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[If anything it shows Tyrone are up there with Dublin and Kerry in having the full time S&C coach and aren't content with a part timer they way Monaghan still are.]

There is only short term security in professional sports in terms of managers and coaches. At some stage , the management team is sacked and new people take over.Thats why they get paid so well.
GAA is going the same way. New manager leads to new backroom members. You have to make your mark and charge accordingly. Even in club football the gravy train keeps moving on.
What would the career span be for coaches /s &c coaches ? 10 - 15 years ?

Donnelly's role was secure enough, he was a full time registered employee of Tyrone GAA with a remit covering all the S&C needs of Tyrone underage squads up to senior. He's very highly rated which probably explains why a professional setup came and headhunted him for their gig. I don't know how many other counties employ somebody like Donnelly, Dublin probably do and a few others but I think Tyrone were ahead of the curve. In terms of fitness, conditioning and our injury record record then I think the results speak extremely positively for Donnelly but the package on offer from a professional outlet is likely one we can't come close to offering.

Personally i would want noting to do with the shower that is Ulster rugby but i understand why he did, professional set up blah blah.. My issue is that it seems he was just let go. If Leinster rugby come looking a Dublin S&C coach I don't think they would get him at all and if they did they would not get him as easy.

Donnelly on full time contract with Tyrone. Not huge salary but probably decent in GAA circles. Ulster Rugby come calling, offer him a few grand more to do similar job, 9-5, working with academy set up, larger more professional organisation, more room for career progression. Donnelly suggests to Tyrone he could stay on and do S&C for senior team only on a part time evening basis (like vast majority of other counties outside the top tier), Tyrone say no, we want someone full time. All fair enough.
Donnelly then gets the opportunity to do the part time evening set up with Monaghan and make a few extra quid. All seems completely fair on both sides. Nothing to see here, move along.

If anything it shows Tyrone are up there with Dublin and Kerry in having the full time S&C coach and aren't content with a part timer they way Monaghan still are.

Am I missing something here? Davis is only coming in on a part time basis to work with the senior team. We're going to need to go and get someone to work with the U20 and Minor teams to do the work Peter Donnelly did with them...

The reality is Tyrone have a serious problem holding on to any expertise they've got in the way of full time staff. The staff turnover in the last 12-18 months is unreal. Meanwhile we're in the process of building another white elephant at Garvaghey instead of investing in coaching for all our teams not just the elite players

As far as I'm aware Davis being appointed to the same position with the same remit Donnelly had unless I'm missing something?

At that rate i hope he has his mortgage sorted.....

Peter Donnelly had no input into the u20s or u17s this year.
Davis will only be working with the seniors

Yip there was an email on Sunday night to say they refunding everyone. Be interesting to find out how many actually bought it. Bit of a hit on the coffers as the production company will still need paid and they have said it wasn't their fault.

serious financial hit alright considering the crowd at the game was down at least a couple of thousand. Would there have been 2 thousand subscribers at 8 quid?

By the talk of them before game (which worked perfect for me) they were saying there was major numbers involved. There was 6k at the game, I would imagine there would have been just as many (worldwide) subscribed for the online coverage.

Would the general hit to the county boards pocket not be the same if it was 2k or 6k??? Setting aside a some small bank/paypal fees the cost will be the same as they got 8quid in and are giving 8 quid back?

Not too sure of how it runs but I'm sure Tyrone TV has employees to pay/equipment hire (assuming they don't own everything for sake of maybe 10 days a year) / remote technical staff maybe involved / Media Costs...I'm sure big Joe needs paid ?

Southtyronegael talks a bit of sense when you keep him away from the county set up

I have been keeping the powder dry but I'm back. Congrats to Trillick deserving champions. To everyone who gave me abuse about calling them potentially a great team you got your answer today. So the decade ends and three teams won two championships, Omagh coalisland and Trillick.

To moonshine and all of his vast parish... hard luck today. Got what use deserved for being extremely defensive. In reality errigal don't have the stomach for the big day as seen Today again. Petey Harte another big day and no where to be seen. On the bright side they have the league to walk now which should be easily done.

Should be the end of tiffy too. He will point to leagues but two finals waving of the white flags and out battled in carrickmore last year is a poor return for the pick they have.

On a plus side he still has his betfair exchange account 👀

Is tiffy or Pascal Canavan the manager

Funny I was looking through a newspaper from 1980 earlier. It looks like Mountfield were fielding but not Windmill.

Also, and I'd need to check again, was there a youth team called St Albans?

Windmill were playing in the late 80s

Dregish football club apparently is no more. All players transferred to Newtownstewart is the talk.

If true, then that's sad news concerning Dregish, though it seemed inevitable that they would fold sooner or later given that they had no youth teams of their own for many years, and even before then, they were struggling to field players (rules introduced concerning the minimum age of players at different age groups no doubt made that job impossible, no more U14's playing at Minor for example). I'll have to check to see whom the last football club in Tyrone was to fold but it's definitely some time back, probably 80's. I think it was Mountfield, though could have been Windmill.

Windmill definitely played when there was no Mountfield.
I remember a club called Mountjoy on the lough shore also

Be good to see Errigal again this weekend, seems like moons ago since they were out. Can only see them putting Omagh to the sword.

well tiffy, yous have many injuries for the weekend?

Sean McKenna out, two back. Ronan McCrory moving to corner forward in a roaming role with Oguz coming into whf. Rest remains same.

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im sure whoever the new manager is will be told that our gameplan needs to evolve to more attacking. the top teams have evolved but we and ulster in general have been left behind. and im not sure mickey can evolve at this stage.

By top teams who do you mean?

Dublin?

Because everyone with the exception of Mayo are so far behind them that it's not funny.

Let me get this right.
Before the tyrone dublin semi final you argued that 5 tyrone players would be guaranteed to make a combined tyrone dublin select with a possibility of 8 tyrone players making it. Now you say dublin are miles ahead.
If tyrone have as many top players as dublin do what would make dublin a much better team ?
Management ?
Tactics ?
Or is it simply depth of squad.
Players fault again

Yea some loyalty alright!!! P Jordan was the same....all about the ££££££££

Would that be the same reason why mickey wants to stay on as manager

It should be interesting on here for a day or two

Any word on changes to either team?

Yes, Tyrone have changed into Armagh.

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Sometimes you gotta laugh. Not over yet though 😐

Senior- Errigal
Inter- Moy
Junior- Owen Roes

Senior- Errigal
Inter- Moy
Junior- Owen Roes

Omagh
Augher
Tattyreagh

Prayers please for Tony Keady who is ill at the moment.

Good job you got to edit that before anyone else commented

So the county board put a round of fixtures on next Sunday (20th ) same time as mayo v kerry? Surely these games could be played saturday evening?

They really cant win sometimes though.

If they put them on the Saturday evening ,we would have lads on here crying that it doesn't suit people who work on Saturdays.

probably, but from a Tyrone point of view you would think that there would be massive interest in the other semi-final and a lot of people would be looking to watch it, therefore saturday or sunday evening would surely suit better for the club games?

I agree, when i was playing i would have much preferred saturday evening fixtures anyway, particularity over the summer.
I am just saying that they tend to get criticised no matter what they do,as its impossible to please everyone

It wouldn't be hard for the two clubs to agree to play on the Saturday evening

Cuxton
Mc mahon
Mc Namee
Cooper
Mc carthy
O sullivan
Harte
C cavanagh
Fenton
Sludden
Connolly
Mannion
Rock
O callaghan
Donnelly.

However tyrone as a unit are incredibly hard to score against

Don't know where people are putting in Philly Mcmahon?? If any of use have been watching games this year he has been getting a run around. Jack mccarron roasted him on Sunday if it would not of been for clucko he would have got at least a goal to go along with his points. Overrated big time as a man marker

He is a fair bit better than our man markers to be honest. Mc crory is not good enough and mc carron has lost a yard. Always seemed to be a yard behind clarke on saturday.  Just my opinion mind you. I'm assuming you agree with the rest of the selection or do you only worry about corner backs

Is he ? How do you see he is better than McNamee and McCarron? McCrory doesn't even man mark, do you follow Tyrone ? Thought McNamee and McCarron where as good as ever on sat and I know a lot of people would agree with me on that. Tiernan mccann not in your half back line either and dean rock would be no where near my full forward line, only thing the man does is take frees. Poor from play imo

Who are these lots of people who would agree with you ?
Gotta love a bit of healthy debate.
Where do I start.
Jack mc carron did not score on saturday  !
Was aiden mc crory not marking Stefan campbell  on saturday.  I'll send you a few youtube clips to prove it.
Tiernan mc cann has been excellent this year,  Is mc cann better than peter harte or James Mc carthy ?
I don't think so. Is he better than mc caffrey?
This is all airy fairy opinions. No need to get so annoyed. I think Philly mc mahon is a better corner back than cathal mc carron. Is it much odds if he is or not ?

Time Ticking Away what happened your post??
You were obviously talking through your arse so decided to remove the post 

I decided to be a little less aggressive. You should try it sometime