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[What was in those emails again?]

Russia swung it for him.

Look at your own outrage at the words 'emails'.

What was in those emails again?

Emails shemales......Democratic operatives planted a hidden camera at a closed door Romney fundraiser and broadcast his 47% comment to the world which very possibly cost him the '12 election.

Regardless of how the emails came into the public domai , it was the content that cost them votes.....content that they alone were responsible for

If she was a better candidate, the emails wouldn't have mattered a fluck. Democrats start off with a huge advantage under the electoral college system and she still fvcked it up.....and she ran a shit campaign

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582cacb0e4b058ce7aa8b861/amp

B-b-but you were completely outraged at those emails!

You said you would have supported her if you lived in a swing state. Now what was in those emails that changed your mind? Trump supporters chanted, like a Mugabe mob, 'Lock her up'. For what?

What I do know is that CF charity came in for a very unexpected windfall thanks to Tommy and an editor who didn't seem to find much harm in Tommy's response to Joe's article of the week before.

I doubt if both journalists will stay at the Indo.

Is this is like one of those Games of Thrones Scenes where the winner and loser suddenly realise they are the opposite to what they thought they were?

There are some lines that can't be crossed. Joe put that Conlon w**ker back in his box and rightly so.

The professional V the amateur.
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Do some lads here think that journalists just write about whatever they want, post it in and it goes onto the paper without anyone having a look at it?

Hardly begrudgery pointing out something that's there in black and white.

If you have it in black and white, please show it to us.

[No one is to "blame" for Trump winning....he won it fair and square]

Exactly.

You blame Hillary for Trump winning the Republican primaries.
You blame Hillary for Trump winning the Presidential election.

We'll just have to wait and see if you really stop blaming her for what Trump does in office.

Who ever said I'm "blaming" Hillary for anything

Her campaign contributed to Trumps rise by their collusion with the MSM in promoting a clown candidate. That is a contributing factor, but by no means the only factor that led to him winnng the Republican primary

In the general election, team Clinton scored about ten own goals any one of which could have turpodeod her candidacy.

Maybe my argument is too nuanced for you to comprehend....they contributed to the existence of an environment where he was able to get elected......if you want to twist that into saying I'm blaming Hillary for Trumps win....then knock yourself out

What is MSM - Is it Main Stream Media? As in not Fox News, Breitbart etc??

As for the rest.

Exactly. Call it what you want, but you making my argument for me.

To prove my point, who else is to blame for Trump's victory?

There are many reasons why Trump won and Hillary lost......He didn't JUST win because Hillary did or didn't do X, Y or Z.

For (1) he had a message. (2) He ran a better campaign. (3) He was outside the establishment in a year when that mattered (4) he utilized social media and  other forms of media much more effectively (5) he didn't go into hiding for months on end in an effort to run down the clock

No one is to "blame" for Trump winning....he won it fair and square. Had she been a better candidate who ran a better campaign with a better message he MAY not have won.

Russia swung it for him.

Look at your own outrage at the words 'emails'.

What was in those emails again?

So, France bomb the shit out of Syria a couple of years ago, and the response is the attacks on Paris and also Bastille Day. The Germans welcome refugees and the response is the same. This does not equate. The only logic I can think is an ultimate power is deciding to keep us all in fear, no matter what choice governments make. Keep us all in a state of mania while money is made in a realm that Islam,Christianity, Race does not matter. What matters is the bottom line and the profits of war.

This is it.

Religion, States, Nations, Monarchies, Revolutionaries, Counter-Revolutionaries, Left, Right, etc, etc, etc. Cui Bono?

[I don't care what Trump accepts! Not my problem.]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38397594

In his latest Twitter tirade, President-elect Donald Trump has claimed he could have won more votes than his rival Hillary Clinton.
"I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote - but would campaign differently," he said.

The Republican insisted his strategy was more "sophisticated".

He won nearly three million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate, but prevailed in the electoral college.

The arcane but all-important institution formally certified him earlier this week as winner of the 2016 presidential election.

But the Manhattan billionaire is apparently still chafing at critics' claims that he lacks a popular mandate.

In two other tweets on Wednesday morning, Mr Trump said: "Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!"


There has never been a president like this one. It is going to be a very bumpy ride.

He is incompetent

His behaviour is that of the child who says 'I could have won that if I wanted to'. He is seriously irritated by losing the popular vote. Imagine what happens when someone like Duterte tells him he is the son of a whore and to go to hell.

Last time I checked he did win, you candidate lost, what part of this can you not accept?

He wiped the floor with your gangstee, it's over! be gracious for once.

You don't seem to understand, TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO CANT ACCEPT IT.

Read it again.

I don't care what Trump accepts! Not my problem.

I hated your hero, she is dead, I have no dog to hunt in this fight anymore, clintons career is over people. )

It most certainly is your problem. You will be living with the consequences.

[It doesn't really work any more.]

It doesn't really work any more. Used to be a useful tool, if not overused, in the past but nowadays I think lads would just laugh and someone going buck mad shouting and roaring.

Played in a relegation match for our second team one year and we were 7 or 8 points down at half time. got a serious revving from the manager at half time and it lifted us (plus the row that happened 30 seconds into the second half). Lost by a point or two unfortunately but it definitely lifted a good few of us.

And yet how often do we hear - 'What did you say to them at halftime?' style interviews minutes after a big game ends. Most managers look awkward when asked this.

A Year Till Sunday gave a great insight into a half-time dressing room in an All-Ireland Final. No ranting and raving or things being thrown against the wall.

If I remember correctly JOM did a fair bit of shouting at half-time in the final against Kildare. Didn't f**k anything against the wall right enough.

Like a lot of things it can work as long as you don't overdo it and pick your time and place. Too much of it and players will just tune it out.

I thought he only spoke to the squad for a short time and spent most of the time speaking one-on-one to Ja Fallon. It is a long time since I saw it though.

[And it's as clear as day]

The interview vindicates the players' heave if anything. Holmes and Connelly showed their management style to be from a bygone era. It's authoritarian and dictatorial. Lines like 'players play and managers manage' show how out of touch they were. It's just as well they were able to find a journalist from a bygone era to do their bidding for them.

There is also the alternative management .

I want to get my club -mate on the team by " the senior members of the team"

With all due respect no self respecting county would anything Mayo are doing in relation to managing a top class inter county team

Cliques destroy the common collective of any group. And it's as clear as day there is a clique on the Mayo team dragging  it into the manure business

Again, where did you get this? The Indo?

Are you trying to say there isn't a clique? Sure even before this interview everyone knew that it was the Ballintubber-Breaffy axis that got the heave going. You're not really proving to be a reliable narrator on this when you won't accept what are to even most Mayo supporters basic facts.

You have long claimed Aiden O'Shea tries to get his little brother picked. And you have long been wrong, as he has rarely been picked.

??

I've commented in jest about the younger brother because everyone and their mother knew about the O'Sheas having undue influence on team selection (or designs on it) over the last two seasons. I never seriously heard anything suggesting they were lobbying for their brother too.

My problem with that lad was entirely about him not being good enough for senior. Showed a little in a cameo at the end of this season but still has to convince a lot of people.

So let me gets this right. You claim the O'Shea's have an 'undue influence on team selection'. This despite the ousted management team, who stuck the knife in every way they could (twitter, Toughest Trade etc.), not actually making anything like this claim themselves.

You should also consider Hennelly not playing all summer, Hall not featuring and Conor hardly playing at all.

So who were they picking then?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38397594

In his latest Twitter tirade, President-elect Donald Trump has claimed he could have won more votes than his rival Hillary Clinton.
"I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote - but would campaign differently," he said.

The Republican insisted his strategy was more "sophisticated".

He won nearly three million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate, but prevailed in the electoral college.

The arcane but all-important institution formally certified him earlier this week as winner of the 2016 presidential election.

But the Manhattan billionaire is apparently still chafing at critics' claims that he lacks a popular mandate.

In two other tweets on Wednesday morning, Mr Trump said: "Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!"


There has never been a president like this one. It is going to be a very bumpy ride.

He is incompetent

His behaviour is that of the child who says 'I could have won that if I wanted to'. He is seriously irritated by losing the popular vote. Imagine what happens when someone like Duterte tells him he is the son of a whore and to go to hell.

Last time I checked he did win, you candidate lost, what part of this can you not accept?

He wiped the floor with your gangstee, it's over! be gracious for once.

You don't seem to understand, TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO CANT ACCEPT IT.

Read it again.

[Donald J. Trump]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38397594

In his latest Twitter tirade, President-elect Donald Trump has claimed he could have won more votes than his rival Hillary Clinton.
"I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote - but would campaign differently," he said.

The Republican insisted his strategy was more "sophisticated".

He won nearly three million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate, but prevailed in the electoral college.

The arcane but all-important institution formally certified him earlier this week as winner of the 2016 presidential election.

But the Manhattan billionaire is apparently still chafing at critics' claims that he lacks a popular mandate.

In two other tweets on Wednesday morning, Mr Trump said: "Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!"


There has never been a president like this one. It is going to be a very bumpy ride.

He may well be right here though. You would campaign differently if you wanted to win the popular vote. You'd attack California, New York and other populous cities to at least try and minimise the opponent's wins there.

To win the electoral college, you identify the swing states, regardless of population or demographic, and you spend all your money trying to win them. Hillary Clinton campaigned in Arizona 2 days before the election FFS, rather than making sure she had Michigan and Pennsylvania tied up. That was crazy.

Still at it....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  6h6 hours ago
I have not heard any of the pundits or commentators discussing the fact that I spent FAR LESS MONEY on the win than Hillary on the loss!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38397594

In his latest Twitter tirade, President-elect Donald Trump has claimed he could have won more votes than his rival Hillary Clinton.
"I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote - but would campaign differently," he said.

The Republican insisted his strategy was more "sophisticated".

He won nearly three million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate, but prevailed in the electoral college.

The arcane but all-important institution formally certified him earlier this week as winner of the 2016 presidential election.

But the Manhattan billionaire is apparently still chafing at critics' claims that he lacks a popular mandate.

In two other tweets on Wednesday morning, Mr Trump said: "Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!"


There has never been a president like this one. It is going to be a very bumpy ride.

He is incompetent

His behaviour is that of the child who says 'I could have won that if I wanted to'. He is seriously irritated by losing the popular vote. Imagine what happens when someone like Duterte tells him he is the son of a whore and to go to hell.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38397594

In his latest Twitter tirade, President-elect Donald Trump has claimed he could have won more votes than his rival Hillary Clinton.
"I would have done even better in the election, if that is possible, if the winner was based on popular vote - but would campaign differently," he said.

The Republican insisted his strategy was more "sophisticated".

He won nearly three million fewer votes than the Democratic candidate, but prevailed in the electoral college.

The arcane but all-important institution formally certified him earlier this week as winner of the 2016 presidential election.

But the Manhattan billionaire is apparently still chafing at critics' claims that he lacks a popular mandate.

In two other tweets on Wednesday morning, Mr Trump said: "Campaigning to win the Electoral College is much more difficult & sophisticated than the popular vote. Hillary focused on the wrong states!"


There has never been a president like this one. It is going to be a very bumpy ride.

[The stuff about free speech is just ludicrous when he's sending off solicitors' letters]

Comedy gold from Joe

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-dictator-jim-mcguinness-is-one-to-talk-about-respect-31266683.html

Spot on though. Call it as it is.

The stuff about free speech is just ludicrous when he's sending off solicitors' letters - Free speech as a concept is all about letting people say whatever they what no matter how offensive/wrong you find it.

"I disprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

There you go.

One standard for Joe, one for everyone else.

[And it's as clear as day]

The interview vindicates the players' heave if anything. Holmes and Connelly showed their management style to be from a bygone era. It's authoritarian and dictatorial. Lines like 'players play and managers manage' show how out of touch they were. It's just as well they were able to find a journalist from a bygone era to do their bidding for them.

There is also the alternative management .

I want to get my club -mate on the team by " the senior members of the team"

With all due respect no self respecting county would anything Mayo are doing in relation to managing a top class inter county team

Cliques destroy the common collective of any group. And it's as clear as day there is a clique on the Mayo team dragging  it into the manure business

Again, where did you get this? The Indo?

Are you trying to say there isn't a clique? Sure even before this interview everyone knew that it was the Ballintubber-Breaffy axis that got the heave going. You're not really proving to be a reliable narrator on this when you won't accept what are to even most Mayo supporters basic facts.

You have long claimed Aiden O'Shea tries to get his little brother picked. And you have long been wrong, as he has rarely been picked.