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#1
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
December 05, 2010, 02:41:11 PM
Can the clubs in Down and the CB included become creative in a money saving venture?
We all know the financial stress most if not all clubs find themselves in, we have to be inventive.
We all can get together rather than separately look at a viable moneysaving exercise and in the past the GAA people are always prepared to find ways out of problems.
What's one if not the biggest outlay of teams,,, physio and medical costs; outside of managers they are the biggest expenses facing clubs.
Could I suggest that our clubs consider pooling together to meet physio costs?
How could this happen in a finacially viable way. My clubs yearly fees are roughly 10k, local clubs (10 mile radius) including Liatroim, Castlewellan, Downpatrick, Clonduff and Kilcoo have roughly the same costs give or take a few pounds in. The cost approx 60k, average wage for Physio in hospital 25-30k, therefore our 6 local clubs alone could actually pay for 2 full time Physios but there isn't the work to justify this. Lets expand this and add all the clubs in Down to employ 2 or 3 Physios the cost could be divided among the 49 clubs in Down with a sliding scale cost to each club i.e. the smaller clubs who have not the same need could pay less into this pool and so all clubs in Down have access to full-time, fully qualified physios the overall cost to clubs is reduced, the out of work physios have full time work, the players have immediate access to a professional set-up thus aiding recovery time and the clubs outlay is immediatley reduced.
Lets expand this and throw in the CB and all the various teams they have, Mens Senior, u-21's, minors and the hurlers and the camogs and the ladies footballers, surely this would also reduce the CB's extensive and expensive medical bills?
This scheme could and would need to be co-ordinated and maybe the CB could bring in an adminstrator to help run this scheme.
#2
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
December 02, 2010, 02:08:05 PM
James book makes some great reading and I think there could be merit in his idea that the championship should be changed into 8 groups of four with seeding based on National League positions. It will obviously dilute the Provincial championships but there is an inherent bias there anyway with Munster and Connaught having a free run for the 2 dominant teams in each Province(Kery/Cork and Galway/Mayo) and also they minefields of the larger provinces Ulster and Leinster making it more difficult for teams from these provinces getting a run.
He believes the leagues would become stronger and meaningful as teams try to get a good seeding for the Championship and then the actual Championship will afford teams not just 1 or 2 games if you get through the back door but atleast 3 games.
Sometimes change is hard to swallow but the GAA has always progressed and developed by making changes, however slow, and so this idea might be worth a chance. The above format will give teams a steady structure of games bringing some different matchups and also improve the value of the league. It might also bring less disruption to club football where there are sometimes very large gaps in the present championship timetable.
Congratulations James, good luck with sales a good Christmas read.
#3
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 16, 2010, 11:57:05 AM
Have to disagree with you Mourne, last night and indeed the u-16's finals played the previous weekend under lights was just brilliant. It allowed the young lads to go out with their peers (A and B finalists) and play football without being over awed or sidetracked by the senior final. It gave them a great opportunity to play under lights in front of 2 very big crowds on each night. The standard of each final was at the highest level  and a credit to their respective clubs. The atmosphere generated from the stand was electric at times and it just simply would not have got the same attention if played before a senior final during the day. I've been too many a final where the minors was only an add on with the crowds not arriving to well into the second half or after the match. It also allowed true gaels the opportunity to see the standards throughout our county as alot of people would before have only had a passing interest in the B final where now it has equal billing and you could have a chance to view some of the so called lesser lights in the county. Well done to Bord na Nog, keep it up Sean McC, I think you are on a winner here. Also you could actually hear the pa system where in Newry it was like listening to a dalek.
#4
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
July 10, 2010, 04:41:47 PM
I was talking to a friend in Germany and he said Paul the psychic Octopus has picked Down to beat Longford tonight and Bryansford for the senior championship, so its not a 2 horse race its not even a four legged race but its an eight legged race  ::) come on yee beauties :o
#5
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
July 02, 2010, 01:59:51 PM
I only called it as I saw it. I also spoke to a few Stone ex-players and it was they who commented that the new coach encouraged and trained the players to this rough house tactics e.g. stopping the runner who had passed the ball and also their tackling drills were more akin to rugby sessions or ju-jitsu!! Also if you read my comments I do say that every club has players who will bend the rules as much as they humanly can, the so called hard men, and i also said all clubs have a duty through their coaches managers and committees to try and stamp that out. I have just picked up on the general theme of off ball incidents as mentioned in the previous threads and it so happens this happened in our game not just once( Magiinn concussed) and Bonny thumped but also it seemed a general trend of tackling and off ball incidents through out particular punching the ball in the tackle and pulling and dragging of ball carriers. I didn't mention the vitriolic abuse hurled out to our manager ( will definitley not print what was said -  more saddened than disgusted) by so called supporters and one of the selectors ( small ginger haired man that jumped up and down mancally on numerous occassions screaming to his palyer " cut the f**k out of them etc etc). My real point was that for the last few years the Stone seemed to encourage good flowing football, (All Ireland 7's and county final) but now look to have moved away from that even though they basically have the same group of players.  ::) ::)
#6
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
July 01, 2010, 02:33:19 PM
Its hard enough getting refs never mind umpires and linesmen, plus county board doesn't want to pay them for championship matches this summer, cut backs or something? Have to say there does seem to be a bit of thuggery coming back into the game and every club has there so called "hardmen". I'm a wee bit surprised by the actions of Longstone players especially 6 and the big sub 22 (caught the Fords young midfielder with an off ball haymaker). To be fair to Stone 6 he wouldn't be known as a dirty player but the punches and grappling etc dished out to Maginn was unacceptable and very unlike them. Could there new manager be looking for this more dirty off the ball incidents, heard their training has involved some more dubious tactics in recent times, come back Frank all is forgiven!!? Stone are always hard but fair and in recent years have been known as a good football side, just would hate to see them and indeed any club, and we all have these type of players, resorting to this behaviour. Let the coachs, managers and committees nip these off ball incidents in the bud they have no place in the game particularly if refs can't keep up with play or choose not to see such incidents. Its a coincidence that the ref in the Stone game was from Kilcoo and as the mellee ensued he decided to stand 70 yards away for the 2 odd mins and then proceed to book the two boys standing nearest him, while the culprits get off scott free!
#7
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 28, 2010, 11:05:52 AM
The All-Ireland SFC qualifier round 2 draw is:

Kildare or Antrim v Leitrim

Dublin v Tipperary

Cork v Cavan

Offaly v Waterford

Galway or Sligo v Wexford

Fermanagh v Armagh

Down v Longford

Westmeath v Derry

Has to be seen as a good draw especially with home advantage but need to be careful.
#8
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 21, 2010, 08:43:26 AM
The minor management have a particularly tough job too get the team prepared especially if any of the school teams get a run and also with exams. This though is similar for all minor squads in each county, we do not have a monopoly on this. The fact is though the management have had 6 years and only won 1 trophy, granted it was the All-Ireland but we lost 2 Ulster championship finals. I think rather than being shoved they should step down and be thanked for the sterling work they put in but like an old school report I think it will read, "Tried hard, could have done better, results don't lie, potential not realised". A fresh face/management team would do no harm but maybe the County board and the current mangement might feel they have done well and are content with the last 6 years results???
Seniors can only be described as pathetic, stopped after 18 mins, Harte had the the measure of us from the sideline, he responded, mixed and matched and eventually wore us into the ground. We could do with some of his tactical nous, the players should also regroup and then try to play for 70 mins rather then  their short sharp burst. Canavan could be right we may have not been fit enough also. And McHugh and Burns nailed it when they said we hadn't the mental strength and belief that is required to win at this higher level. Overall a dissappointing and poor weekend for Down atleast we didn't boo ::)
#9
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 18, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
Should be 2 good matches 2moro. Minors need to be 100% committed to get past Tyrone anything less could spell disaster. The team looks organised and well balanced just hope the edge isn't taken off them with St Colmans exploits early in year. Senior game could really be fascinating battle with some very interesting match ups and it could well be down to which set of forwards capitalises on defensive frailities. I think the introduction of Maginn and Gordon could well swing its Downs way. :o
#10
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 18, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
Kilcoo game dire, liatroim only 2/3 shots in second half with all but O'Prey behind the ball and no support but big Austin will only be looking at the result not the aesthetics of the game and yes not a score in the second half from the Fontenoys. Kilcoo marginally better but not capable of breaking down Liatroims blanket or all out defence. Not direct and incisive enough and too many handpasses to get behind the Liatroim defence. Lavery and Brannigan missing for Kilcoo plus a couple of minors but Liatroim missing Doyle, McCrickard and McCartan. Tepid and turgid affair including the 6 mins of extra time ::)
#11
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 16, 2010, 09:02:37 PM
Hellooooo!!! Any one thereeeeee!!!Matches on Sunday plus full round of league gamessssss!!!! ;)
#12
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 15, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
MY PREDICTIONS

SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP  Roinn  1   

1 Baile Cholmain (Ballyholland)   V Caislean Ruairi  (Rostrevor)- 
2 Boireann (Burren)    V  Loch an Oileain  (Loughinisland) -
3  Liatroim (Liatroim)    V Cloch Fhada  (Longstone)-
An Riocht (An Riocht)     V  Cluain Daimh  (Clonduff)- .
Droichead Mhaigh Eo (Mayobridge) V  Rinn Mhic  Giolla Rua (Warrenpoint)
Sabhaill (Saval)    V  Baile Ui  Mhairtin (Ballymartin)
7  Dun Padraig (Downpatrick)  V   Cill  Chua (Kilcoo)
8 Ath Bhriain (Bryansford )    V  Caislean an  Mhuillin (Castlewellan) of the round but bye bye

INTERMEDIATE  FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP  Roinn 1   
(1)  Gleann (Glenn)     V  Clann na Banna (Clann na Banna)-
(2)  Ard Ghlais (Ardglass)     V  Naomh Eoin (St John's)-
(3)  Eanach Cluana (Annaclone)    V   Seamrogai an Iuir (Shamrocks)-
(4)  Cros Darach ( Darragh Cross)   V  Ait ti Chathaill (Atticall)-
(5)  Breadach (Bredagh)    V   Tulach Lis (Tullylish )-
(6)  Dun Droma (Dundrum)     V Ceathru  Aodha Dhuibh (Carryduff)- 
(7)  Droim Gath (Drumgath)    V  Naomh  Padraig (Saul). 
( Cill Cleithe ( Kilclief)    V    Glasdromainn (Glasdrumman)
JUNIOR  FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP    Preliminary Round
(a)   Breachtain (Bright)   V  Baile Choinnleora (Ballykinlar)
(b)   Achadh Dearg (Aghaderg)    V 
(c)   Droim Bearach (Dromara)  V  Naomh Eoin Bosco (St John Bosco) 



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#13
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 15, 2010, 11:51:43 AM
Having seen most ot the games on tv last weekend and including some club games I think I'm in agreement with "Benny Coolter" the games are generally rubbish and defence orientated. Why should we pay exorbitant price to Ulster championship matches when the players themselves wouldn't? :o. Wonder will our Countyboard see a bit of sense come champ'ship time and consider reducing the prices in these tough financial times as gates seem to be falling rapidly bar 35k+ at Kerry /Cork?
#14
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 26, 2010, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: T O Hare on May 26, 2010, 01:35:59 AM
Down Minor Football "A" Championship on Tuesday 1st June at 7-30



Round One(Outstanding games)

Noamh Colmans v Caislean Ruairi (E McCarthy), Baile Cholmain v Noamh Mhuire (B Rice)



Minor "A" Championship Round Two on Tuesday 1st June at 7-30pm
   
   

A
Noamh Eoin
   
v
Ath Bhrian
   
   
   

B
Caislean an Mhuillin
   
v
Rinn Mhic Giolla Rua
   
   
   

C
Cill Darach
   
v
Seamrogai an Iuir
   
   
   

D
Boireann
   
v
An Ghlenn
   
   
   

E
Sabhall
   
v
Noamh Colmans/Caislean Ruairi
   
   
OFF

F
Cill Chua
   
v
Cluain Diamh
   
   
   

G
Ait Ti Chathail
   
v
Naomh MhuireBaile Cholmain
   
   
OFF

H
Rgu Dun Padriag
   
v
Ceathru Aodh Dhuibh
   
   
   




Minor "B" Championship Round One on Tuesday 1st June at 7-30pm
   
   

A
St Pol
   
v
Noamh Eoin Bosco
   
   
   

Minor "B" Championship Round Two on Tuesday 1st June at 7-30pm
   
   

A
A
   
V
Droichead Mhaigh Eo
   
   
OFF

B
Clan na Banna
   
v
Noamh Seosamh
   
   
   

C
Baile Ui Mhartian
   
v
An Riocht
   
   
   

D
Droim Gath
   
v
Bredach
   
   
   

E
Naomh MhuireBaile Cholmain
   
v
Droim an Easa
   
   
OFF

F
Anna Derg
   
v
Loch an Oilean
   
   
   

G
An Cloch Fhada
   
v
Ard Ghlais
   
   
   

H
Noamh Colmans/Caislean Ruairi
   
v
Sabhall (Na Padriag)
   
   
OFF



For what its worth i'll go for the underlined teams and why are so many off?
#15
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 26, 2010, 02:05:28 PM
Minor championship draw looks good, with some nice match ups in the A section. Whats the predictions fellas?