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Lol so are we tho we wouldn't use that as an excuse  lol

to be honest so would i. if the johnnies nailed that many scores against lgiel then they would be winning this game.

i dont think this game will be as loose as the glenariffe game was, i think that st johns will keep it tight until lgiel pull away and win handy enough at at the end up.

ballycastle are better than what their current league standing is. they have some great young players and i would say theey will get better as time goes on.

st johns are brutaly hard to beat in their own ground, we got away with a 1 point win, cushendall and other teams struggled there as well this year. the hurlings there in them, its just geting it to come together on the day is the problem for them.

glenariffe are an odd one. waaay to good for div 2 but struggle in Div 1 each year when they come back. dont understand that one at all. their league form in div 1 is far too inconsistent and they never get a good run going to keep them going in the year.

Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals

Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one

Dunloy v cdall is in loughgiel.

Didn't get to the game the night but i would not read into it whatever way the result went the night.
I've seen enough of cdall and lgiel to know they aren't unbeatable so I take some confidence in that.

As for only playing at 75%? Lol yeah right. If they think that playing at level will win big ears then your deluded. Lgiel are playing at the level they have been the past 3 seasons. Their standards haven't dropped at all.

What I was getting at DR was that we're nowhere near playing at our best yet. We're not as sharp as we can be. There's a lot of work to be done in training yet.  There's no guarantee we'll get there either.

I think a lot of teams can say that at this point in time. We were awful against ballycastle (no disrespect meant to ballycastle) and got through. So there's still a lot to be done of we want to even consider beating cdall.

Maybe the reason you think that loughgiel aren't at their full potential is sadly down the opposition they have met on the championship? Again I'm not meaning to be disrespectful but Rosas and glenariffe are div 2 teams and are there for a reason. They wouldn't pose any threat to good team like lgiel. St johns will give a better game but of they make the final, which I know they will, it will be their toughest game this year. Only then wil they see of they can move it up a gear.

Our side of the draw got us a very hard game with ballycastle and an even harder game after it. Maybe it's sometimes lucky to get the tougher side of the draw than the easy path?

Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals

Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one

Dunloy v cdall is in loughgiel.

Didn't get to the game the night but i would not read into it whatever way the result went the night.
I've seen enough of cdall and lgiel to know they aren't unbeatable so I take some confidence in that.

As for only playing at 75%? Lol yeah right. If they think that playing at level will win big ears then your deluded. Lgiel are playing at the level they have been the past 3 seasons. Their standards haven't dropped at all.

Gary's the manager of our minor team this year. Mushy and his brother Damian along with john martin are the hurling managers or the seniors

If you want to know how to catch a ball see Neil mc auley!  On Sunday he caught just about everything going against us!

Very true. Under age is where the kids get the skills and it at that stage you make them for the future.

We have extremely lucky this year that at U14 we have won the football, hurling and camogie. Granted we lost the football and hurling county finals but to win at the 3 codes for one club hasn't been done for a while. Hopefully we keep these kids going up through the grades as our current u16 and minors are weak due to lack of numbers.

Same for us tho our footballers should be in div 2. They made a pigs ear of their away games this season and could of went up had they done better.

Fair play to st johns for still being at the top in both codes. Don't know how they do it! Must be tough on the dual players. 

That's we competed in senior championship and div 1 at both codes. So did rossa. Only st johns are doing it at the min.
Is it a case now of concentrating on the one code your most likely to have success at?

Dunloy won hurling and were beaten by a point by Cargin in the semi of the football, think the year was 1998.  Had an excellent football team then, Dick, Patch and Conor Cunning were all well able to play football for Antrim had they not committed more to hurling!

Mind that year well. We had a good team then.
1990 we lost to st galls was it over in rasharkin? I Monday being at tr game as it was just after we had reached the hurling final.

Is the game still on tomorrow night between cdall and lgiel?

I don't doubt they will. But having too many constant starters over 30 for say 5 years for instance means your young subs get older and a lot quit due to no games.

Anyway lgiel are deserved favourites for the title with cdall second favs. We just can enjoy our game with no pressure whatsoever on us. We have a keeper who is 18 and never did nets till 2 months into the season along with 3 lads making their first senior season so we are in a good place for the next few years. Our star player shorty is only 23 so we can dwf build for the next while.

Realist were you playing in the minor final in 1997 when we beat Dunloy?

I was 20 then. Was playin u21 then.

JJ you musta been around the same time i was playing! lol dings def 35 as i played against him at every grade. DD is i think 34 and as you say martin, johnny, laim, neilly etc are all over 30 now. in fact the core of the team is in their 30's.

as you say they should enjoy it while it lasts as replacing those types of players is dammned near impossible no matter how good a squad you think you may have.

we had to do it, cushendall had to. it moves in circles for squads.

thant said we have alot of young fellas in the team now in their early 20's so that bodes well for the future.

[Great team, def but one which will soon lose a lot of great players to age]

IMO  they are the same as they were last year. They play a simple system really well and have one of the best forwards in Ireland who can score from anywhere.

Can they be beat? Yes. If cushendall get by us they have plenty of great hurlers who can beat them. Shane And Neil are pure quality and could win a game themselves.

If we get to play them there's no way on this earth we would fear them, no matter how good they were.

Great team, def but one which will soon lose a lot of great players to age.

A statement Loughgiel were saying about Dunloy for about half a dozen year before it ever happend (Dick, Ally, Patch etc). They carried on well into their high thirties and still contributed.. But point taken, Loughgiel will have a hell of alot of experienced players to replace in next 3-4 years.

Prib was we held on to them too long if I'm honest. They did contribute big time but you have to let the youth through or your in trouble.
That said loughgiel have won nothing at underage hurling this year. Am I right in that? If so I don't ever remember that happening before? We won u12 & 14, the dall under 16 I think, prob the johniees in minor and ballycastle at u21.