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#1081
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 12, 2018, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
Literally dont know where to start on replying to a couple of the comments above so maybe just best to bow out at this stage.  :-X

Thought that myself!
#1082
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
October 12, 2018, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.

Plenty of parking in Lamh Dhearg. Good routes in and out. When they've been tested they've done well. Last few times I've been to Creggan or Ahoghill I've had to park half way up some mucky road and hoof it on foot. Dunloy and Ballycastle good venues indeed tried and tested but hardly fair on St John's to travel two years in a row.

Dunloy is OK but do you not think for a second that there is a duty on the GAA to push a few Belfast's way, you know Ireland's second city where hurling is struggling a bit?

Its not the clubs in NA or SW Antrims fault that hurling in the city is struggling? Why is it struggling? Its been mismanaged for years and I honestly believe it isn't the clubs fault in SA.Why do you think St Endas and Rossa went to NA to improve? Or why have Kevin Lynches or Burt came to NA? Its organised and people at the top showed an interest in the future of game in that area.

In my opinion the blame lies firmly with the previous county boards and regimes. It's an age old argument that has likely been played to death before on here and more than likely will be again. Of course there is a duty to promote it.
#1083
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.
#1084
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 12, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Quote from: otbar on October 12, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.

Like who? The only one I can think of his Adrian Dougan.
#1085
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 11, 2018, 11:34:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

Dunloy. Better parking.
#1086
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 11, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

What have Creggan ever done on you? You're a bitter bitter man.
#1087
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.
#1088
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 11, 2018, 09:35:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
to be fair i was wondering that about Glenravel this year. they won the junior in 2016 and went up for one year and then straight back down again and win it again. whats the point in that? All they did was prove that they are still a strong junior team. Cant see any merit in how that will ever improve a team.

My bro in law lives up there and from what he's told me, they had 5 retirements at the start of the year and 2 in the states. 4 came back to play through the year.
#1089
GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
October 10, 2018, 10:53:22 PM
Touts our n all that jazz.. :-X
#1090
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 10, 2018, 10:51:42 PM
 Not debating that fact. A damn good club by the way!
#1091
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 10, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
He will say St. Enda's aren't a Belfast team....

And you are correct! They could be SW or NA.. don't forget SA couldn't cater for their teams a few years back so they came to the dark side  ;)
#1092
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 10, 2018, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
I'm just talking about the surface and it being in Belfast.  You wouldn't complain travelling for the surface there. Corrigan every bit as good as what Casement was in my opinion.

That said I always remember the same people slabbering about having to play in Casement for hurling County finals involving two NA clubs.

naw your grand, we dont want to play in corrigan. Ahoghill will do us fine or even somewhere else halfway between until we get a county ground. until then we will continue 'slabbering' about it.

Well if, as I've heard, you are going to be playing your minor final before the IFC final, you'd hardly expect your slabbering to work with 3 Belfast clubs involved.

What 3 Belfast clubs?
#1093
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 08, 2018, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 07, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
Duneane parish county final.  MR2 must be in meltdown.

MR2 has gone AWOL........Foreign Legion?

He's been slabbering on other pages.. Maybe censorship.. :-X :-X :-X :-X
#1094
GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
October 07, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2018, 08:39:06 PM
The Down football match putting a new spin on the usual "spectators jumping the wire."

Mental stuff. Disgusting! This was a replay after the first game was abandoned due to boxing!
#1095
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2018
October 07, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 07, 2018, 09:17:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 07, 2018, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 07, 2018, 08:08:44 PM
They didn't hit 15 wides friend ... No harm to you .
Indeed they had a dubious enough point in first half

Nothing dubious about it chap. U at the game? What did u make of the ref?

Out of his depth  of big match experience.

Missed a few calls

But  crucially  did  favour either team until sending off the no.4

Agree, but he deserved to go. Can't be kicking out like that.