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#16
Quote from: laoislad on June 22, 2016, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on June 22, 2016, 07:19:34 PM
Come on the Rep you have all of my support!!
Wales probably cheering for us also hoping they will get yer lot
More than likely that's the case although they haven't done that well against us in the past.
#17
Quote from: gawa316 on June 22, 2016, 07:19:34 PM
Come on the Rep you have all of my support!!
Psyching myself up for this games by listening to Foggy Dew and Dublin in the Green :)
#18
Come on Ireland - do your northern cousins a favour.

Erin go bragh.

COYBIG.
#19
Quote from: snoopdog on June 21, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
Congrats to the north for qualifying for the last 16 an amazing feat when you only have 40 professional footballers. How that german game finished 1 nil I will never know. Mcgovern was brilliant .
Hopefully our boys will get a win tomorrow and join you in the last 16.
Yep - really hoping that your boys do it tomorrow but also for very selfish reasons. If your lot can win then the third place team from E should put out the Turks and we would probably be facing Wales rather than France this weekend. So there'll be at least one member of the GAWA cheering you on tomorrow :)
#20
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2016, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: passedit on June 21, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on June 21, 2016, 03:50:23 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 21, 2016, 02:38:31 PM
I think Martin and the Shinners are firmly OWCers now.

He probably doesn't even know Ulster has 3 other counties.

SUFTUM!

/Jim.

My daughter was treated to several renditions of the Billy Boys on the train by their Loyal supporters on their way to the 'FANZONE'. All pissed already an especially delighted to have an obvious fenian (school uniform) to intimidate.

Hope the cnuts get bate 10
That's a downright lie. Tonto says they don't do that sort of thing anymore. They have all been brainwashed into thinking differently.
Sadly I never said that we didn't have some hangers on that have probably never darkened the door of Windsor Park.

If I had been posting this up 5 hours ago, I would have said entirely honestly that I genuinely didn't remember the last time (if ever) I heard Billy Boys being sung. Sadly, as I left the fanzone earlier I did hear a group of utter scumbags singing it as I was walking passed the Odyssey. I can only say, that quite bizarrely none of them were wearing NI colours and they were booed by other NI fans who started to sing Green and White Army.

On behalf of NI fans, can I say how embarrassed I am for their behaviour and how sorry I am for the ordeal suffered by anyone who had to listen to it.
#21
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 19, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
In the last 10 years Irishmen have won 9 majors (Harrington 3 mcilroy 4 Clarke and McDowell one each.  Now Shane Lowry is leading the US open by four shots going into the final round.  By my calculations that would make 10 majors in 10 years from an island of 5million should Lowry hang on to the lead.

Compare that to England with 12 times the population with only one English born winner in the same period i.e Danny Willet.  Before ye start, Justin rose was born in South Africa.

Fairly impressive I would say
Yes 6 majors from a population of 1.8 million makes NI the most successful nation in the golfing world :-)
#22
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2016, 10:47:07 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
Ok Tonto, but why not a 'go it alone' 32 county parliament? We're nice enough down here.
Probably for the same reason nationalists will never be unionists. Emotion. Identity.
Fair enough, yet you expect nationalists in NI to be ok under a regime they have no.emotion or identity with.
Accepting the state's right to exist and its current constitutional status is not the same as wanting it to exist. Politically nationalists accepted that in 1998, but mentally it's taking a wee while to process  ;)
#23
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
Ok Tonto, but why not a 'go it alone' 32 county parliament? We're nice enough down here.
Probably for the same reason nationalists will never be unionists. Emotion. Identity.
#24
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 09:19:02 AM
Quote from: michaelg on June 18, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:48:27 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2016, 12:18:34 AM
278 posts in  :o
It's only taken 628 posts to blow my cover.

Thought I was doing a cracking job as a fifth columnist.

Don't be off joining M15 just yet I had be doubt's after reading only one of your posts.

Here is the question for you why is it that Unionist can feel comfortable supporting the Irish Rugby team in Dublin and nationalist/republicans don't feel the same level of comfort at Windsor Park ?
To be honest you'd have to ask a nationalist who doesn't feel comfortable at Windsor Pk or a unionist who goes to rugby that question. I'm neither.

Fair enough but I was asking you for an opinion.
Ok - maybe it's because unionists accept the legitimacy of the southern state even if they have no allegiance to it and are willing to respect the jurisdiction they are in, whilst nationalists have never accepted that NI has a right to exist?

Any Unionist that I know who support tge Irish Rugby team have massive allegiance to a team which represents the Irish nation.
Th Ireland rugby team represents the island of Ireland I.e. RIO and NI. That is why unionists are happy to support the team.

On that basis a united Ireland should be easy then one Irish team representing 32 counties has support of Unionisim so one parliment for 32 counties shouldn't be a problem then.
As part of the U.K.? Most unionists probably wouldn't have a major problem with the 26 defecting counties rejoining.
#25
Ok just a few things:

1. It's interesting to see how many of you sing the praises of the rugby men and have no problem with Ravenhill, yet they also bring the Ulster Flag (6 county version) to support a 9 county team, but the problem arises when it's the flag used for a 6 county team (ie the NI football team).

2. I think some of you would be very surprised about the overlap between NI football supporters and Ulster rugby supporters.

3. Don't get the Irish nation mixed up with the Irish rugby team. You don't have to be Scouse to support Liverpool.

4. The symbolism of the tricolour may be inclusive but if you seriously think that unionists feel represented by an orange stripe and therefore the flag you're deluded. The same argument could be made about the Union Flag by the way - the cross of St Patrick represents Ireland, so therefore represents you... Doesn't it?  No, didn't think so.
#26
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 01:08:31 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:56:19 AM
They have allegiance to the team, not to an "Irish nation". Otherwise by definition they wouldn't be unionist.

Not just as simple as that...Unionism and Irishness are never polar opposits. Edward Carson was both Unionist and committed to his Irish identity.
Yes but obviously not the idea of an Irish nation!

Just like you can be Scottish and British, for Carson he was Irish and British.
#27
They have allegiance to the team, not to an "Irish nation". Otherwise by definition they wouldn't be unionist.
#28
Quote from: T Fearon on June 18, 2016, 12:37:32 AM
I for one am amazed by the hypocrisy on this thread.No one lambasts and insults Catholics and catholicism  more nowadays than lapsed Catholics,of whom there are many on this thread and board.To feign some proxy offence and presumably reinstate as temporary Catholics to do so,and be offended by coloured cloths and music is laughable.

The NI football team reflects the state with a unionist majority,and a part of the UK.The Republic team represents nationalists North and South.For football loving neutralists you can now go and watch a game at either side's home  stadium in an atmosphere devoid of sectarianism,and that is progress.
Good post. Never thought I'd say that about one of your posts TRTF but there's a lot of sense in it.
#29
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2016, 12:18:34 AM
278 posts in  :o
It's only taken 628 posts to blow my cover.

Thought I was doing a cracking job as a fifth columnist.

Don't be off joining M15 just yet I had be doubt's after reading only one of your posts.

Here is the question for you why is it that Unionist can feel comfortable supporting the Irish Rugby team in Dublin and nationalist/republicans don't feel the same level of comfort at Windsor Park ?
To be honest you'd have to ask a nationalist who doesn't feel comfortable at Windsor Pk or a unionist who goes to rugby that question. I'm neither.

Fair enough but I was asking you for an opinion.
Ok - maybe it's because unionists accept the legitimacy of the southern state even if they have no allegiance to it and are willing to respect the jurisdiction they are in, whilst nationalists have never accepted that NI has a right to exist?
#30
Quote from: SkillfulBill on June 18, 2016, 12:35:24 AM
Quote from: Tonto on June 18, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2016, 12:18:34 AM
278 posts in  :o
It's only taken 628 posts to blow my cover.

Thought I was doing a cracking job as a fifth columnist.

Don't be off joining M15 just yet I had be doubt's after reading only one of your posts.

Here is the question for you why is it that Unionist can feel comfortable supporting the Irish Rugby team in Dublin and nationalist/republicans don't feel the same level of comfort at Windsor Park ?
To be honest you'd have to ask a nationalist who doesn't feel comfortable at Windsor Pk or a unionist who goes to rugby that question. I'm neither.