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#61
Quote from: lenny on May 20, 2023, 08:43:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 08:41:37 PM
I don't know who wanted more matches but here they are. They will suit a team like Tyrone who can experiment with different ideas and no jeopardy.,
Tyrone used the qualifiers to do something similar in 05 and 08. Galway can use the time to fix problems as well.

Poor enough game between 2 very defensive sides. The conditions made it a tough watch. Tyrone were very cynical and Galway weren't far behind.

Neither team are defensive. Tyrone were admirable in pressing kickouts a man down in the second half but they were hamstung by being that man down an it limited what they could do. Galway had the lead so it would be madness to not conserve it a man up. Galway were involved in the two best games of last year's championship
#62
Tyrone giving out about Gough is some laugh. McCurry scored 4 frees from the exact same position in the second half. One of the four was a foul

Aside from that, a poor Galway performance. Only Conroy and Sweeney excelled. Mountains to work on
#63
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .

Strange one to be espousing the Mayo support on the weekend they're supposedly bringing their least amount of fans for many a year to Killarney. The cost of living crises hitting hard up there? There's no soccer/rugby/hurling to distract, so it's a strange one for the self anointed "best fans in Ireland"

#64
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 06:22:03 AM
Lee keegan piece would bring ya back down to earth if ya have any notions as a mayo man thinking we could pull this off . "Significant injury worries " rumour too according to lee .If Enda hession , mcbrien , cillian , Carr and Tommy are all out , we really are doomed . Every year this seems to happen , if it's not Tommy it Ryan or both, Carr is more time injured than available .Something not right , does it happen other counties , perhaps some of the time but not all the fookin time .

Of course it happens with other counties. What doesn't happen with other counties is this constant "woe is me" craic you get with Mayo fans. Only 2 of those 5 you named would likely be actually starting on Mayos current best 15 and incidentally 4 of the 5 are named in tomorrow's panel.

Mayo had an incredibly easy run with injuries from 2011-2017. Since 2019 they've probably been a bit worse than the average luck wise. Every team gets them though and for Mayo to only have Brickenden and Harrison, two lads who'd be struggling to make the 26, as long term injuries is fairly good going. Over the years Dublin have had cruciate tears happen to McCaffrey, Bernard Brogan, Michael Daragh Mcauley, Kilkenny and Kevin o Brien. They just took it as par for the course and got on with it
#65
Quote from: Redhand Santa on May 18, 2023, 08:11:46 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on May 17, 2023, 08:07:16 PM
Quote from: galwayman on May 17, 2023, 07:03:02 PM
Any pubs in Salthill have GaaGo? Pucan in town the only place I know that has it for sure

Rob Finnerty's oul fella will surely have it set up.

Whoever's organizing has put all tickets as general admission, meaning actual normal football fans who'd like to watch another big game beforehand are probably screwed for a seat in the stand.

This somewhat new practice of GAA fans heading into games 90 mins + before throw in is odd behavior at best and a scourge at worst. Toddlers/pensioners etc aside

I assume there is no where near the ground and any chance will be in Salthill itself of getting the Mayo Kerry game?

No chance of getting enough coverage at the ground to stream it you'd imagine. Annoying that with unreserved seating you have to be in so early with a game like that on before hand. What sort of crowd would you expect on Saturday? 10-12,000 kinda thing?

Hoping the break has did Tyrone good and they've regrouped and worked on putting the defence together. I don't think we're as far of it as some people think but will be a big ask going to Galway and turning them over.

Very good chance Wards hotel or PJ Finnerty's on Salthill RD lower will have it. Reasonable chance some of the pubs in Salthill village itself will have it. Stadiums about a 7 min walk from all the above.

Mobile data is good around that area generally but up to your own circumstances obviously. I'd say 12k is a good estimate
#66
Quote from: galwayman on May 17, 2023, 07:03:02 PM
Any pubs in Salthill have GaaGo? Pucan in town the only place I know that has it for sure

Rob Finnerty's oul fella will surely have it set up.

Whoever's organizing has put all tickets as general admission, meaning actual normal football fans who'd like to watch another big game beforehand are probably screwed for a seat in the stand.

This somewhat new practice of GAA fans heading into games 90 mins + before throw in is odd behavior at best and a scourge at worst. Toddlers/pensioners etc aside
#67
Derry shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose their kits when it suits them. Pick a home jersey and stick to it unless there's a clash. Obviously some sort of weird intentional tactic today. At the cost of spectators
#68
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht final 2023
May 11, 2023, 01:07:20 PM
Amazing rivalry in a Connacht sense. In an All Ireland sense, which is about 25 times more important, it's utterly lopsided.

Is there a bit of dispute over what the current Connacht score is? Colm Keys had it as 49 now for Galway and 48 for Mayo. Someone said to me it was 48 each now however
#69
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht final 2023
May 10, 2023, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 10, 2023, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on May 10, 2023, 03:04:16 PM


Why does Markievicz "hold a lot more than 10k"? Because you say so?
Considering how health and safety have absolutely slashed grounds with non bucket seating/standing all over the country, I see nothing in Markievicz to think it would be allowed to hold 'a lot more' than 10k. McHale Park for instance was 42k in the noughties and is now 25k max. There would've been a larger demand had one team been at home also. All a moot point anyway, as you can't change agreements with days notice, it's unfair on whichever team would have to travel to the others home ground

Im sure Prenty did think there was far more coming than realistic. As any amount of history has shown us, this is hardly the most competent individual we're dealing with. I'd agree that Hyde Park was probably a better option, but he's nothing if not consistent and did another twist for his own

The Slattery report cut the capacity of Markievicz park to 16,000. More that 25k max in MacHale Park also matter of fact 29,449 was at the Galway v Mayo match in 2018.


Haha seriously!? The Slattery report was 2011,12 years ago now. They were allowing  34k in Pearse Stadium and 36k in Castlebar in 2012.

McHale Parks Capacity at Donegal v Mayo 2019 Super 8s game was a fully sold out 25369. A simple google can tell you this

Perhaps your county man was lying and MP with its miniscule stand and 4 rows deep sideline terrace is still allowed to hold a mere 9k less than McHale Park. That's all we have to go on at this point though
#70
Quote from: Rudi on May 10, 2023, 01:17:11 PM
Common knowledge in Donegal for a long time. Can remember hearing about it when he was managing Donegal. The people around Killybegs could tale you a few horrible stories. Derry have to stand him down, no other choice. Good luck to the ex wife, life hasn't been easy for her.

I'd heard the same, albiet from people closer to the border. Wasn't that why he left (was ran) from his hometown club?
#71
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht final 2023
May 10, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 10, 2023, 12:48:54 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on May 10, 2023, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 09, 2023, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 09, 2023, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2023, 01:01:29 AM
Lord Prenty declared at an early stage the Final was fixed for McHale.
Helping his favourite County pay off their debts.
Sod Sligo or capacity or how many might turn up, look after his own.

It's a long-standing rule though that the final must be played at a neutral venue if (one of the) participating counties, i.e. Sligo or Leitrim, haven't a ground big enough to host final and its expected crowd. Pre-match estimates said that there would be > 15k at the game on Sunday; even as it was, Markiewicz Park would have been well full with Sunday's attendance. There's no point in saying that it could have been held in Sligo, no-one knew in advance what crowd would turn up.

No way was 15k the expected crowd for this match up. Last two Sligo v Galway championship games had 5 to 8k in attendance. This was one rare opportunity for Markievicz Park to host a final.

https://www.mayonews.ie/news/gaa/1154235/sligo-venue-not-an-option-for-connacht-final.html

Correct it wasn't 15k expected. See "more than 20k expected" from Mayo's finest bureaucract

He is correct on one score though, Markevic has a capacity of 10k, not the 15-18k that people reading outdated wiki pages etc seem to assume. Aside from the obvious integrity concerns with ripping up the prior arrangement days before the final, and the fact that Sligo and Galways home/away situation is still under dispute (Sligo pulled out of the last game due in Galway), the crowd the last day wouldn't have fit in Markevic

Like John Prenty doesn't tell tall tales.  To repeat not a hope going on previous attendances for Sligo v Galway championship games was it going to get 15k never mind  20k and Markievicz Park holds a lot more than 10k and an option B should have been Hyde Park with 19k currently allowed capacity.

Prior arrangement was brought in for when Leitrim and Sligo reached finals  and would attract 20k plus to finals those days are now over especially if they don't play Mayo in the final.

Why does Markievicz "hold a lot more than 10k"? Because you say so?
Considering how health and safety have absolutely slashed grounds with non bucket seating/standing all over the country, I see nothing in Markievicz to think it would be allowed to hold 'a lot more' than 10k. McHale Park for instance was 42k in the noughties and is now 25k max. There would've been a larger demand had one team been at home also. All a moot point anyway, as you can't change agreements with days notice, it's unfair on whichever team would have to travel to the others home ground

Im sure Prenty did think there was far more coming than realistic. As any amount of history has shown us, this is hardly the most competent individual we're dealing with. I'd agree that Hyde Park was probably a better option, but he's nothing if not consistent and did another twist for his own
#72
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht final 2023
May 10, 2023, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 09, 2023, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 09, 2023, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2023, 01:01:29 AM
Lord Prenty declared at an early stage the Final was fixed for McHale.
Helping his favourite County pay off their debts.
Sod Sligo or capacity or how many might turn up, look after his own.

It's a long-standing rule though that the final must be played at a neutral venue if (one of the) participating counties, i.e. Sligo or Leitrim, haven't a ground big enough to host final and its expected crowd. Pre-match estimates said that there would be > 15k at the game on Sunday; even as it was, Markiewicz Park would have been well full with Sunday's attendance. There's no point in saying that it could have been held in Sligo, no-one knew in advance what crowd would turn up.

No way was 15k the expected crowd for this match up. Last two Sligo v Galway championship games had 5 to 8k in attendance. This was one rare opportunity for Markievicz Park to host a final.

https://www.mayonews.ie/news/gaa/1154235/sligo-venue-not-an-option-for-connacht-final.html

Correct it wasn't 15k expected. See "more than 20k expected" from Mayo's finest bureaucract

He is correct on one score though, Markevic has a capacity of 10k, not the 15-18k that people reading outdated wiki pages etc seem to assume. Aside from the obvious integrity concerns with ripping up the prior arrangement days before the final, and the fact that Sligo and Galways home/away situation is still under dispute (Sligo pulled out of the last game due in Galway), the crowd the last day wouldn't have fit in Markevic
#73
GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht final 2023
May 02, 2023, 09:47:12 PM
Nah 2007 was about a 4 point spread I believe. The 2013 final between Mayo and London may have been the shortest odds wise (or highest spread wise). At a guess that was a 16-17 point spread

This fixture was a 13 spread in Markevic in 2019. Sligo seem in a much better place, while Galway are probably a reasonable amount better also, albiet that team was coming off a semi final. The venues probably in Galways favour. I don't think there's a ground in Ireland outside of Tuam (at a push) that this team would prefer to play at
#74
GAA Discussion / Re: Sam Maguire permutations
May 02, 2023, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 02, 2023, 01:18:27 PM
Connacht winner will probably get a tougher group than any other Connacht side eliminated earlier lol.

If Galway do win Connacht, that's twice in 2 years their 'reward' for winning their province has been the rotten draw against the good Ulster side. Last year, 1 of Clare, Cork Armagh. This year, one of Clare, Louth, Armagh/Derry
#75
I think Carroll just came out the field on kickouts late when Ros were chasing.

The goal was a combination of things. 3 Galway players were back near Enda including Maher but the ball was superb and Enda got first run on the jump. Then Sweeney lost sight of tracking Murtagh

It's been a year of surprises personnel wise. I'd have offered long odds on McGrath, Maher or Hernon being near a starting team when the year began, and while I knew Eoghan Kelly was going places, and Burke was proven, they still seemed unlikely. Proven players such as Walsh, Finnerty, Cooke and McDaid have all been more peripheral for differing reasons, lack of form or injuries etc. It's the first time in a long time I can remember seriously healthy competition for places. The season might happen a bit fast for the long term injuries (Molloy and Mulkerrin) but in the medium-long term, they'll just add to the mix also