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Any truth that the senior and intermediate fixtures/start date have been pushed back to the end of May

Makes more sense than the original start date of the 6th May. Atleast there will be less gap waiting on Tyrone's season to finish after playing the 5 starred games.

Hearing the U20's could be under serious pressure next week. Are a few key forwards out injured and not available which will have a massive impact on the result.

Bad luck for the management if this is the case, you need a full deck to play with to give the championship a rattle at this level

Anyone on here close to the set up or know what is going on? Very quiet considering the championship is only 7 days away.

Paul Devlin has gone full paranoid apparently after last years disaster

you'll note that the squad list hasn't been released unlike previous years as he thinks it'll give too much away to opponents

Bit of a reality check in the Leo Murphy (?) final against Donegal.

Ulster title the minimum that should be expected from this years panel. Devlin under massive pressure after underachieving massively with the last 4 years teams.

This board use to be great.... Pure shite now with the idiots on posting.

I agree! becoming like twitter

Only recently made an account but i was viewer for years. People coming on now and using it as platform to spread completely untrue rumors and take the piss out of other people. It has just become another Hoganstand, sad to see

+1

Onionbag and gk Union keep the rumours and BS for hoganstand.

Touched a nerve.

It's a pity they don't release the team in advance. Even if they made a change or two on the day at least it would give a topic of conversation pre game. I'd be going with something like the following but it's hard to know who is available:

Morgan
Hampsey
McNamee
McKernan
Brennan/Rafferty
McGeary
Harte
R Donnelly
Kilpatrick
Meyler
M Donnelly
Sludden
McCurry
McShane
Donaghy

Hard to know who is available with Sigerson and injuries but my selection:
Morgan
Hampsey McNammee J Munroe
Brennan McGeary Harte
Padraig McNulty Kilpatrick
Meyler Sludden McKenna
McCurry McShane Mattie Donnelly

With Cassidy and McCann leaving the panel it creates an opportunity for Johnny Munroe. It would be good to see him get an injury free run at it to see where he could end up.

Senior

Ardboe: Mickey Donnelly
Carrickmore: Ryan Daly & Noel Hurson
Clonoe: Niall O'Neill and Kieran Hughes
Coalisland: Stevie Ferguson
Derrylaughan:
Donaghmore: Barry Tracey & Hetherington
Dromore: Paul McIvor & Ricey
Dungannon: Christopher Rafferty & Collie Holmes
Errigal Ciaran: Mark Harte and Adrian O'Donnell
Greencastle: Sean Teague
Killyclogher: Ciaran Howe & Dermot Carlin
Loughmacrory: Marty McConnell & Ciaran Meenagh
Moortown: Michael Hasson
Moy: Murray
Omagh: Larry Strain & Kevin Brady
Trillick: Nigel Seaney & Liam Donnelly

Intermediate

Aghyaran: Michael Anderson
Beragh: Noel Slane
Cookstown: Conall Lavery
Clogher:
Edendork:
Eglish: Matthew McGleenan
Eskra: Niall Colton
Galbally: Crozier and Joe McMahon
Gortin: Colm McGarvey & Phillip McKenna
Kildress:
Kileeshil: Stephen McHugh
Naomh Eoghan: Mc Nulty
Owen Roes: Paddy Campbell
Pomeroy: Horse Devlin
Rock: Cormac McGinley
T***yreagh: Chris Kelly

Junior
Aghaloo:
Augher: McElroy
Brackaville:
Brocagh:
Castlederg: Martin McNulty
Clann na nGael:
Coalisland Thirds:
Derrytresk:
Donaghmore Thirds:
Drumquin: Conor Gormley
Drumragh:
Errigal Ciaran Thirds:
Fintona:
Glenelly: Diarmuid McNulty
Killyman:
Stewartstown:
Strabane: Corey and Wray
Urney: Aidan Gilroy and Enda Ferris

Has Sean Teague been in and out of the Greencastle manager role since they won the AI Junior or has he been in charge the whole time? Some man for one man and great to see Greencastle back up in Senior again though expect it to be a tough year

In and out.

Greencastle held their own a few years in Seniors. Rang a couple of the big teams closes and always got one or two scalps. A tall order next years, but we won't be found wanting or in awe.

Greencastle could very easily take points from Moortown, Derrylaughan, Donaghmore, Loughmacrory, and Moy. The likes of Omagh,Ardboe, Killyclogher and Coalisland can also be beaten on the right day. I'd give Greencastle every chance of getting to double figures.

Moortown are a good young side however I think division 1 next year will be too much for them

The year in Senior will stand to them in 1B in 2023. The same will go with all the teams that go down from Senior rather than the 6 that will come up from Intermediate.

[Greencastle]

Intermediate Championship:
Strabane V Greencastle
Augher V Rock
Stewartstown V Kildress
Aghaloo V Moortown
Aghyaran V Owen Roes
Killeeshil V Clogher
Naomh Eoghan V Beragh
Tattyreagh V Gortin

Senior Champ Preliminary:
Ardboe V Dromore
Derrylaughan V Moy

Intermediate Championship:
Strabane V Greencastle possibility of an upset with Strabane playing well since the restart even if results haven't gone the right way for them but Greencastle have good form going into the game and that should edge them.
Augher V Rock - injuries to some of the rock forwards will make this game closely contested but in McGarrity and McCreesh they should have too much for Augher.
Stewartstown V Kildress - having an excellent season on their return to intermediate and in Matthew McGuigan they have one of the best forwards in the league. Stewartstown really struggling for form going into the game.
Aghaloo V Moortown - very even but Moortowns missing men point towards an Aghaloo win.
Aghyaran V Owen Roes - extra time possible. Owen roes more about them all over the field and with McShane they have that xfactor to get over the line. McHugh a big loss for Aghyaran.
Killeeshil V Clogher - dark horses for the championship. Excellent forward unit in McConnell, Bogue and McCaughey and Shields coming back in is a massive boost.
Naomh Eoghan V Beragh - very tight, extra time could be very possible. Beragh with relegation worries will have bigger worries than a championship run.
Tattyreagh V Gortin - Very even, Ruairi Keenan a big loss for Gortin. Tattyreagh well suited to building a championship run when they get momentum behind them.

Senior Champ Preliminary:
Ardboe V Dromore - the usual shortcoming from Ardboe, dromore to win a low scoring game. Overall a better balance to the Dromore team. Ardboe very reliant on Coney for their scores which makes them predictable.
Derrylaughan V Moy - will back up a strong league campaign with a win. Conroy to be the difference.

Intermediate Championship:
Strabane V Greencastle
Augher V Rock
Stewartstown V Kildress
Aghaloo V Moortown
Aghyaran V Owen Roes
Killeeshil V Clogher
Naomh Eoghan V Beragh
Tattyreagh V Gortin

Senior Champ Preliminary:
Ardboe V Dromore
Derrylaughan V Moy

[Trillick]

Killyclogher v Trillick

Donaghmore v Pomeroy - Donaghmore have a lot of players isolating.

Errigal Ciaran v Coalisland - Coalisland currently more of a mess than Errigal.

Derrylaughan v Dromore - Dromore to hammer the mess that is Derrylaughan at present.

Ardboe v Clonoe - tight one but Clonoe better scoring power should win it.

Edendork v Loughmacrory

Omagh v Moy - Omagh another team that seem to be a complete mess. An aging team adding to their problems.

Dungannon v Carrickmore - tight one but Dungannon are on a strong run of form after a poor opening.

Eglish v Galbally - big 4 pointer but Eglish have the form and momentum with them at the moment.

Anyone have the full squad list for Tyrone U20s?

I accept that once club leagues are given the go ahead they need to start, absolutely. But if clubs are going to be with out their county players until the county season is over then there can't be relegation again this year. Feasibly Tyrone could make the All-Ireland Final, which means no access you your county players until September. Potentially say club league starts in June, that's maybe 12 round of league games without your county men. For any team with a player, let alone 4/5 on the panel that's an unfair disadvantage and almost a punishment for providing the county team with your players.
Ordinarily starred system works fairly well here, but cant over that length of time.

Could solve that problem by making half the league games starred and changing the point structure for starred and non starred.
Division 1 - 9 Starred games scheduled before County exit worth 2 points with non starred games worth 4 after county exit.
Division 2 - 8 Starred Games scheduled before County exit worth 2 points with non starred games worth 4 after county exit.

[Reckon he has a chance at making a name for himself in the 11 jersey?]

Anyone listen to Ronan O Neill on TTM interview last night?

Thought it was a good listen. He openly said he wants a run at number 11 this year with Tyrone and feels that is his best position. He said he had been played there in all the trial games by the new managers also. Also said over lockdown he was training twice a day and has lost a stone and a half and is in the best shape he has ever been in.

Reckon he has a chance at making a name for himself in the 11 jersey? Or do you think there's more chance of him being a sub/bit part plyer as per the last few years?

Be very surprised to see anyone but Conor McKenna operating at 11.

I was told he was playing midfield in the trial games.

McKenna could easily play as wing forward either.

I quite like the idea of McKenna and Donnelly as wing forwards with more of a playmaker at 11. For me Bradley's best football in a Tyrone jersey came in his first season at no 11. We do now have Brennan, McCurry, McAliskey, Canavan etc so we could use Bradley further out the pitch.

Mattie Donnelly Mark Bradley Conor McKenna
Darren McCurry Cathal McShane Conor McAliskey.

Would be fantastic to see that come together. On paper that is serious firepower to have.

Definitely would be interesting to see how it works.

Where do we see the likes of Harte and Sludden fitting into the side, if at all?

I know Harte is a bit of an enigma and tends to go missing but he has too much ability not to play for me. Do we try them out in the half back line, does that leave us a little more exposed defensively if we do? Sludden has gone off the boil the past couple of seasons, a bit like Harte when he is tagged he can be stopped too easily but on his day a fantastic footballer.

The half back line is really up for grabs. We do need a regular at 6 - I'm thinking Hampsey.

Rafferty McNamee Brennan

Sludden Hampsey Harte

Might be worth seeing how it goes - serious scoring power in that defence though.

Sludden and Harte back into defence and compete for their places there.
Still have Michael O'Neill, Cassidy, McKernan, Meyler, McGeary and Burns not named there who you would think Logan and Dooher have a lot of time for after their U21 spell.
The level of competition is sure to benefit the set up and having real impact men like the 2018 run will be another exciting prospect.

Definitely. Michael O'Neill impressed me a lot last season. T McCann's days could be numbered now you'd feel.

The problem for Logan and Dooher is now keeping all that squad happy.

Any other word on departures yet? Just Coney and McCrory gone from last season?

Matthew Murnaghan, Conall McCann and David Mulgrew are off the panel.

Confirmed that the following players have joined the training panel:
Danny Mc Nulty
Conor McAliskey
Paul Donaghy
Aidan Clarke
Peter Teague
Tiernan Quinn
Cormac Munroe
Mark Mckearney
Lee Brennan
Johnny Munroe

Would say Johnny Munroe might be the best addition to the panel of these players, potential option at centre half back which is a problem position at present. Stand out star man at the trials.
McAliskey will naturally go straight back in as a front runner for the corner forward positions alongside Bradley, McCurry and Canavan.
Lee Brennan in my opinion will find himself behind these players, just like he was before he walked off the panel. Wonder will he accept a role as a big impact player of the bench just like his 2018 role.
As for the rest - Donaghy and McNulty could offer nice plan B options with their size around the full forward line and as potential alternatives in the absense of McShane. The rest it's hard to see much of a path to the match day panel for them, be a case of biding their time.

[adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line]

6 is a major issue for us as you can see. I'd probably play Hampsey there myself.

Obviously midfield is another major cause for concern.

Conor Quinn would have needed to do a lot of filling out to be ready for a starting spot next year.

I'd go for something like:

Morgan

Rafferty
McNamee
Brennan

Cassidy
Hampsey
O'Neill

Kennedy
R Donnelly

M Donnelly
McKenna
McCurry

Harte
McShane
McAliskey

Mcaliskey ahead of caravan your having a laugh.

Canavan is a slight 20 year old who has played one Championship match. He's a huge talent but has it all to prove and an awful lot of physical development to make yet. I look forward to seeing how he gets on next year but we have to be careful how we manage him and the expectations.

I think McAliskey has a lot to offer if he comes back fit and hungry. Only McManus scored more overall than McAliskey in the 2018 All Ireland Championship and only Kilkenny scored more from play in the same Championship. It's good we have all these options but it's going to be difficult for Logan and Dooher to balance all these players and their hunger to play. If you look at the Donegal game back in November, you could potentially be adding McAliskey, L Brennan, McShane and Donaghy among others into that forward line so whoever has the jersey is going to have to perform.

Can't help feel we are over stocked in the forward positions and cuts have to be made.
Are Dan McNulty, Paul Donaghy, Ronan O'Neill, Daniel Kerr and to an extent Tiarnan Quinn (although an exciting young talent could probably do with more club football) really going to make an impact to get into the reckoning ahead off any of Mattie Donnelly, Peter Harte, Conor McKenna, Cathal McShane, Mark Bradley, Darren McCurry, Conor McAliskey, Darragh Canavan and Lee Brennan?