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« on: Today at 10:59:21 AM »
so interesting news from the county meeting Monday about how we are going forward now.

Senior championships will go ahead along with some league games. Fixtures will be released 2/3 days after the confirmation in July with 2 weeks allowed for training and then games to start.

Championship will only be within our own county and no ulster or All Ireland series.

U21 championship not for happening.

Antrim v Kerry game a priority as well as the Joe McDonagh cup games. will mean that league games will go ahead without county players for each club.

Underage games wont go ahead but Cul camps will in August if the clubs want to run it. If they dont its not a problem.

Still clarification required about attending games, social distancing measures, will they limit attendances at games, how this is to be done, will there be no one attending the games etc etc etc

Clubs will have to be responsible for ensuring the hygiene of the changing rooms, cleaning them done, sanitising procedures etc.

All interesting points and will no doubt cause debate.

« on: May 29, 2020, 11:32:41 AM »
yeah im only after seeing it. It was always going to get out and esp for rags like the Bel Tel or the news letter to jump al over to get a dig at the association.

« on: May 27, 2020, 11:16:11 AM »
Dont think the issue was a few lads pucking the ball about. Think it was a manager led session on club pitch. Think that may be the issue.

yeah thats what the bother seems to be. it was 6 players and a coach doing a part of a session.

firstly all GAA grounds are closed and no one is allowed on them for any use at all other than to cut them/maintain them. All gatherings and training's are banned as well and it was made very clear at the outset of this and the repercussions for clubs who broke this.

As i said before i get that the lads want to train and want to be back playing again but they have got to take a reality check here about whats going on around them. GAA clubs are incapable to ensuring the safety of the players, coaches etc atm unlike the professional soccer teams can with constant testing and hygiene measures.

Im frustrated by it all, so is everyone else, and we want our games back but it will come back around again when it is fit and safe to do so.

« on: May 26, 2020, 08:57:00 PM »
its known all over the place now and ive seen pictures and a video of them. the county had an email out Monday night after it warning about the pitches being closed and that teams would face being put out of the championship and players individually facing sanctions if caught training.

look i get lads are scunderred and want to train, we all do, and we want our games back again but we have to maintain what we are doing and listening to the rules of the association. just bide your time and it will be back again.

« on: May 26, 2020, 04:00:09 PM »
yeah he'd maybe want to stay away from writing stories about hurling in Cdall for the next while lol

ffs lads go to a field in the middle of nowhere not your own clubs pitch thats closed!

« on: May 21, 2020, 10:35:44 AM »
Yeah we did and when you look back on them pair of games against Rossa you realise how strong a team they were back then as well. That was a team that 2 years previous were in an All Ireland final and had a host of Antrim senior hurlers in their panel.

Ive a few paper cuttings here of games you might want as well for yourselves which ill send onto you.

« on: May 21, 2020, 09:09:36 AM »
Thats the link there MR2

We have loads of games up on our channel now from league match, underage games, camogie matches and All ireland semis etc. I remember being at that game as well! lol was the week after we beat Ballycastle in the hurling semi final so the whole thing was buzzing still thinking we could beat yourselves. But St Galls were a very strong team back then and much more physical that our lads were.

« on: May 20, 2020, 08:26:40 PM »
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.

Hereís the thing, youíd be a fool not to promote your own club/parish with some columns in a national paper.

Itís up to Brendan and core to through out a wider net for people to be interviewed, though in fairness what can we talk about? Itís dead! The Saffron Gael quiz is the best thing going on locally lol

Thats true but when lads are getting at him on twitter asking does he do that many interviews in Cdall to justify having a caravan there its telling a tale lol  ;D

The Saffron Gael is the best there is about for any new on Antrim GAA. Curly is always looking for new stories and for old ones to visit.

Id love to see more like that from our club teams in All ireland action - like is no footage of Ballycastle, Loughgiel and Rossa's club finals about? in the 80's? We have a fair nbit of our games up on our own YouTube channel (including a football semi final against yourselves back in 1990) but id like to see other clubs games.

« on: May 19, 2020, 11:07:23 AM »
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 01, 2020, 06:25:22 PM »
i look at Creggan to show why it doesnt work. For the record ive nothing against Creggan club, in fact they have made good strides to promote all 3 codes within themselves.

But, and there's always a but, they have thrown money (or an outside source has - i cant obviously confirm this) on outside men to come in and take their senior football team to try and bring success. It hasnt other than a few league titles which count for nothing imo.

For me personally i see that as an utter waste of time and money, time and money that would of been better vested into coaching and improving  the existing structures within the club itself. Obviously there will be people who disagree and thing its a good idea and that the right person wasnt there within the club to take the job on but ive yet to see a manager win a football or hurling championship for a club.

Its the lads and girls who have come through the underage set up with the help of coaches and managers that got them to that point. those people helped them get there and its those people you invest in so that they dont feel like its a waste of time or they are unappreciated for doing it all for free.

I was approached a few seasons back to take a senior camogie team in Derry. It was paid work but i turned it down to take on something else in my club for free at underage. Its your own club, its what your brought up supporting and playing for and money cant compare to it.

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: May 01, 2020, 10:06:46 AM »
i think thats it in a nutshell HS. If your standing in the rain taking a team for free and on the same pitch see another person taking an adult team for a wage you start to question why your putting yourself through it at times.

Once that starts then your into problems for your club as no one will want to do anything for free when others are getting a ££ in their pocket.

I've been involved with our senior hurling, football and camogie set up in this last 8 years and i know how hard it all is, how much time it takes up and the commitment level involved but at the same time none of us got paid for it - other than say a physio brought in out of hrs or the gym work. Our senior football management last season, we all took turns at washing the shirts. Its just part an parcel of the fabric of our set ups that everyone does their bit.

As you say HS, if we were all standing with our hand out wanting money for washing them well then we are going down a route that will never be sustainable.

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 29, 2020, 05:05:37 PM »
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

thats a good point there.

if your club constantly wants a 'big gun' or an outside coach each year to take the senior team then the expectation amongst players and supporters will always be high. it creates a scenario where other people may not feel good enough to fill those boots and the players will react the same way.

Ive seen it an extent before where players think that a better know person will bring success as opposed to someone who may not come with a name.

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 28, 2020, 06:59:14 PM »
Who in antrim is paying 20k to their managers?

Very few would be - maybe one or two...

to be fair i used that total on a numbers i heard threw about for some people to be paid to take teams. its pure conjecture but at the same times its more to do with the wastage given to mercenaries.

You can throw all the money you want at a senior team manager but without the years of hard work put in at under age it will amount to a small gain and long term loss.

Coach the coaches you have and it will produce the next line of senior managers

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 28, 2020, 11:43:21 AM »
the costs each year to a club are unreal. they have to pay more than any other sporting organisation about just to keep things going.

You have your insurance for the grounds and properties itself. within that you have rates, bin collections, oil bills, electric bills, potentially telephone bills, grounds maintenance, repairs to equipment etc etc. Clubs that have social clubs have then all thier fees to be included into the mix as well as well as legal costs for licencing etc.

After that your into players insurance for the GAA which varies based on the no of teams you have in hurling and football but is usually around £4-6k.

Camogie is a bit different. You have to pay an All Ireland levy of 350 euro just to be allowed to register a player on the system to play. After that you have the injury insurance fee which is around £2.5k per club. The ladies football will also be the same carry on.

All of the above requires a lot of money and for a club like ourselves it takes on average over £2k per week (last time it was worked out) to run it for a year. The above is all done for free by people and looked after and ran for each season for free the same as every other club around. We need that income from lottos, bars, draws, sponsorship, fundraisers etc to keep the doors open and provide the opportunity for our youth to play our great games.

then you go and hand £20k to someone to take a senior team for a year in the club. Go figure.

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: April 27, 2020, 07:12:45 PM »
sorry our misinterpreting what i meant.

A sponsor gets what they paid for - exposure and advertising of their business and will get a return for their money

i was meaning that an outside source paying for a manager to take a senior side.

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