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Do the Dublin lads on here think its fair that Dublin have essentially 2 home games in the super 8s and everyone else only gets 1??? Before someone jumps on me for being anti-dub i know a few Dub fans that dont want the 2 home games.In all honesty Dublin could have 3 away games and still win the all ireland but they know it will devalue an all ireland win.

[There's a lot more to it than that and you know it]

There's a lot more to it than that and you know it, he'd walk into any team in the country. Arguably one of the most naturally gifted players to play the game.
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We all know it but no one can bloody say it

Think and hope there will be some changes to the Mayo team.IMO could be
                                       Clarke
                    Barrett         Crowe       O Donoghue
                   
                    Durcan          Boyle       Higgins

                                    SOS  Parsons

                   Diarmuid     Aido     Mc Loughlin
                                   
                                    Doherty
                          Andy         Cillian

Crowe had a solid league and may get the shout ahead of Vaughan for marking Comer.Id expect Higgins to be sweeping in front of the full back line either way.Unfortunately i dont think Cafferkey is an option for full back anymore.O Donoghue had a great league and has earned his place but i would expect Harrisson to reclaim the jersey later in the year.If Crowe and O Donoghue do well Barrett could be deployed at 6 and Vaughan as an impact sub.I believe Rochford is looking at the bigger picture if The newer lads can do well it gives us options from the bench later in the year.I wouldnt be surprised to see Boland getting game time here aswell.

[What do Mayo fans think of Rochford?]

What do Mayo fans think of Rochford? Could anyone else have squeezed more out of the team?
Whenever they do leave the scene it will feel strange. They have been on the go for most of this decade.

I like him and am happy enough with him as our manager.Tactically very good and not afraid to try something new.Obviously swapping goalkeepers for the replay final was a disaster but i felt he made up for it last year.We were 7/1 with some bookies the week of the final and we came damn close to winning the bloody thing.The only gripe i have with him is some of his substitutions are questionable.Bringing on fellas with 2 minutes to go is a waste of time and bringing on backs when were chasing a game drives me up the wall.Overall id give him an 8 out of 10.Deliver Sam and il give him whatever he wants

Id imagine we will have Vaughan on Comer with Higgins sweeping in front of him.Dont see any of our other backs with the physicality and size for him

Anyway, that's all  history now and there is no point in rehashing conspiracy theories.
I'd like to get the thread back on-topic again and leave the past where it belongs.

Agree 100% Lar.What happened happened lets leave it where it belongs and look forward to giving Galway a good hammering on the 13th

[Nah, he had flu or a heavy cold alright, according to the father of an Aghamore]

Very good performances in his debut season in 2010 v Sligo and Longford. A good game v Tyrone in 13 . Mostly negative contributions for the rest of his time , a tendency to shy away from 50/50 balls , a complete no no for inter county.   it was 2015 v Dubs I seen him with my two fooking eyes yellow out of a 60/40 in his favour when it was melting pot time . His fans never seem to see whats obvious to others.

Unfortunately accurate.

no point in slagging him off at this point.
he did his stint for mayo and should be thanked for it

A good footballer with plenty of talent but probably just lacking a bit of an edge to his game.

He's no worse than the likes of Evan Regan or Conor O'Shea. But I suppose you've more juice to stick on the panel when your big brothers are calling the shots and the manager doesn't want to offend them.

If Horan had some sense he'd have left him on for more than 15 minutes  in the 2013 AI final, a year where he was in All-Star form and had been MotM in the AISF. Probably cost Horan and Mayo an AI.

Come off it Syf, Alan hadn't been able to take a full part in training in the previous week because he had a bad dose of the flu. Horan took a gamble on his fitness and lost.  Alll that was reported in the local papers at the time.

The rumour about Freeman having the flu in the build up to the final is simply not true.It was a disastrous decision to take him off

Nah, he had flu or a heavy cold alright, according to the father of an Aghamore player, but I know there were other reasons as well that made relations between JH and the Freemans rather stretched. It may be that Alan's father wasn't too happy with Horan. But the fact is,  Alan was not having one of his better days . He had a couple of halfhearted scoring attempts blocked down and I felt he just wasn't getting stuck in.Dunno if taking him off although was a good idea.
There were others who weren't playing well either and given Freeman's display in the semi,  I'd have left him on a bit longer in the hope that he'd rediscover his form.

Well according to a man that played in the last A vs B game before the final Freeman didnt have any flu or cold leading into the final.In the A vs B game the B team hammered the A team by about 7 points with Freeman and Mikey Conroy doing most of the damage.Not your ideal preperation for an all ireland final.If Horan had started both Freeman and Conroy Andy and probably Cillian would have missed out.Horan opted for Freeman but was anxious to get Conroy in as soon as possible.The stories about colds flus and Richie Feeney busting both Horan and Dillon are all nonsense.

Very good performances in his debut season in 2010 v Sligo and Longford. A good game v Tyrone in 13 . Mostly negative contributions for the rest of his time , a tendency to shy away from 50/50 balls , a complete no no for inter county.   it was 2015 v Dubs I seen him with my two fooking eyes yellow out of a 60/40 in his favour when it was melting pot time . His fans never seem to see whats obvious to others.

Unfortunately accurate.

no point in slagging him off at this point.
he did his stint for mayo and should be thanked for it

A good footballer with plenty of talent but probably just lacking a bit of an edge to his game.

He's no worse than the likes of Evan Regan or Conor O'Shea. But I suppose you've more juice to stick on the panel when your big brothers are calling the shots and the manager doesn't want to offend them.

If Horan had some sense he'd have left him on for more than 15 minutes  in the 2013 AI final, a year where he was in All-Star form and had been MotM in the AISF. Probably cost Horan and Mayo an AI.

Come off it Syf, Alan hadn't been able to take a full part in training in the previous week because he had a bad dose of the flu. Horan took a gamble on his fitness and lost.  Alll that was reported in the local papers at the time.

The rumour about Freeman having the flu in the build up to the final is simply not true.It was a disastrous decision to take him off

Hefty bans to be handed out this and 60 page threads on certain players. Numerous articles in all media for the next weeks and a full breakdown analysis on the Sunday game.... Oh wait.. . .  that wont happen.

Mayo the media sweathearts again with the thuggery, when are people going to cop on to them.

Maybe when he attacks a linesman and an innocent by stander in a pub.Any mayo fan ive spoken too is in agreement cillians hit was cowardly and stupid and he deserves to be punished for it.Your in no position to play the victim did you miss Smalls elbow on the Donegal player on saturday???

You've gone off topic, Mayo are being discussed, hundreds of threads on Dublin on this site and others and are heavily discussed as always.

Mayo, always the victim and deflection tactics. The Mayo team have poor discipline and its a major issue that some of the Mayo players cant control their violent temper or have moments of madness, its costing them the big one, the perfect example is last years all Ireland final.

Victim my hole can you not read??? Cillian was 100% wrong.I disagree that its costing us the big one as we have shown time and again we struggle against 14 men.The inability to put scores on the board when on top have cost us IMO.Il ask you again did you see Smalls elbow on the Donegal player???

I must of missed it to be honest.

Its a matter of opinions I suppose, to me Mayo violent tendencies and thuggish behaviour, childish play acting and trying to get players sent off is costing them. I suppose you can include ousting managers and trying to influence team selection to that list too.

Oh you missed the Dublin players thuggery thats convenient.Like i said your in no position to preach to anyone when your own team engages in the same thuggery violence and diving to get players sent off

Hefty bans to be handed out this and 60 page threads on certain players. Numerous articles in all media for the next weeks and a full breakdown analysis on the Sunday game.... Oh wait.. . .  that wont happen.

Mayo the media sweathearts again with the thuggery, when are people going to cop on to them.

Maybe when he attacks a linesman and an innocent by stander in a pub.Any mayo fan ive spoken too is in agreement cillians hit was cowardly and stupid and he deserves to be punished for it.Your in no position to play the victim did you miss Smalls elbow on the Donegal player on saturday???

You've gone off topic, Mayo are being discussed, hundreds of threads on Dublin on this site and others and are heavily discussed as always.

Mayo, always the victim and deflection tactics. The Mayo team have poor discipline and its a major issue that some of the Mayo players cant control their violent temper or have moments of madness, its costing them the big one, the perfect example is last years all Ireland final.

Victim my hole can you not read??? Cillian was 100% wrong.I disagree that its costing us the big one as we have shown time and again we struggle against 14 men.The inability to put scores on the board when on top have cost us IMO.Il ask you again did you see Smalls elbow on the Donegal player???

Hefty bans to be handed out this and 60 page threads on certain players. Numerous articles in all media for the next weeks and a full breakdown analysis on the Sunday game.... Oh wait.. . .  that wont happen.

Mayo the media sweathearts again with the thuggery, when are people going to cop on to them.

Maybe when he attacks a linesman and an innocent by stander in a pub.Any mayo fan ive spoken too is in agreement cillians hit was cowardly and stupid and he deserves to be punished for it.Your in no position to play the victim did you miss Smalls elbow on the Donegal player on saturday???

Day's like today Mayo are tough going to watch. Always talk about unearthing new players but very difficult for young players to survive, let alone thrive, when we are so dysfunctional in the league. New players in Dublin set-up come into a team that is always well organised and the 'process' is always intact. Last week we started with Douglas and Regan inside. Neither featured last year and yet they were expected to spearhead an attack against a top team. Both are also players that are probably more suited to playing off a bigger target player inside.
Also I think that it should be obvious at this stage to Mayo management that a couple of the younger players are projects that need to be seriously looked at.
Galway are going to be a tough nut to crack come championship. This new system suits them.
The Galway Shawl has been replaced by a blanket.

Good post Moy.A friend watching the game said to me we could have Mc Manus Geaney and Mc Brearty as our ff line and we would still struggle.The ball going in is painfully slow and usually shite.The backwards and sideways handpassing is very frustrating to watch.Without Andy as the target man we look very short on ideas going forward.No need to panic just yet but 1 or 2 have shown they are not good enough if we want to be challenging for sam.

With Regan out for a while and Cillian very out of form id like to see something like this start in the forwards

                              Gibbons    Aido
           
             Diarmuid    Mc Loughlin     Boland

            Freeman     Doherty       Loftus

We need to be looking at options and if not now then when.This is a strong albeit experimental forward line.Freeman could be swapped with Naughton or Treacy.Im not convinced by Douglas and we know what Andy and Cillian can do its time to give others a chance

[Super 8 brought in to make up for the money HQ were losing on the ever decreasing All Ireland Quarter finals attendances. Two of Dublins Super 8 games will be played in Croke Park because they will be sell out and will create the most money for HQ[/quote]]

Super 8 brought in to make up for the money HQ were losing on the ever decreasing All Ireland Quarter finals attendances. Two of Dublins Super 8 games will be played in Croke Park because they will be sell out and will create the most money for HQ
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I understand the financial aspect of this.My problem is how in the name of God can the gaa run the football championship with a different set of rules for 1 team???Money shouldnt come into it here.Either everyone gets 2 home games or nobody does

Lads maybe a bit off topic but can someone tell me will Dublin get to play their home and neutral super 8 games at croke park??? Ive been getting a lot of conflicting answers on this the past few days. Thanks
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Both in Croke Park.
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And how is that fair??? Ive no problem with some of the advantages Dublin have but thats blatant favouritism toward one team above another
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Fair has nothing to do with it when it comes to Dublin. They'll get to play all three if their away game is v Mayo!
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Thats complete and utter bullshite.Its like Man utd playing all their big games at old trafford.