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Will Richie Power be fit for this game?

Yeah no problem with Richie. We'll probably line out the same as the last day other then TJ Reid for the suspended Richie Hogan.

Its going to be a real battle on  August 19th, will make some of these olympic events seem like tiddley winks

To put it bluntly I hope Tipp beat them out the gate. Hurling's second biggest hurling rivalry? Really?

We certainly won't be beaten out any gate anyway that's for sure.

Training going well , good spirit in the camp, I'd say we'll edge it by about 4 points if Fennelly & Rice do the business in midfield.

He also said during the tour that they're now considering buying the houses behind Hill 16 and making it all seater (bringing the capacity to 96k approx) and are even considering putting a roof on the stadium.

The stadium badly needs to be properly finished & with the decline in property pricess, whether by accident or design, it looks like  a master stroke to have held off until now.
Bring it on.

i no in a lot of predominantly football counties there are always people shouting about the lack of time/money/interest given to hurling. just wondering does any of this happen as far as football is concerned in kilkenny? if what is written here is true then they probably wouldnt be that bad at the big ball game. i heard that when they went to play antrim this year in the tommy murphy they only had one sub, thats a bit of a joke. however i was also told that the county board gives them no support and they were more or less just a bunch of lads who had got togeather themselves to fulfill the fixture. is there any will to develop football within the county?

Here's something I posted in areply to a sinilar question here after the drawn game back in June which still more or less stands despite dates....

The actual under age part of KK football does actually take place.

By way of example tomorrow night(Thursday) at 7pm the under-14 football squad meet again at St James Park in the city.

To cater for Southern players a bus is provided to collect Southern based players at places like Piltown - Mullinavat - Ballyhale and Thomastown.

The better players tend to be hurlers also, at least with their clubs and in hurling we always cast the net as wide as possible to make sure no one slips through.

Therefore the South & Northern hurling squads at under 14,15,16 and 17 will have a look at 50 or so players in each area. Invariably these would also have dabbled with football.

Bring under age club hurling into the equation and fellas hoping to make club minor hurling teams from 16 and under 21 and adult hurling teams from 18 tend to focus on the club and prospect of wearing an adult club & later a KK jersey in hurling. The clubs play a main part as they want to see them at training for the adult hurling team and I'm afraid I can't see this attitude changing any time soon.

Each club would have maybe one or two personal half interested in the big ball code but in the main Gaelic is looked at as part of what must be endured to prepare for the club hurling season which is massive in KK at al grades.

are there many of the kilkenny hurlers that play club football?

Yes, almost all would play gaelic & generally the better hurlers tend to be the better club footballers also.
A couple of years back Peter Barry & Brian McEvoy skipped a Railway Cup weekend in Italy to compete in the KK county Final.
Shock horror in other counties if they didn't maybe but in KK thi was a statement of intent for the James Stephens football side.

MULLINAVAT 3-07 GLENMORE 0-11

It's six days later, 300 supporters instead of 82,127, the six o clock bells at Mooncoin church as background music rather than the Artane boys band, but for Willie O'Dwyer, Michael Murphy and Richie Mullally it was another Final in the career of GAA players.
Yes it must have been as different as the Tramore Donkey Derby is to its Epsom horse racing equivalent as Mullinavat won a first ever Kilkenny County Senior Football Final with a 3-07 to 0-11 victory over a Glenmore side joint top of the football Roll of Honour with 19 titles.
Having lost last years Final Mullinavat had actually prepared well for the traditional Gaelic Football season in Kilkenny of January to April and still retained enough knowledge to beat the near neighbours in what was a very poor standard of football.
The game appeared to be continuosly stalled by fussy refereeing by Tyrone native referee Paul Devlin with technical fouls the order of the day. But then again maybe the Tyrone man would be more familiar with Gaelic rules than the couple of hundred natives still semi hangover from the hurling activities of the previous weekend!

Jamie Fennelly, son of dual All ireland hurling captain Liam, put Mullinavat ahead before Paul Phelan equalised from a free for the Glens men.
A point from a midfielder put the Glen boys ahead as even in Kilkenny football the roving trend of Dublin's seventies star Bobby Doyle has finally caught on in the county.
Mullinavat hurling underdog of TG4 fame Andrew McGovern put the Vat men level from a free.
Two Glenmore scores from the multi coloured Paul Phelan from a free and full forward Michael Phelan put Glenmore four-two ahead. I say multi coloured as casual dress applied to Glenmore in contrast to Mullinavat who sported new jerseys and socks for the occasion.
Jamie Fennelly reduced the margin to one for Mullinavat before Paul Phelan, a New Ross Celtic soccer player of ability apparently, chipped over another Glenmore free. It was now 0-05 to 0-03 for Glenmore but shortly afterwards, probably against the run of play Mullinavat got a goal.
Nicholas Anthony was the goal scorer finishing off a well worked move.
If Glenmore had a colourful free taker Mullinavat had a Johnny Wilkinson type in McGovern who looks at the post and ball five or six times before contact. Most of the time it worked however and again did shortly afterwards with his second pointed free.
The game slid more towards Mullinavat with a second goal within a further couple of minutes.
A ball came down off the post and Tony Duggan was on hand to slot home, now 2-04 to 0-05.
Before the break Paul Phelan has two more pointed frees leaving the interval score, Mullinavat 2-04 Glenmore 0-07.

A thriller this was not and just six points were recorded in the first 25 minutes of the new half.
Three points from frees by Phelan for Glenmore countered by three further frees by McGovern for Mullinavat.
There was always a chance of an equalising goal although at this stage the man from the football board passed the stand with a torn brown paper bag containing the county trophy so at least he must have expected Mullinavat to hold out.
A further free by Phelan on 28 minutes reduced the margin to two, Glenmore behind 0-11 to 3-07 but before the finish the man who got the games first score also got its last.
Jamie Fennelly was fouled in the square and he converted the penalty himself to seal a Mullinavat victory 3-07 to 0-11 .
It mattereed to Mullinavat, manager Paul Whelan having already led Kilkenny girls to a junior football All ireland Final in a forthnight, has again shown the way in Kilkenny football.
No time to celebrate though as the Mullinavat clubs hard won senior hurling status can be retained with a victory over Dunnamagin next weekend.
Although this was important, a first senior football title for the club, well given a choice of this or that I think I know which would be deemed more important to the club when they look back on 2007? I think!

Fans heading to the All Ireland Hurling Final will be the first to use LAMINATED tickets to get into Croke Park.
The fancy new tickets feature hurlers in aerial tussles and gold holograms of a hurley and a sliotair.
But most fans won't care what they look like - once they secure one.
KK's initial allocation is believed to me 7,000 and Limerick's first batch was 10,000.
Both competing counties can expect further allocations ahead of Sunday week's final.

(from today's Sun, not page 3 but page 9)

Do many on the site attend under age club gamesi n their county, pre minor I mean btw?
Should the county boards charge admission to such under 12,14 & 16 matches?
Was at a Waterford  under age football final in Walsh Park this week, under 16 and they charged an admission fee of 5 Euro's.
The policy in Waterford has always been to charge, was 3 Euro on 2004, last year 4 & now a fiver.
This is not the case in KK which I would be equally familiar with, or at least wasn't the last time I was at a final out that way last September, so just wonder what the views are here?
Is this type of charge justified or should as many family members as possible be encouraged to go to kids games?

Kilkenny again.

Was hoping for Waterford if for no other reason than I'm sick of playing Kilkenny. Playing Waterford would at least have been a novel pairing.

Didn't galway play WD last year in the c'ship at Walsh Park? and lost?

Also isn't it true to say they haven't beaten WD in the c'ship in something like 10 attempts.

Maybe yere lucky to be getting KK rather than WD :-)

Kilkenny's thinly-veiled disdain for football is an absolute disgrace. If my own county and others like it can give hurling the respect it deserves by fielding underage sides and a senior team as well in league and championship,

This post is incorrect however.  The actual under age part of KK football does actually take place.

By way of example tomorrow night(Thursday) at 7pm the under-14 football squad meet again at St James Park in the city.

To cater for Southern players a bus is provided to collect Southern based players at places like Piltown - Mullinavat - Ballyhale and Thomastown.

The better players tend to be hurlers also, at least with their clubs and in hurling we always cast the net as wide as possible to make sure no one slips through.

Therefore the South & Northern hurling squads at under 14,15,16 and 17 will have a look at 50 or so players in each area. Invariably these would also have dabbled with football.

Bring under age club hurling into the equation and fellas hoping to make club minor hurling teams from 16 and under 21 and adult hurling teams from 18 tend to focus on the club and prospect of wearing an adult club & later a KK jersey in hurling. The clubs play a main part as they want to see them at training for the adult hurling team and I'm afraid I can't see this attitude changing any time soon.

Each club would have maybe one or two personal half interested in the big ball code but in the main Gaelic is looked at as part of what must be endured to prepare for the club hurling season which is massive in KK at al grades.

If they are not interested who reqally cares . hurley is close enough to extintion with out trying to force the on place where it is essential to dilute the playing base. Im only amazed 500 people turned up .was there any ambiguity over wheter it was camogie or football.
Doubt if the Mayo SHC final would get 500 if it was held on its own

We had the National feile na gael finals on earlier so that kept a few about and the fact that the senior final was a local derby with two teams from the South of the county and the intermediate final had the city club James Stephen's involved helped.
The most amazing site of the evening was the American couple in the stand who recorded the proceedings on a camcorder and were overheard asking if any of the participants were on "sports scholarships like back home in the states."
By way of contrast the 2005 final was preceded by the local under 14 KK feile na gael hurling final between Dicksboro and O'Loughlins. That day only 200 stayed of the seven or eight hundred their earlier stayed for the under age hurling contest so local football in KK is on an upward spiral :-)

There was commitment, there was pride shown in the jersey by all four sides and there was at least 500 people interested enough to attend Nowlan Park to witness.
yes, it was county football final day in Kilkenny but as well as the "haves" there was of course the "have nots"..
There was no match programme, not even a team sheet.
There was no public address system in operation and it took 15 minutes of the intermediate final before someone decided it would be a good idea to switch on at least one of the ground's two scoreboards.
A ball landed in the old stand at one stage and to the surprise of some this was not regarded as a UFO arriving at county headquarters.
Yes, Kilkenny football just about existed to almost complete the 2007 championship. However the senior final ended in a draw and with one of the participants, Glenmore already having an outstanding Intermediate hurling fixture with Danesfort to slot in as well, its probably a case of don't expect a replay any time soon.

To the games.
INTERMEDIATE
The Village return to the senior grade, one they actualy won a s recently as 2003, with a deserved 2-10 to 0-08 victory versus Mooncoin in the opening game.
At half-time the Village led 1-03 to 0-05 the goal having been scored from close range by Eoin Larkin in the opening quarter.
David McCormack was the free taker for the Village although on several occasions in both halves the right corner back came the whole length of the pitch to take frees. Anyway David McCormack scored two points while this number two defender Joe ? got one point.
(*no match programme remember*)
The Village took over in the second half after Mooncoin had got two of the first three scores and when an unanswered 1-05 was registered there was only going to be one winner. The second goal was the first of these scores, scored by the centre forward after good work by Eoin Larkin and veteran Liam "chuck" O'Connor.
Soon afterwards there was a fine individual break upfield by Jackie Tyrell for a fine score. In my opinion Jackie was the best, most athletic and most natural gaelic player of the 70 plus participants who took part in the two games.
A fine speech by the Village captain, the fullback who praised coach Adrian Finan, how proud he was, dedicate dthe win to his late father & all involved in football with the famous city club.

SENIOR
Glenmore have 19 titles while Mullinavat were going for a first ever having lost last years final to Erins Own Castlecomer.
Horror of horrors for the KK fixtures commitee it ended in a draw , Glenmore 1-06 to Mullinavat's 0-09
Mullinavat started with two pointed frees by TG4 hurling underdog Andrew McGovern while at the other end Glenmore were guilty of wayward shooting.
By the interval Mullinavat led 0-06 to 0-03 with both sides showing a fear of shooting from distance.
The Vat men got the first score of the new half also but a Glenmore point and then a punched goal had them all square, 1-04 to 0-07.
Two further points each in the final quarter and it was only when the man from the football board moved to take away the cup for another day that people realised there was not to be extra time.(*no P.A.system remember*)
Probably a case of roll on November for the replay

RIP Eamon.
Will always be remembered for 1993 & indeed his brave battle against cancer in recent times.
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

Dont beleive there was onlyy 22,000 at the match. Seemed like easily over 30k to me

The proper attendance figure was probably 32,000.
Two stands almost fulll & one terrace in operation with at least 5,000 on it.

From what ive read about the governments grant system, Inter county players will be getting  €2,500 (£1700) a year. which isnt exactly spoiling them is it. But its something!!

If this is as well as current inter county expenses, with nothing for those at lesser levels, its certainly the start of something that may well prove impossible to stop.
Would be totaly against it.