Anybody know why there are no hill tickets for Sunday's game? I know I would much prefer to purchase a cheaper terrace ticket with a half decent view of the game than a dearer ticket at the back of the upper Canal tier. Unless it was front of the Hogan or Cusack upper tier I'd definitely go with the Hill. I also think full lower tiers and a full hill would make for a much better atmosphere than full lower tiers and half empty upper tiers.
What could the reason for this be? Is it the GAA being greedy? Is it an attempt to reduce Steward numbers and costs? What the hell is going on????
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If that is the only reasoning it's an absolute f**king disgrace...
I presume it is an attempt to reduce stewarding costs, hassle with residents etc.
However given that the ground will be fairly full on Sunday I think the Hill should be opened.
A gesture of respect for the passing of the Dublin Gaelic football team?
Quote from: tyssam5 on August 26, 2008, 10:53:25 PM
A gesture of respect for the passing of the Dublin Gaelic football team?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No rational reason, just another stupid decision
Its obviously a money thing.
I had initially assumed that it was expected that all these tickets would be hoovered up by the counties.
its a sad state of affairs when a double bill of All ireland semi-finals cannot sell out.
this is ridiculous, it's high time that some decisions were taken out of mckenna et al's hands - how can he justify making people pay an extra €20 to see a game? If it's not going to be sold out why don't they offer the cheaper tickets in another section of the ground? There's a sickening lack of empathy with supporters at present, additionally, I would have thought that sunday would see approx 60K there?
An empty hill also takes away from the atmosphere within the ground and looks odd on TV. You don't have this problem if there is even a small crowd on the hill.
Given the credit crunch and general depression around in all sectors, would it not have been sensible to open up the hill rather than sell tickets that are in the clouds ??? Row Z in the Davin stand isn't a great place to watch a match from - the hill is a great place to be -
So € 45 for a bad seat - but €25 for a good place in the hill ?????
Doesn't mak sense to anyone other than the accountants !
2 senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one. If ye cant fill the stadium even then, ye have no place demanding the GAA spend more money opening sections of the ground that arent needed lads.
As a neutral I would be tempted to go for €25 but not for €45. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 01:51:07 PM
2 senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one. If ye cant fill the stadium even then, ye have no place demanding the GAA spend more money opening sections of the ground that arent needed lads.
Totally agree. The Dubs deserve to still be there cause they can fill the stadium!!
Quote from: Star Spangler on August 27, 2008, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 01:51:07 PM
2 senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one. If ye cant fill the stadium even then, ye have no place demanding the GAA spend more money opening sections of the ground that arent needed lads.
Totally agree. The Dubs deserve to still be there cause they can fill the stadium!!
No they dont, and I didnt say anything of the sort. All the teams playing on sunday are there 100% on merit. But it doesnt make sense to spend money to open a section of the ground that isnt needed.
then why not shut the Canal End, and free up the cheaper tickets on the Hill. Those who want the stands could go to the Cusack or Hogan.
Disgraceful. Has anyone been called to account for their moneygrabbing antics? Why are the media not making an issue of this - it's a penalty kick for the 'bogball' brigade. Infuriating,
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2008, 02:58:50 PM
then why not shut the Canal End, and free up the cheaper tickets on the Hill. Those who want the stands could go to the Cusack or Hogan.
Looking at the recent games not involving the Dubs, even when the hill was opened it was clear it was the least popular place for fans. That said, they could make the effort to bring the price down as there seems to be such a lack of interest in these games.
The big question should be why there is 2 all ireland senior and one minor semi finals together and they cant even fill 3/4 of the ground.
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2008, 02:58:50 PM
then why not shut the Canal End, and free up the cheaper tickets on the Hill. Those who want the stands could go to the Cusack or Hogan.
Looking at the recent games not involving the Dubs, even when the hill was opened it was clear it was the least popular place for fans. That said, they could make the effort to bring the price down as there seems to be such a lack of interest in these games.
The big question should be why there is 2 all ireland senior and one minor semi finals together and they cant even fill 3/4 of the ground.
I'd say price is a significant factor to be honest. I'm not going to get into why the Cork, Kerry, Tyrone and Wexford lads won't travel in huge numbers, apparently, but for neutrals, the price is a factor. I've been to more hurling than football this year, and €20 or €15 onto the terrace at Semple Stadium was great value, as an example.
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: Star Spangler on August 27, 2008, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 01:51:07 PM
2 senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one. If ye cant fill the stadium even then, ye have no place demanding the GAA spend more money opening sections of the ground that arent needed lads.
Totally agree. The Dubs deserve to still be there cause they can fill the stadium!!
No they dont, and I didnt say anything of the sort. All the teams playing on sunday are there 100% on merit. But it doesnt make sense to spend money to open a section of the ground that isnt needed.
How much is the spend? At least one poster has said he would go but at a min of €45 he's not going to bother, how many more people feel this way? Maybe the cost of opening the hill would be covered by people who otherwise wouldn't bother going. I have stood on the hill for many games that have been far from sold out, simply because it has been so much cheaper.
The other point I raised was that if it's simply to reduce costs, they should still have a section of the ground allocated for the 10-16K specatators who could otherwise go to the hill at the reduce rates that the hill normally commands - say upper cusack or somewhere, at least that way those cynics amongst us wouldn't have ammo to fire at them.
I understand that AZ, but with 3 games of this stature, why do they need neutrals? Surely these counties have enough fans between them to fill Croke park?
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 03:35:54 PM
I understand that AZ, but with 3 games of this stature, why do they need neutrals? Surely these counties have enough fans between them to fill Croke park?
With all due respect, that's an entirely different topic. The fact is that it won't be full, so why not give people the option of standing for cheaper?
Quote from: bennydorano on August 27, 2008, 03:06:15 PM
Disgraceful. Has anyone been called to account for their moneygrabbing antics? Why are the media not making an issue of this - it's a penalty kick for the 'bogball' brigade. Infuriating,
If you want to see thing pay € 45 seems to the answer.
Why are tickets in 306 middle of the field the same price as row z in 721 ???
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2008, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 27, 2008, 03:35:54 PM
I understand that AZ, but with 3 games of this stature, why do they need neutrals? Surely these counties have enough fans between them to fill Croke park?
With all due respect, that's an entirely different topic. The fact is that it won't be full, so why not give people the option of standing for cheaper?
Money. See, we've come full circle ;)
No we haven't. Why not close the Canal End, and use the stewards there to 'police' the Hill?
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2008, 03:52:44 PM
No we haven't. Why not close the Canal End, and use the stewards there to 'police' the Hill?
I dont know ???
Maybe the hill, being a terrace, needs more "policing", I've no idea.
Open the hill end and close the Canal they you'd have the whiners in here crying about having to stand for 6 hours ! The GAA can't win it would seem
Quote from: Gnevin on August 27, 2008, 05:40:19 PM
Open the hill end and close the Canal they you'd have the whiners in here crying about having to stand for 6 hours ! The GAA can't win it would seem
Obviously a spelling mistake Gnevin.
You meant to write
winners.
I imagine that if the Hill is not in use then they don't have to close off some of the streets on the Summerhill end with a saving of Garda time etc. The Davin stand is entered from Jones Rd which is closed off in any case.
One reason may be that internal stewarding on the Hogan, Cusack and Davin Stands are done by volunteers while the Hill is stewarded mainly by Frontline Security
Quote from: northsideboy on August 27, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
One reason may be that internal stewarding on the Hogan, Cusack and Davin Stands are done by volunteers while the Hill is stewarded mainly by Frontline Security
in keeping with holiness' bullshit answers, the hill doesn't have to have professional security on it this time ;)
Quote from: armaghniac on August 27, 2008, 07:30:26 PM
I imagine that if the Hill is not in use then they don't have to close off some of the streets on the Summerhill end with a saving of Garda time etc. The Davin stand is entered from Jones Rd which is closed off in any case.
A lot of people would still approach the Cusack from Summerhill and Cloniffe - road would still have to be closed I'd imagine
There do seem to be a fair few apologists for something which is nothing short of ripping off GAA supporters, there is no excuse for it. If the hill was opened on Sunday the GAA would probably make €200k instead of €215k(sample figures), surely the association could take that hit, this is our own support not the soccer boys or egg chasers; there has to be a better balance between moneymaking and the ethos of the association.
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 09:35:31 AM
There do seem to be a fair few apologists for something which is nothing short of ripping off GAA supporters, there is no excuse for it. If the hill was opened on Sunday the GAA would probably make €200k instead of €215k(sample figures), surely the association could take that hit, this is our own support not the soccer boys or egg chasers; there has to be a better balance between moneymaking and the ethos of the association.
Surely you agree the majority of people like to sit?
Surely you also agree that if the attendance is below 70,000 on Sunday all the tickets available were not taken?
Surely you would also agree the atmosphere last week was greatly improved by closing sections of the ground and condensing the crowd ?
Thus the GAA took the decision to open the section of the ground which would be most peoples first choice .
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
It's all very well suggesting that it should be a sell out, but i'd imagine taking a family to Croker isn't easy for some people. 3 kids and you're into 200 euro before you look at petrol, food, programmes at 4 euros a pop. not alot of families have 300 euro kicking about these days. When you look at the number of qualifiers too it's no wonder people stay away.
It's obvious to us all that the GAA see the qualifiers and us as cash cows, and they're gonna milk every drop
Ticketmaster are selling tickets on the Hill for €30. What's the problem?
http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004056A83157DE?artistid=944137&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004056A83157DE?artistid=944137&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229)
A victory for GAABOARD.COM !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;D
QuoteIt's obvious to us all that the GAA see the qualifiers and us as cash cows,
So the GAA wish to raise revenue by charging into games, how strange.
Yous are in an all Ireland semi final, which many counties would love to be, yet 4 teams together cannot raise the same crowd as Armagh v Donegal did, one of the smaller counties versus one that is also far from Dublin.
Quote from: armaghniac on August 28, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
QuoteIt's obvious to us all that the GAA see the qualifiers and us as cash cows,
So the GAA wish to raise revenue by charging into games, how strange.
Yous are in an all Ireland semi final, which many counties would love to be, yet 4 teams together cannot raise the same crowd as Armagh v Donegal did, one of the smaller counties versus one that is also far from Dublin.
Ok Stevie from Killeavy :P
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
Well the hill is opened now so I guess your maximising profit argument is out the window now or are they still maximising profit?
Quote from: Gnevin on August 28, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
Well the hill is opened now so I guess your maximising profit argument is out the window now or are they still maximising profit?
MORE profit now - the other tickets must be sold ! ;) :D
Quote from: Gnevin on August 28, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
Well the hill is opened now so I guess your maximising profit argument is out the window now or are they still maximising profit?
I wish I could say 'credit where credit's due', but why should there be credit given for doing something that should be done as par for the course?
Quote from: Gnevin on August 28, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
Well the hill is opened now so I guess your maximising profit argument is out the window now or are they still maximising profit?
Ticketmaster's allocation are obviously sold gnevin, if they weren't why would they have opened the hill?? The point is that people should have been able to buy tickets for whichever part of the ground they chose, when they wanted.
Quote4 teams together cannot raise the same crowd as Armagh v Donegal
Ach sure when the wee diddy teams like Armagh get as far as a semi-final there's always a big hullaballoo!
Ticket Information – Sunday 31 August
The GAA has confirmed that a limited number of stand tickets are available for next Sunday's Croke Park triple header.
It has also been decided that because of the demand for tickets that Dineen Hill 16 will be open.
Tickets can be purchased from the participating counties, on www.gaa.ie, from the GAA ticket office on 01/8658657 or from Ticketmaster outlets nationwide, and subject to availability from outlets around the ground on Sunday.
The GAA Ticket Office on North Circular Road (opposite Gill's Pub) will be open on Friday, August 29th from 10 am to 6 pm and on Saturday, August 30th from 10 am to 4 pm.
Admission Prices are as follows:
Stand €45
Stand Juvenile (Designated sections of Davin and Cusack Stands) €5 (Juveniles must be accompanied by an adult)
Senior Citizens/Students (with I.D.) (Davin and Cusack Stands only) €20
(Must purchase full price ticket – refund available at Block D turnstiles to rear of Cusack Stand prior to entry)
Dineen Hill 16 €30
Wheelchair and Attendant Passes €45
Group Passes €3 per juvenile, 1 adult per 10 juveniles free of charge
The action gets underway with the ESB GAA Football All Ireland Minor Championship semi final between Tyrone and Meath at 12.15 pm followed by the GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship semi final replay between Cork and Kerry at 2.00 pm and finally the GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship semi final at 4.00 pm between Tyrone and Wexford.
The following outlets will be open from 10.30 am on the day of the games (subject to ticket availability):
§ GAA Ticket Office, 526 North Circular Rd (opposite Gill's Pub)
§ ticket kiosk at Ballybough [under the railway bridge]
§ ticket kiosk at Dorset St [outside Martin's Auctioneers]
§ ticket kiosk at Bishop's Palace
How many does the Hill hold ?
Can we now assume there'll be 70+ in Croker on Sunday ?
The stand tickets must be well gone by now ?
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on August 28, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM
Moot points as the option of cheaper entrance fees should be there - end of story. Surely you agree that this is a decision taken in regards to money and little else? Is there not more to the association than maximising profit?
Well the hill is opened now so I guess your maximising profit argument is out the window now or are they still maximising profit?
I wish I could say 'credit where credit's due', but why should there be credit given for doing something that should be done as par for the course?
Spot on.
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It has also been decided that because of the demand for tickets that Dineen Hill 16 will be open
Little altruism in the opening of the hill then, purely financial.
Not much use to those who have already grudgingly forked out 45 Euro for the only available tickets before today. This is a real scandal, and deserves an e-mail campaign to bombard gaa.ie with protests.
Quote from: Model Hammer on August 28, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
Not much use to those who have already grudgingly forked out 45 Euro for the only available tickets before today. This is a real scandal, and deserves an e-mail campaign to bombard gaa.ie with protests.
And how do you think these emails might be received ?
No one is going to come on here and apologise now are they ?
Incidentally I think euro45 is great value for two senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one.
And dont ye wexford lads be giving out, ye've had years to save for this year ;)
As a Tyrone supporter Im just glad to be able to go and watch our minors and seniors play in the All Ireland Semi's. €45 might be dear enough but with 2 All Ireland semi's thrown in its not bad value. Considering many Tyrone "fans" havent been to a game all year they should be able to afford it. I take it those who said earlier that they would have went if the cheaper tickets were available are now going?
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on August 28, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
Considering many Tyrone "fans" havent been to a game all year they should be able to afford it.
That really does my head in. This will be the third match I get to this year, and I would have been to them all if circumstances had been different, but when it comes to the final I know, like in the previous 2 times, I'll not be able to get a ticket while others who haven't went the entire year are able to.
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 28, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Incidentally I think euro45 is great value for two senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one.
I would agree there your holiness, bargain of the year I'd say.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 28, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Incidentally I think euro45 is great value for two senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one.
I would agree there your holiness, bargain of the year I'd say.
Yeah but €30 to watch it from the hill is great value too, that option should always be there.
Quote from: bennydorano on August 29, 2008, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 28, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on August 28, 2008, 05:14:48 PM
Incidentally I think euro45 is great value for two senior all ireland semi finals and a minor one.
I would agree there your holiness, bargain of the year I'd say.
Yeah but €30 to watch it from the hill is great value too, that option should always be there.
Cheap bastard ;)