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#31
GAA Discussion / Re: AFL Invasion
July 11, 2008, 05:00:54 PM
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THE AFL is considering a radical proposal to launch an Irish-dominated team in Sydney's western suburbs, which would perform before an international audience under the Celtic brand name.

Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick confirmed last night that the Irish option was being explored as a possible basis for the competition's 18th team, to debut as early as 2012.

The "Sydney Celtics" plan was first put to AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou 18 months ago by Gaelic Players Association executive Donal O'Neill. It has gained momentum in recent weeks following player agent Ricky Nixon's talent-spotting tour of Ireland

Nixon has contacted Demetriou and Fitzpatrick in recent days and put forward a revised template for the AFL's 18th licence.

Mr Fitzpatrick said last night: "It's been put to us and while it's not without its issues it's something we'll explore. Ricky has made a reasonably compelling case and we are not discounting anything at this stage."

The Celtic proposal would bring an expanded television audience in Ireland and across Britain. The Celtic brand could also open a marketing bonanza given the international cache afforded the Boston Celtics (a basketball team) and the Glasgow Celtics (a soccer team).

Australia's Irish heritage and the AFL's historic relationship with Gaelic football add to the proposal's selling points. Currently nine Irish players feature on AFL club lists. The AFL's most famous Irishman Jim Stynes was recently appointed chairman of Melbourne.

The proposal originated at the International Rules series in Ireland in late 2006 where O'Neill put forward a plan to purchase an AFL licence in Sydney.

O'Neill came to Australia and in January 2007 met Demetriou and his football general manager Adrian Anderson, along with AFL Players' Association chief executive Brendon Gale.

The talks were kept secret largely because of domestic political concerns in Ireland, where players remain amateur despite the fact that the Irish governing body, the Gaelic Athletic Association, boasts $4 billion in assets.

Demetriou yesterday confirmed the meeting with O'Neill, who reportedly put forward a detailed business plan involved millions of dollars in funding emanating from the US and Britain as well as Ireland.

The AFL chief executive said yesterday: "To call this embryonic is an understatement. We are looking at several proposals and we have been forwarded all sorts of ideas."

Gale said of the proposal: "When it was first raised I saw it as a soft but effective way of internationalising our game and growing it domestically. Clearly there are some incredible structural challenges but I saw it as worthy of referring on ... As a blank canvas I think it has merit."

While the AFL has started construction on its new home base for its team out of western Sydney — a boutique stadium in Rooty Hill near Blacktown — it is not expected to grant its 18th licence for about 12 months.

The western Sydney working party devising player rules and draft concessions for the second Sydney team is due to meet next on July 22.

At this stage the Irish proposal has not been officially discussed by the AFL's NSW-ACT operation. One misgiving among senior league executives is the fall-out associated with creating a team heavily based upon a national or cultural identity, something which has caused deep divisions in soccer in the past.

Nixon, a former teammate of Fitzpatrick at Carlton, launched his talent-spotting project earlier this year across all 32 Irish counties. He has signed five AFL clubs (each at a cost of $30,000), with the promise of identifying at least one Irish youngster for each club's senior list.

Recently engaged in a war of words with Sydney premiership player and Listowel native Tadhg Kennelly, who accused Nixon of plundering Irish talent, Nixon has workshopped the Celtic proposal with at least two AFL club chief executives. 
#32
"scalder - I would have thought that if you wished to achieve a united ierland you would endevour to make the north less palatable to nationalists?"

Uladh - I realise this as being probably true but I can hardly suggest that we look to adopt mesures to make it a "cold place for Nationalists" now can I? If you do beleive a united ireland is on the cards then surely it would make sense to move towards a more integrated island rather than unification being a total shock to the system. For me if Unitiy is not on the cards then I would like the see us working to make the impact of the border less and less.



#33
Folks I was up in North Down last week and wondered about something, I lost RTÉ radio at about Newry but I'm sure when I was up before I had RTÉ and Today FM all the way as far as Jordanstown (well thats where I was going to). Question is, has my radio become less sensistive or is RTÉ no longer recieved away from border areas?

Further to this I don't think we'll see a united Ireland within this century - hope I'm wrong but thats my opinion. How do we then go about making the north less more acceptable to nationailists, how do we in effect lessen the impact of partition and make the north less foreign?

Things like schools and the cirriculum, radio and TV, the currency, the road signs, language all make the expeirence over the border different from the south. To me I thought the GFA was about parity and equality but it seems the state is still a very British one and surely the aim should be for it have dual identity?
#34
GAA Discussion / Re: Wexford v Meath
May 26, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
I hope the Meath team are a focused on Mattie as their supporters!! Did you see Ciaran Lyng in action last year in Croke Park?? We've far more upfront than Mattie.
#35
Flicked between RTÉ and BBC and felt RTÉ's effort was better, more exciting I suppose, one thing in particular was the volume of the crowd, RTÉ seem to give you more crowd volume which gives you more a sense of actually being at the game while BBC keep this lower and their commentators while decent could inject more life.
#36
Disaster of a game and very sad to watch as I felt for Laois hurling people and the lads on the pitch. The Leinster council need to step in and look at what is going on in Laois, what are they doing that they've slipped back so much, what can be done to arrest this decline, maybe its too late already but I hope not. We all know that we need more teams competing at the top level and so can't just let Laois slip out the back door.
#37
Well if this knocks complacency on its head its a good thing, one thing we have in our favour is a supportive Taoiseach but we can't rely on this always being so. We should apply for money to fund an integration officer for immigrants (The FAI got this) and indeed another in the north to work on getting more from a Unionist background involved.
#38
Intresting report lads which points up a relative decline of Gaelic Games in Ireland over other sports, hurling has it seems held its own or even increased but football seems to have slumped over the past 2 decades.

http://www.esri.ie/UserFiles/publications/20080410120627/RS002.pdf
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#39
Hurling Discussion / Re: Derry Minor Hurlers
May 21, 2008, 01:58:27 PM
More bad news from Derry!

McGrellis fumes at Derry fixture pile-up
21 May 2008


Derry minor hurling manager Danny McGrellis is fuming with the Ulster GAA Council as he looks likely to be without three key players if his side defeat Donegal this weekend in the Ulster MHC, for a meeting with Antrim on June 1.



Darryl McDermott, Mark McCormick and Benny Herron will all line-out for the Derry minor football team in Ballybofey on June 1, which has forced McGrellis to call for his side's game to be rescheduled.

The former county star seethed about the issue, stating: "It wouldn't happen to any other county.

"In what other county in Ireland are the senior hurlers and footballers and minor hurlers and footballers asked to play on the same say at a different venue?" he asked.

The Banagher clubman insists that if his side get past Donegal at the weekend, they will need the entire contingent to put it up to provincial championship Antrim.

"It would be hard enough for us to beat Antrim, but it will be even harder without those three players. It's like asking the county footballers to do without Barry Gillis, Fergal Doherty and Paddy Bradley."

However it looks unlikely as the Ulster Council refuses to budge on the issue and chairman Danny Murphy says the date, fixed late last year, must stand.

"The game was originally scheduled last November, and Antrim could not concede to the request to change the date, so the original date has to stand," said Murphy.
#40
GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
May 19, 2008, 04:30:03 PM
Did any of you hear Des Cahill last week, Evanne was in doing the sports bullitin in her camoige gear, Des seemed more than a little excited, not that I could blame the man!
#41
Well the Kilkenny county championship starts this weekend which while not quiet the same buzz as a big intercounty game you would see high quality hurling and experience genuine club hurling. If you're relying on Public transport then maybe Nowlan Park this Sunday for the Carrickshock v Tullaroan game would be a good one (The stadium is beside the train station coming from Dublin).

More here:
http://www.kilkennygaa.ie/site/all_fixtures.php?comp_id=9
#42
Why not make a submission on this lads? Bombard them!

Dublin City Council will consider submissions made by any person in relation to the proposed Bye-Laws. Such submissions must be made in writing to Mr. Tim O'Sullivan, Executive Manager, Roads and Traffic Department at the above address or by email to traffic@dublincity.ie before 4.30pm on 19th June 2008.

Read the briefing document.
#43
GAA Discussion / Re: Surnames in Irish
May 06, 2008, 11:09:51 AM
The idea that you can't Gaelisise foreign names is just bollix, look at many of the Anglo-Irish names and indeed the biblical names which have been rendered into a Gaelic format over the centuries. To say this can no longer take place is in ways to admit the language is dead or atleast static and not something evolving and alive.
As for the GAA, well I think we need a more active promotion of the use of Irish and not just the use of names, tokenism is not enough.
#44
This looks like a case of constructive dismissal lads...
#45
GAA Discussion / Re: UTV & BBC
April 22, 2008, 11:51:21 AM
Lads there was mention of Mr Brolly and others taking legal action to get some sort of balance into the reporting of our games, has there been any news on this?