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O'Neill, what about "shoot" Donaghy?

Two middle aged ladies head to Jamacia on holiday to see if what they say about black men is true.

First night one of them picks up a 25 year old black stud and has the time of her life. At breakfast next morning she tells all to her

friend and she agrees to try him out later. she too is equally impressed. Needless to say they continue until they are ready to leave

at the airport they ask the guy his name, and he says "Sno", the two women burst out laughing, he says what are you laughing at?

They say" our husbands will never believe us when we tell them we were delighted to see 9 inches of sno in Jamacia!"

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To be fair BC, you and I have had this conversation before and I have been consistently trying to explain that this is a modern urban phenomenon. I am not going to get into exact stats here, but the Ogs and the Harps have underage success to match that of Cross, no doubt about it. Around the late eighties / early nineties we won a number of County Feile titles.

I recall, after running Cross to four points in the 2003 County semi-final, with a very young team, feeling elated with the manner of the perfromance and confidently predicting a Senior Title in five years. Half of that team is gone and with it dreams turned to dust. This time last year I named a Harps fifteen who had played County football (minor / Senior), were still of footballing age and who were not playing football at all - the reality of our situation. Meanwhile, a matter of weeks ago I go up to Cross and watch a young team hammer our Seniors - a young team made up of promising young players who are beating down the door (and probably each other in training) to get onto the Senior Team, i.e. success breeding success.

That is the reason why I believe Cross could win twenty titles in a row.

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Need I say more Rufus. Cross don't create "prima donnas", you are part of a great club, wear your colours with pride and respect.
Over the past number of years Harps seniors have had good managers, but I firmly believe it wouldn't matter if Micko himself took them. There are a handfull of players who are committed and I feel for them, but unfortunately not enough. If the Harps go down and I think they would need a miracle at this stage, they will find it very difficult to get back. Hope I'm wrong.

[I would hope all county players are available for this weekend, it would help us a bit]

i wouldn't be a fan of play-offs but i understand what your saying.

I would hope all county players are available for this weekend, it would help us a bit.

Aye but we would need Kerry's county players!

Best:
       Dubai (before it got infested with brits)
       San Francisco
       Australia
       Amsterdam
       Corsica

Worst:
         Spain
         Dublin (rip off)
         Keady
        Portadown
        Randalstown
         

Hope Mediate wins..............sick listening to the yapping about Tiger's knee............funny it wasn't mentioned when he made birdie to take lead.....and they only repeated the putt 8 times.

See Irish News has result against cullaville as a draw. Absolute joke if this is allowed to stand. Harps played as well as i've seen for a while, thought Philly McKinney proved today he's as good a midfielder as there is in the county, collie Holmes was his usual rock solid, minnie played well, actually they all played well and special mention to dingle in goals, some great saves and kick outs excellent....willie watch out!
Hope they can continue the up turn in form on fri night at Dromintee.

[we will sure as f**k be lodging an objection]

Cullaville 1-10 Harps 0-14.  Unfortunately the ref was the only man in the place who thought it was a draw and actually gave a draw - eventhough 5fm were there and gave the result as 14 to 1-10 to the Harps.  He was a f**king laughin stock at the end and the sad thing is he'll probably hand in that score to the county board and we'll get screwed- although we will sure as f**k be lodging an objection.

REf was Vinceny O'Neill? from Cullyhanna, thought he did quite well during the game as it was a nasty enough game in parts - Chucky Morris got a complete judasing by one of the Hatzers, unsuprisingly the cullaville umpire seen nothing so he got away with it.

Great result for the Harps considering we were badly depleted, we showed a lot of fight and balls in the second half when Cullaville always managed to keep 2 or 3 ahead we never dropped the heads and got our reward in the end (I hope). Everyone played well with Philly McKinney, Kevin Kelly(0-4) & Collie Holmes dominant around the MF area.  Sean & Paddy Morrison contributed well in the forwards and Ebby worked his socks off as usual.  Joe Quigley got sent off near the end for a seemingly inoquous bump into the ref

Wouldn't hold my breath on an objection..............Harps have been "doormats" for years and nothing has changed.

As for the Cullaville player getting away with it.........who were they going to bring on to "right the wrong".........the Grimleys?

K. Kelly scored some great scores but his work rate was piss poor, for a big strong lad he should be knocking on the door of County football.

hardly think it matters where the final is played, Cross will win it with perhaps the Og's presenting the stiffest test.

Feile matchTuesday 6.30 granemore

IT is necessary to read between the lines in the statements that have accompanied the resignation of Adm. William Fallon, commander of US forces in the Middle East (CentCom). They show that the Bush administration remains bent on aggression against Iran. Ever since the US Embassy hostage crisis, Iran has been seen by America as a malign power, needing to be contained. Such a containment objective must have been shared equally by Fallon and Bush.

It is over the tactics that the two men have fallen out. Bush, staring at a two-term legacy of failure, sees the chance to quit next January, with one last military huzzah. He made it perfectly clear to his hosts on his visit to the Gulf in January that he was intent on confrontation — rather than the negotiation that Iran's Arab neighbors, his hosts, were urging on him. Here surely is the genesis of the rift between him and Fallon.

The admiral was being ordered to prepare an assault on Iran. This is a highly respected sailor who, in his previous command in the Pacific, earned a reputation for diplomacy as well as command. He is credited with establishing good military relations with the Chinese despite the growing suspicion with which each country views the other's military. If, indeed, such orders as an assault on Iran came from the White House, Fallon will have immediately realized their madness.

A strike on Iran, almost certainly with cruise missiles and Stealth bombers, would be an unmitigated disaster for US interests in the Middle East. Iran would immediately unleash its radical Shiite attack units in Iraq, plunging that country into even bloodier chaos. It would also undoubtedly step up its intervention in Afghanistan, tipping what is an already precarious security situation toward outright failure. Tehran would also urge Hamas and Hezbollah into action against US interests and, for good measure, it might seek to punish Washington's long-standing friends in the region. A Bush attack on Iran would, therefore, be a tactical disaster and, in the long run, might not even advance objectives that Fallon says he shares with his commander in chief. Fallon is too good an officer to make clear his real feelings of the real reasons for his resignation.

Defense Secretary Gates, having said what a wonderful officer Fallon has been, has added that it is "right" the admiral retire. Why "right"? Senior US military officers do not normally resign when they are profiled in the media. It is clear what has happened. Fallon has resisted one last crazy play by the Bush administration and fed his views, on an off-the-record basis to a journalist. The hope should not be that in retirement, Fallon will not leave it too long before he adds his voice to the other retired senior US commanders who have lambasted this learn-nothing US administration for its ignorant and stupid international conduct. An attack by Washington on Iran would be a colossal continuation of that policy and one from which it might well be impossible to recover.

Time to check his medication.

[Sean Doran]

John Grimley in goals!

The Grimleys were always big for their age Uladh, but I think it's stretching it a bit to suggest a one year old John Grimley would have done nets in the minor final. That said - it may be coincidence or maybe you knew, but John Grimley was indeed our goalkeeper when playing Minor in 1983. Mark was a non playing sub! One year later, they both started midfield in a County Senior Football Final!   

Edit; I'm a bit slow on it - John Grimley was of course in our juvenile team of 1983 as goalkeeper and was mentioned as such on this thread!!   

Rufus can you post the 68 minor team on here please.

With pleaseure DC. I would love to say I knew the line up off the top of my head - it necessitated a phone call to Rufus Senior.

The Harps side that claimed the County Minor Title in 1968, with victory over Clann Eireann in Crossmaglen was:

                                                            Don Richards

Brendan Lappin                                Pat McKenna (Captain)                              Jamesie Vallely

Gerry Cauldwell                                        Sean Doran                                      Sean Dingle Daly

                                Marty Kelly                                        Gerald Grimley

Brendan Louden Kelly                             Martin Duggan                                      Niall Grimley

Stephen Mackle                                     Mick McKenna                                      Joe McKenna

Subs: Eugene Connolly, Danny Cassidy, Gregory Knipe, Martin Keating, Don Stevenson and Roy Taylor.



Bloody hell!!! How many all time greats is it possible to have in one team???       

Definately two of the All time Greats.

Rufus can you post the 68 minor team on here please.

Worst display I've seen in over 20 years. No game plan at all. Are there no talented young fellas playing rugby.....France, Wales all are prepared to give youth a chance....EOS's idea is bring on a couple of lads with 5 mins to go.
Time for a clean sweep, get rid of all the dead wood.

Sharia law in UK ' unavoidable'
 
Rowan Williams 
The adoption of some aspects of Islamic sharia law in the UK 'seems unavoidable', the Archbishop of Canterbury has said.

Dr Rowan Williams said there was a place for finding a 'constructive accommodation' in areas such as marriage - allowing Muslim women to avoid western divorce proceedings.

Other religions enjoyed such tolerance of their own laws, he pointed out, but stressed that it could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual's rights as a citizen.

He said it would also require a change in perception of what sharia involved beyond the 'inhumanity' of extreme punishments and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.

Dr Williams said: 'It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact, certain conditions of sharia are already recognised in our society and under our law, so it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system.

'We already have in this country a number of situations in which the internal law of religious communities is recognised by the law of the land as justifying conscientious objections in certain circumstances.'

He added: 'There is a place for finding what would be a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law as we already do with aspects of other kinds of religious law.

'It would be quite wrong to say that we could ever license a system of law for some community which gave people no right of appeal, no way of exercising the rights that are guaranteed to them as citizens in general.

'But there are ways of looking at marital disputes, for example, which provide an alternative to the divorce courts as we understand them.

'In some cultural and religious settings they would seem more appropriate.'

He said people needed to look at Islamic law 'with a clear eye and not imagine, either, that we know exactly what we mean by sharia and just associate it with ... Saudi Arabia, or whatever.

'Nobody in their right mind would want to see in this country the kind of inhumanity that has sometimes been associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states: the extreme punishments, the attitudes to women.'

There were questions about how it interacted with human rights, he said.

'But I do not think we should instantly spring to the conclusion that the whole of that world of jurisprudence and practice is somehow monstrously incompatible with human rights just because it doesn't immediately fit with how we understand it.'

The "teddy-bears" are f****d now.