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Donaghy had some game, really made the difference in the last quarter. Clarke MOTM but is was shared with Donaghy.

Campbell was given his chance to start but showed he is best off the bench for impact.

Even Canavan was full of praise for Armagh after he picked Kildare to win.

McGeeney got his tactics right and his players did the job for him.

Strength and conditioning carried them at full rate to the end.

Is it Dick Clerkin or Datsun Donaghy on commentary?

Dick Clerk in is a terrible pundit. Acting like a monaghan cheerleader and offers nothing but bland comments

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Clerkin is dire.

So you can't just admit that Democrats lie and make shit up just like Republicans do?  (I admit Republicans do it)

You can't acknowledge that the senior Democrats who lead the party, are enermous beneficiaries of the very policies they claim cause and perpetuate inequality. Yet when push comes to shove they go ahead and object to that wind farm or take advantage of that tax loophole in exactly the same way the Republicans do.

You're presenting two different issues.

1. I absolutely concede that the Dems will exaggerate and, I'm sure, from time to time, make shit up. They're politicians. I have never claimed otherwise.

2. We've been over the hypocrisy thing already. And I don't really give a bollocks. Policies matter. I care more that the Republican Party, on the whole, wants to cast gays back into the closet than I do that some "devout" GOP politician is screwing around with a male prostitute on the sly. Individuals can be idiots and hypocrites. What the party wants to do is what matters. I'd prefer that a hypocritical Kennedy was eased aside in favour of a less entitled person, but the party policy is more important.

I've already said this several times.

So if your candidate has low or no integrity (such as Ted Kennedy or Trump) do you not care as long as they promote causes you support?

If Tony Fearon made the world a better place  I could live with it.

But would you vote for him?

Buy a new battery.

True. Hoping it's not an electrical problem draining it

If the battery is a few years old then it could be the battery. I was away for a week with work last month and came back and my car didn't start. It took some industrial strength jump leads to get it started as the standard Halfords type were useless. As we were taking my car to the airport last week my missus said she wasn't going on holiday until I got a new battery. I forgot how dear the f**kers were!

That was a bit last minute and unreasonable of her!

anyone any idea on how to stream sky sports arena given its not on  mobdro app ?.

Do you have a Sky subscription?

Another exceptional article:

https://reaction.life/charlie-gard-facts/

This shouldn't apply to just children,but any human life.It is illogical to continue treating incurable illnesses,in cases where as a wide a range of medical opinion and expertise as possible maintains this to be the case.Of course it is only natural that hope is held among the family members,even for a miracle.

Sadly too much of the sensationalist media distorts the facts and insinuates that treatment is being withheld to save money,which the public believes.

So the Pope was wrong to get involved and offer false hope while making some theological point?

If you think there is any hope however illogical it seems to others you will hold onto it... maybe those who dont have children dont fully understand this.

I don't think you'll find too many who disagree with that. That doesn't mean it's what's best for the child. The attacks on GOSH and its staff are certainly not in the best interests of anybody.

From Janice Turner in The Times

Imagine startng your nursing shift on a children's cancer ward with demonstrators calling you scum. Or trying to keep your daughter calm as she is admitted for heart surgery amid a placard-waving march. If we can, why couldn't Charlie Gard's parents who purported to be the embodiment of selfless love?

They said it was all for Charlie, that they just wanted to save their little boy. They said the death threats to Great Ormond Street staff were not in their name, their case just struck an emotional chord. And when the legal arguments were about efficacy of treatment, we could forgive their strange alliances with far-right US preachers, put their screaming at judges and denial of expert evidence down to a noble, grief-fuelled battle for their son.

And yesterday in a hospice poor Connie Yates and Chris Gard finally said farewell to their terminally ill son. But did it have to end this way, with only anger for the hospital that cared for him for so long? They must have known, or at least have been advised, that dragging GOSH back to court then declaring "we've been denied our final wish" to let him die at home would only recharge the hate. They ignored the ever-patient doctors saying no amount of love could get Charlie's vast high-pressure ventilator through their front door or that taking him out of ICU risked a disordered, painful death.

If they die we don't believe we'll see them in some better place
Because this wasn't about their child, but about them. They "promised Charlie" he'd sleep for two days in the home he'd never seen, could never see, since he was unconscious, in the cot they had bought. No matter that their tragic fantasy of an ordinary life would divert intensive care staff away from other babies who might live. As the Rev Giles Fraser wrote in The Guardian in praise of the Gards: "I would rain fire on the whole world to hold my child for a day longer."

So would I. Because parental love is the most selfish love of all. Not altruistic, but Darwinian: we are programmed to perpetuate our genes, our bloodline. We'd give our children our savings, organs, our last breath. Yet we do so heedless of all beyond our own kin, and drive our precious cargo around in fortress 4x4s, unconcerned that we imperil every other passing kid.

Yet is parental concern, at heart, about our own self-protection? Please don't stray far, I'd say when my sons were small. Please don't ride motorbikes or join the army, I beg now. Just try not to die! Not only because I love you, for your unique, wonderful self, but because your death would leave me struggling to live. In an areligious world our children are our household gods. And if they die we don't believe we'll see them again in some better place: they are just gone and we are left alone, undone.

So the Gards cannot be blamed for delaying the ultimate emotional pain, even if it meant perpetuating their son's physical suffering. Was it ever a loving act to keep Charlie alive? Even if the US neurologist Professor Michio Hirano had been permitted to treat him, the prognosis was hopeless. His most successful patient so far, six-year-old Arturito Estopinan, is still profoundly brain-damaged and needs a respirator most of the time. His father reports: "He can now move his fingers, hands and toes, and sit (with support) at a 90 degree angle for 90 minutes compared to a 45 degree angle for 15 minutes previously."

The parent prepared to lose their child is the truly selfless one
Is that enough of an existence for a child? Arturito's parents clearly think so and sacrifice their lives to care for him. But as medical science advances, children, many born prematurely with profound disabilities, are sustained where once they'd have peacefully died. With his rare genetic disorder Charlie Gard could never have been, whatever his mother's belief, "a normal little boy", but barely sentient, strapped to machinery, in medically preserved limbo. In the hospital's oddly poetic legalese "Charlie's has been an existence devoid of all benefit and pleasure", "his relationship with the world around him has been one of suffering".

David Cameron was once asked if his son Ivan, who had cerebral palsy and severe epilepsy, enjoyed his life. "Not really," Cameron replied. "I think his life is very tough." He and his wife always downplayed their sacrifices to care for him, until his death aged six: "It was only Ivan that ever really suffered." Their love was clear-eyed: we know the price of still holding you in our arms is your pain.

It is perhaps to be expected that Giles Fraser, a priest, values belief over science, thinks that "love must carry greater weight than the calculations of reason". But sometimes love is cruel and faith is blind. In 2012 the High Court ruled to switch off the life support of an eight-year-old with lung failure whose Christian parents wished to keep him alive. Ignoring evidence that he had no hope of recovery and would die of an infection, they insisted they could summon up a miracle with their prayers.

It is the parent who is prepared to put their child first, even if it means losing him, who is truly selfless. Like Mark and Julie James, who accompanied their son Daniel, 23, to a Dignitas clinic, because he felt that being paralysed from the neck down in a rugby accident had given him "a second-class existence". And this is what the Gards faced in the end.

When we speak of "dignity in dying" and "quality of life" we mostly mean the old, those who've already had a life, not someone who has barely lived. The only positive outcome of Charlie's tragic year is that he has made us consider many hard truths. Including whether the pure force of parental love is always best for a child.

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The hassle with setting up a VPN on holidays is not worth the tenner you will spend on GAAGO, a vastly improved service.

It is amazing the number of "GAA people", who if they were here would pay the €25 for the ticket, but if they are not here they spend half the week fiddling with VPNs just to avoid giving the GAA a tenner.

Except that once Sky go operates it's not just a single GAA match but your whole subscription comes on board. Certainly wouldn't be worth it for just one game. 

If he fires it will take a good team to stop.......

If I had a pound every time an Armagh supporter said or thought that over the last 15 years.

Any chance either of them might have a fall in the shower before the fight and avoid any embarrassment?

What make of car?

Very few of us will have gone through the sorrow and the grief of Charlie Gard's parents nor experienced at first hand the pain and suffering of a first born child struggling with a terminal illness. The parents will never recover from this loss and while many, standing back in judgment, will disagree with much that has happened regarding the legal case and other interjections, all must realise that grieving parents will do whatever they can for their dying child. I would hope but probably know otherwise that the parents will be supported by many of those previously involved as they struggle through the dark times ahead for them.

We should be thankful to the staff of GOSH and the facility they provide to all NHS users in their care for children with relatively rare conditions. They always put the needs of children first. Many from this country have availed of their help. They have not come through this unscathed.

Rightfully, there is and will be anger towards those who exploited the plight of Charle Gard and his parents for their own theological and political ends but no one should blame the parents for being exploited by people from Trump and US ideologues fighting to remove healthcare from their own citizens, to the Pope and preachers making it a right to life issue because Charlie was an infant, to the US doctor seeking publicity while not bothering to review the child's records or scans.

Not often I would quote the Daily Mail as a source but it is worthwhile looking at this article......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4741296/The-experts-saviours-gave-Charlie-s-parents-hope.html

It's still the defence that's a worry especially when Kildare run at them.