et al. from Texas/Louisiana getting their hypocrisy regarding Sandy funding thrown back in their faces. Christie and Pete King and other Republicans have been very vocal.

So North Korea test a nuke, 6.3 on the richter scale, they have the capability of reaching Chicago allegedly, their rhetoric is very aggressive and my question is what does the world do next to shut this **** down? Sanctions, more sanctions or actual bombing of the shithole?

You seriously think Kim Jung Un will strike first?

Just what does he have to gain? North Korea would be wiped out within hours.

This is all about self-preservation and leverage.

Know f**k all about it, but that would be my take as well. Bannon's quote about not being able to solve the part where 10mn die in Seoul in the first 30 mins is probably not far off the mark. Let's hope Donald doesn't do anything stupid.

McGregor did as well as he could have. 

In terms of anyone criticising for not pacing himself I think that's a bit harsh.  The guy has never had a pro boxing fight.  Boxers that go pro (even if they've got an extensive amateur fight background) would never go into a 12 rounder for their first fight. Usually starting off with a four rounder and building up to 12 over over four or five fights.

McGregor's biggest achievement was talking himself into getting a shot.

Mayweather eclipsing Marciano's record will always be a bit tainted for me.  Not a great way to achieve the record for him against a guy in his first pro fight but he is never going to turn down an easy lucrative pay day.

There was a bit of an outcry from many in the media about pros going in against amateurs for the Olympics on the basis it would be a mismatch.  Never was the same outcry about this one, McGregor was able to get the same people to overlook that by convincing many that he had a chance.  Fair play to him.

I'm not criticising him for not pacing himself rather for not having the stamina to go  anywhere near 12 rounds. Not sure is harsh, there was all this talk about what a dedicated trainer he was, never seen anyone work so hard, forensic in his attention to detail etc.

Turns out that would appear to be complete bullshit (or hype, whatever way you want to look at it) and I don't buy the argument that new pros build through 4,6,8 round fights etc. While true MCGregor has 20 + pro fights and should be in his prime.

I would say it a brutal way to go 50-0 surpassing Rocky Marciano, but its widely accepted he himself got beat over in England in a fight probably an exhibition,way back near the start. Rocky Marciano by all accounts was a gentlemen, Mayweather only worried about himself and his money.

Mayweather could have gone 50-0 two years ago if he wanted that record but sufficient money not on the table for anyone else. He doesn't care about 50-0 per se.

Not seen it yet but sounds like Conor acquitted himself about as well as  expected. That said, from reading the comments here and elsewhere two things stand out

i) his power. Is it real or is it just he couldnt land anything clean on Mayweather?
ii) the notion of him being a supreme athlete seems to have been blown apart. Why did he gas so early?

If he didn't make a $100mn I think there would be serious questions asked of Kavanagh.

Mechant asks Mayweather why he is boring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYA49V_P4qs

I just feel sorry for the people who paid $30,000 to go watch Floyd score points lol the point system is used in case that there is no TKO or KO not be exploited 

If you cant appreciate Mayweather as a boxer you haven't a clue. Period.

I would pay big money to see Mayweather and Broner fight. Two of them doing shoulder rolls and too busy waiting to counter each other's counter punches would be so unreal!!

I get that you don't think he is the most exciting fighter and I agree. Watch Gatti, Morales, Barrera etc for that. However if you can't acknowledge his genius inside the ring then you have no appreciation of boxing whatsoever.

[It was supposed to be Universal healthcare]

At the risk of lighting a touchpaper, How was Obama care supposed to work? 

Did it mean that everyone was supposed to able to  buy health insurance?  I thought it was a form of NHS/HSE healthcare?  Was it?

It was supposed to be Universal healthcare, everyone was supposed to have it, Obama had noble intentions but they simply ram stammed it home and promises were made that you could keep your current GP/ Neurologists to push it trough, that was not the case and Obama lied to the people.

You got fined if you did not buy insurance and the younger you were the more of the burden you were going t carry over your lifetime, in other words the young carried the old under Obamacare.

If you were unemployed and at the lower end of the financial spectrum you got help and in fairness millions did benefit from it, the insurance companies started losing money and a lot of HMO's pull the plug in certain States. it is and was a monumental undertaking however the disastrous rollout for me encapsulated the Obama Presidency in a nutshell.

The companies that did not up stakes increased their premium year over year on average 53%, depending on who you listen to, sadly I see no end to the Obamacare debacle as the Republicans are just as inept and clueless and the Dems were ad that is bad news for the American people.

No it wasn't.

The fact that you are so angry at about something you clearly do not understand is the Republican voter mindset personified.

I am not angry about anything to do with Obamacare, I had the absolute best healthcare a man could want for his family and I merely offered my opinion on Obamacare[/b].

WTF are you on about? What am I angry about now ffs?

It wasn't meant to be universal health care. The ACA is actually a compromise bill, based on the Romneycare Massachusetts model. That Republican format was forced on Obama by the GOP initially, who were allowed and encouraged to participate in drawing up the bill. So after he had moved rightwards, after the Republicans had tabled hundreds of amendments that were considered during the committee stage, after they had blocked the government providing a public option for private insurance, which would have forced all insurance companies to price competitively or go out of business (of course the insurance companies spent millions lobbying the GOP to make sure that happened), the Republicans walked away from it and still didn't vote for it. Obama's big mistake was in not pushing the public option once it was clear that the GOP were engaging in sabotage rather than negotiation.

It was billed as Universal healthcare when it was being promoted by the left, that is a fact.

And then they push the line that it was "rammed" through, despite a full 10 months consideration, and complete adherence to parliamentary precedent. And people like you lap that up, throw out figures like 53% premium rises that you can't back up, and even if there was rises of that size, that is what the subsidies are there for. Of course, if there was a public option, those subsidies would not be needed in their present volume.

A simple google search will back me up, the fact HMOs left Obamacare will back me up.

So you post online, in sadness and rage about a subject that, objectively, given that you think Obamacare was a failed attempt at universal healthcare, you don't even understand. You don't use unbiased sources, you don't do the maths, you don't consider the policy, and all you give us on this board is incoherent, primal screams about corrupt Dems - which has basically been the Republican manifesto since the American people had the temerity to put a black man in the Oval office.

I did not post anything in sadness nor rage ffs!

I have met less than five people who I would consider racists who commented on Obama being black with any tainted or warped feelings, two of them were liberals albeit elderly.

Republicans, no matter how much you bleat about race are not racists, you are ignorant on this subject easytiger, f**king ignorant!

Stew, I have no doubt that you met some Dems you thought were corrupt. That does not mean that all Dems are corrupt, or that Hillary was corrupt or that their policies are corrupt.

Hillary is the epitome of corruption, if you cannot see that you are either stupid or in denial, you are in denial in my opinion and I am being kind.

Republicans, on health care, tax reform, environmental issues - in fact everything that would matter to you, as a citizen (former, I know) in your daily life, long ago sacrificed compassion and the public good to crazed, discredited, trickledown, Darwinian, market worshipping ideology - which is nothing more than a beard to disguise the fact that donors pay Republicans to make sure those donors get more money.

Are you kidding me? Americans are capitalists and capitalism has been the single greatest economic power the world has ever seen, you know absolutely f**k all about the American right, you equate people who want people to earn their corn and pay their way with people who do not care about others, that is simply not true, they simply want those who are fit to work to do so, to pay their taxes and contribute to society as a whole, wtf is wrong with that.

I don't mind that you're angry that you're being screwed - but you don't even know who by. And that is sad.

I was screwed by nobody, you have no idea how blessed I was and how successful in life I was during my time living in Green Bay, I have not one thing to be angry about on a personal level save my abject disgust at the slimy, repugnant left I will despise to my dying day, you presume to know me and you do not, I have had the sum total of one GAA board member in my life in my home in the states, we got on well there even though his politics and mine are poles apart, he got a snippet of who I am, plenty of others from Armagh know me and few would agree with me but so what, it is a discussion board for facks sake, I do take umbridge at you presuming to know me because you clearly do not, I will never presume to know you.

Man not ball. Never a good sign in a debate.

Looking at this from a cynical point of view... Could we be looking at a 3 fight series.. McGregor "wins" this one. Mayweather takes the second, setting up the decider. Two great men for marketing, putting on a show and making money!! Though this depends on much value Mayweather puts in his undefeated record.

Nah, that is too Rocky like even for this! Speaking of Rocky I kinda wonder whether will be Mayweather wins easily enough but Conor comes out with credit. Mayweather wins the fight, McGregor wins the night?

Just seen this on the twitter machine from a boxing coach in Bray, sums the whole farce up

@PeteTaylor01 Mayweather Vs McGregor... it's Mayweather for me let's be honest Conor wouldn't win the all Ireland elites @VincentHogan

McGregor will do well to land a glove on Mayweather but the above tweet is utter bollocks. McGregor if nothing else is a committed professional and a huge competitor who has a certain level of boxing skill and is forensic in his preparation. His mindset and uttter willpower would demolish domestic Irish level boxers. The farce comes in the fact that he is fighting the most skilled boxer of our generation. The tweet is consistent with a boxing snob shitting himself that his coaching skills and his sport's reputation could possibly be tarnished by a novice to the game (which it won't). By the way, I believe Mayweather wins as easy as he wants but the snobbery of the boxing pundits and die hards is beginning to grate a little.

Don't think it's snobbery. Conversely think you are doing a disservice to a lot of Irish boxers. McGregor might be fitter but of those who are fit "enough", the skill level is far more important. Stretching the point (just a little...) but Haile Gebressailasse would never get a run out for Kilkenny!

Mechant asks Mayweather why he is boring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYA49V_P4qs

I just feel sorry for the people who paid $30,000 to go watch Floyd score points lol the point system is used in case that there is no TKO or KO not be exploited 

If you cant appreciate Mayweather as a boxer you haven't a clue. Period.

I'm hardly an expert on TV series, but I'd find it hard to believe is the best (actors, script, dialogue etc). I'd also find it incredibly hard to believe there have been many more entertaining series.

Hearing all sorts of rumours regarding the McGuigan split. Anyone know what the craic is?

What you hear??

from another forum:

Reliable informed from a couple of people who know him is that he has been funding the Cyclone organisation for a while. Quite a lot of overheads (especially McGuigan family) and no cash coming in.

He allegedly was not paid for his last fight and had enough.

Hence the  suspicious weigh in....

I've said in the recent past there has been a lot of discord within the group... hopefully there is no nastiness and it is a clean break... I've seen first hand a lot of McGuigan support for Carl, the problem is that the Cyclone promotions is all the McGuigan family, they are all on the payroll, if you are not fighting and earning a purse , people still need to be paid and bills...

Carl was promised more fights but Bary was keen to limit the fights.. I know Carl has at the very least 4/5 fights left and he can hang the gloves up with a great career behind him

Very least or very most? The latter I'd have thought?

Frampton confirms the split

Still using Shane though?

LOL, of course not.  Ties have been cut.  Thats business.  Probably for the best, he was probably scundered with the McGuigans, surprised he stuck them for so long.

Why are you surprised he stuck with Shane McGuigan for so long?

Watched the Crawford fight there.. A serious operator! Not long now to the Alvarez GGG fight, should be some scrap

I know vastly different fighters but struggling to get excited for this knowing how Mayweather schooled Canelo. Styles make fights and all, so interested to hear how much chance people are giving him

Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer's needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.

The conversation with Beric got me thinking, "the shield that defends the realms of men" etc.

What chance Jon Snow doesn't make it.and just dies a hero? Targaryen and Baratheon (even if he is a bastard) to unite a divided land?

Is Ice and Fire about just him because he is Stark and Targaryen or Dany and him?